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Labour= tax tax tax......and tax again
Labour= tax tax tax......and tax again
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Can't say I'm surprised by this.
The Greens have always been good at, "do as we say, not as we do". Hypocritical watermelons. Graeme Wood's has more dollars than sense. Greens expect backlash after record donation - ABC News 08/01/11 The Greens are continuing to campaign for political donations from individuals to be capped at $1,000, despite Wotif founder Graeme Wood's $1.6 million donation before the last federal election. "While the big parties block [us], the Greens are going to continue to get a disproportionate increase in funding," he said. "Maybe it will be that factor which will get one or other of the big parties to bring in restrictions on political donations." Senator Brown says Mr Wood's donation was used for television advertising in the final weeks before the election and contributed to the party's record vote and first House of Representatives gain. "The opponents will hate it," he said. Senator Brown says he will be "forever grateful" for the donation but Mr Wood will not get any special treatment. The previous highest donation was made by the conservative British MP Lord Michael Ashcroft to the Liberals in the 2004 campaign. The total amount of donations to the Greens during the election campaign will be revealed next week, while donations to the major political parties will not be revealed for another year. |
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no way this thread deserves to die especially with the carbon tax scam another hit to struggling families
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When you've got a government thats accuring $100 million of debt each and everyday....you've got to find away to achieve this fanciful political goal of, "a surplus in 2013".
 The answer is - the Labor way - tax the living sh1t out of the public. |
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1600th Post
Woohoo!  What a thread |
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Happy 1600th!!!!!!!!!!
 2000+++ here we come. This thread will die when labors tax hikes die. Meaning it will run until Liberal Blue shines brightly over the nation again,because labors tax increases will never stop. |
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Labour and Gillard already flagging "tough choices to make"
This thread will be like Jason from Fri 13 series - just won't die |
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I love this thread, its a ripper.
Who said the forum was fkd?  1600 posts and still going strong and the theme remains the same:  |
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Jez, where can I get that sticker?
Hell I''ll put up a bill board in my front yard. There needs to be mass distrubution asap. |
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NSW State Government adds brand new taxes worth close to $1 billion during flooding
Andrew Clennell State Political Editor From: The Daily Telegraph January 15, 2011 THE State Government has sneaked in brand new taxes worth close to $1 billion, with the announcement hidden amid coverage of Queensland's floods. Planning Minister Tony Kelly chose late Thursday night to announce new infrastructure levies for developers in the Hunter and Illawarra, worth thousands of dollars for each property. The levy will cost $6180 per lot/dwelling - or about $73,219 per hectare - in the Illawarra. In the Lower Hunter, a state infrastructure charge of $8780 per lot/dwelling - or $105,341 per hectare - will be introduced. The new charges aim to raise $685 million for infrastructure in the Lower Hunter in the next 25 years and $165 million over 40 years for the Illawarra. The Lower Hunter charge will affect Lake Macquarie, Cessnock, Maitland, Newcastle and Port Stephens local government areas. The announcement follows the backlash Mr Kelly copped after introducing a new $90 million "ad valorem" tax on properties worth more than $500,000 under the cover of last year's federal budget, which meant home buyers and property developers paid upwards of $200 on each purchase. "This is a dirty, destructive big new tax which will absolutely kill new housing in the Illawarra and Hunter," Opposition planning spokesman Brad Hazzard said. "Labor's track record has been [introducing] levies that don't produce new housing. They do the exact opposite. When are they going to wake up?" A spokesman for Opposition Leader Barry O'Farrell would not commit to overturning the taxes in office, however he said he would "look at it". The state infrastructure charges are on top of Section 94 charges levied by local government worth about $30,000 per lot. A spokesman for Mr Kelly said the new charges replaced a system whereby developers were forced to negotiate infrastructure charges with government. "The new scheme will cut red tape and provide greater certainty for land owners bringing new housing stock online [being held up while site by site infrastructure arrangements are negotiated]. This saves developers time and money getting new residential developments up and running." |
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more taxes in nsw, criminal activities by KK + co in the power sell off.Carbon tax coming, flood taxes coming.
Foreign minister 07 dudd refuses foreign countries offers of millions of $$$ for flood victims. Labor= tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax and idiotic decisions. |
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another reason this thread will live on.........well done mrben
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A spokesman for Opposition Leader Barry O'Farrell would not commit to overturning the taxes in office, however he said he would "look at it".
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Laugh while you can AFL.
Change is coming. The blue bloods are coming home to roost in NSW. |
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Get ready- the julia solution to the floods- ANOTHER TAX!!!!!
How about re directing spending instead.?????? Dont mistake not wanting another tax for not caring. The solution to everything just cannot be put another tax on. Dont give me the rubbish argument that johhy howard did it.Total tax paid in those days was substantailly lower than today.Taxes under labor as a %%%% of gdp and household in come has gone skyward under labor. Add that to the astronomical increase in living costs and now higher interests rates. We are becoming a nation of slaves to the labor tax masters. |
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100% correct and whats more womble wont even come onto this thread he hates so much because he loves paying tax and wont use this thread anymore
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There's $15 billion of unspent stimulus money.
Sitting there ready for Labor to waste. Re-direct it to the Queensland rebuilding. I cannot believe the blatant cash grab this is from Labor under the guise of the Queensland floods. This is about a political promise to have the budget in the black by 2013. This thread continues to ring true. Labor = Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax and Tax again. |
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Let's analyse the upcoming scenario of proposals:
Mining Tax Electricity Tax/Carbon Tax Flood Tax General CPI rises Interest rate rises/to counter Inflation The effect on people is going to be immense Add the three proposed taxes in and honestly...wtf. The economic impact on the householder is going to be immense. It really is a inverse situation at the moment ... I wish Turnbull and Tanner were running the show ...sanity may prevail  |
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It's just a mess.
Cost of living pressures is something Labor don't seem to understand. Stimulus worked, albeit with a bucketload of waste involved, however to suggest our economy is bulletproof is foolish. As you say AP. Mining tax, carbon tax, now a flood tax. Families are struggling. Will the economy struggle? A dangerous gamble from Gillard and Swan. And as is the Labor way - WE'LL pay for it. |
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Happy Australia everyone.
This is probably a sad day for people like wombleoz - those who hate patriotism. But I bloody love it. What a great country to live in. The lucky country. And to those elitists who have decided to drudge up the flag debate, I say, p1ss off - hands off our flag. It's great the way it is. |
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Thought I'd spark up a new debate on this fantastic thread.
Who is in favour of nuclear energy? I certainly am. I thought I'd paste in the following opinion piece from Josh Frydenberg. Yes, his the Liberal member for Kooyong, but I think he raises a great point about the benefits and clean energy that is provided by Nuclear power - its carbon neutral. This debate crosses political divides. Many within Labor and Liberal ranks support nuclear power - we just need to start the discussion - a real discussion. Nuclear option our safest bet Josh Frydenberg From: The Australian January 26, 2011 JULIA Gillard's weakened leadership needs a power surge. No one knows this better than her Minister for Energy and Resources, Martin Ferguson. Ferguson, an outspoken proponent of nuclear energy, is in Washington this week for talks with US Energy Secretary Steven Chu. A Nobel laureate in physics, Chu supports America's expanding nuclear program, saying it "is going to be an important part of our energy mix." For Chu and many others, nuclear power is critical to a more sustainable energy and environmental future. If our Prime Minister is to stay true to her promise and make 2011 the year of "delivery and decision", she needs to take the lead and initiate a comprehensive discussion about nuclear power, which happens to be the only carbon-neutral baseload energy source. Failure to do so ignores the informed views of a long list of technical experts, environmentalists and many of Gillard's Labor colleagues. So, why is it time for Australia to have the nuclear debate? And why is it, in the words of former prime minister Bob Hawke, "intellectually unsustainable to rule it out as a possibility"? The answer is threefold. As a leading source of uranium, Australia has a competitive advantage; as a clean form of energy, nuclear power is better for the environment; and as the only advanced economy not embracing it as the answer, it is time we caught up. The facts are compelling. Australia is home to 38 per cent of the world's known recoverable reserves of uranium, and we export uranium to more than 10 countries. As I said in my first speech to parliament last year, Australia is in a curious moral, economic and environmental position where we are prepared to export uranium, but not use it. Today, 31 countries host 440 nuclear reactors, providing two-thirds of the world's people with electricity. More than 55 new reactors are under construction, nearly half of them in China. The European Union generates more than 30 per cent of its energy from nuclear power. The US figure is 20 per cent and rising. In each of these countries the decision to go nuclear was a practical one, cutting across the partisan divide. In Britain, it was Labour prime minister Gordon Brown, not a Tory, who described nuclear power as "a fundamental pre-condition of preparing Britain for a new world". In the US it is Barack Obama, a Democratic President, not his Republican predecessor, who has committed more than $8 billion in federal loan guarantees for the next generation reactors. Only in Australia does entrenched ideological opposition prevail. Only in Australia is the Prime Minister looking back down the time tunnel. But, looking to the future, if Australia is going to be serious about meeting its carbon emission reduction targets, we must contemplate the nuclear option. It is a message the International Energy Agency's executive director Nobuo Tanaka recently carried to Canberra: "If you don't use nuclear, totally renewable energy is very, very expensive, and also it is fragile in terms of its productivity." It is a message that has for a long time resonated in Tanaka's native Japan. With a commitment to cut greenhouse gas emissions from 1990 levels by an ambitious 80 per cent by 2050, Japan plans to build 9 new nuclear reactors by 2019 on top of the 55 already in place. For the leadership in Tokyo nuclear power is a proven winner and indispensable to a greener, cleaner future. While Japan and many of our other regional neighbours including India, Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam and China have already embraced the nuclear concept, Australia can catch up. The pre-eminent voice in the Australian debate, Ziggy Switkowski, chairman of the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation, believes Australia can have its first reactor operating by 2020 and 50 in place by 2050, providing 90 per cent of the nation's energy needs. Such a move would propel us a long way towards meeting our emissions targets by 2050. Developments in reactor technology are also occurring so fast that the construction phase is likely to shrink from 60 to 30 months in coming years. New generation reactors will also be considerably smaller, built underground, and with the potential to be gas cooled, so they would not need to be located close to large sources of water. Incidentally, Australian companies like Worley Parsons are involved in the construction of new reactors as in Egypt, where they are gaining an international reputation for their project management expertise. Huge strides are also being made to dramatically reduce the amount of nuclear waste. Fourth generation reactors will burn most of the fuel, with the surviving waste having a half life a fraction of that produced by today's reactors. Today's reactors are also significantly safer than their predecessors. The explosions at Chernobyl and Three Mile Island were decades ago and since then there have been thousands of reactor hours without incident. A comprehensive and informed debate about a nuclear power industry for Australia is long overdue. It will require our Prime Minister to overcome the ideological bogies of the past and think of the benefits that will accrue to future generations. If Gillard started to listen to Hawke and other senior voices on the Labor side, the pathway ahead for Australia would soon become abundantly clear. |
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The waste is the issue firstly I would say closely followed by security.
Didn't Hawke want to make Australia the world's nuclear waste land ? Only have to cite the recent infractions of coal carriers smashing into Douglas Shoal on the GBR ...bad enough it was coal/oil. Had it of been nuclear waste , well... |
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".. raises a great point about the benefits and clean energy that is provided by Nuclear power - its carbon neutral."
ummmmm - how do they mine the uranium? It may be cleaner than coal fired power stations but carbon neutral it certainly is not. |
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Fair point Stone Bonkers.
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Still think its a debate well over due.
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agree jez and this thread has dropped so up she goes..........................
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Wayne Swan struggles on flood levy figures
Ben Packham From: The Australian February 09, 2011 TREASURER Wayne Swan has been unable to say how many Australians will pay the government's flood levy, sparking opposition claims that he isn't on top of his brief. Taxpayers earning $50,000 or less a year will be exempt from paying the levy, as will victims of the floods and Cyclone Yasi. Under questioning from Coalition treasury spokesman Joe Hockey, Mr Swan could not say how many taxpayers would pay the 0.5 per cent of income levy and how many would be exempt. “I cannot give you a final figure and nor is it realistic to give one,” he told parliament. He said he would provide estimates “later on”. The Treasurer's office later told The Australian Online that about 4.84 million taxpayers earned more than $50,000, with about 185,000 of them expected to be exempt from paying the levy after collecting an Australian government disaster recovery payment. Mr Hockey told The Australian Online said Mr Swan should have been able to recall the figures. “It illustrates he's not up to the job. That's why Julia Gillard has appointed a former Liberal finance minister (John Fahey) to oversee the spending in Queensland,” he said. “That was supposed to be Wayne Swan's job.” The Coalition has seized on Mr Fahey's appointment as head of the government's reconstruction inspectorate, saying it needed a Liberal to make sure there was no waste. |
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A weak government, a weak Prime Minister and a weak Treasurer.
Clearly out of their depth. Bumbling mumbling Wayne was beside himself today, couldn't even provide basic numbers surrounding 2011 first (of many) Labor TAXES. |
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"sh!t happens"
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Another day, another Gillard BACKDOWN.
Tony Abbott slams 'backdown' as Julia Gillard proposes 50-50 hospital deal By Malcolm Farr, National Political Editor From: news.com.au February 11, 2011 JULIA Gillard is offering states a 50/50 split in paying for public hospital cost increases as she strips back the complex funding reforms attempted by her predecessor Kevin Rudd. The Prime Minister has ditched the demand for states to contribute a third of their GST revenue, and dropped the promise that the Government would pay 60 per cent of health care costs. The packaged announced by Ms Gillard in Canberra today, and to be considered by premiers at a meeting on Sunday, is an admission that Mr Rudd's ambitious overhaul has been blocked by wrangling over the GST issue. Opposition Leader Tony Abbott today said Ms Gillard had dumped Mr Rudd's plan and retreated on Labor's original plans. "This is the biggest surrender since Singapore," said Mr Abbott, referring to the fall of the British Asian fortress to the Japanese in 1942. He said Labor had committed "a complete, utter and humiliating backdown of monumental proportions". "Essentially it's business as usual," he said. "It seems that yet again smart premiers have outmanoeuvred a prime minister with very little vision." He called for genuine community hospital boards as opposed to "glorified area health authorities". Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/pm-proposes-50-50-hospital-deal/story-e6frfkw9-1226004349589#ixzz1Ddyksc2R |
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thsi getting too far down for my liking.....................bumpety bump you go
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This thread deserves pride of place.
wombleoz would love to see this thread fade away, but with a flood tax, carbon tax and mining tax on the way - it ain't happening. This is a government not only renowned for fixing problems by slapping a new tax on it - but a government that is weak, agendaless, without direction and lacking a great deal of leadership. Remember the promises of 2007? The hype, the happiness and the expectations? And then.........the reality? We've seen a lot over 4 years from Rudd-Gillard Labor. For me, I've seen enough. It's time for change. And I'm not alone in this thinking. From the billions wasted in school hall rip offs, to the insulation debacle, to the lapse in border security......this government bumbles from one tattered project to another. It self-admittingly losts it way. And nothings changed. It's the same Labor. It's a mess. Gillard is looking desperate and I'm not surprised. The polling on Monday has confirmed what ALP hard heads have known for some time - this government is dying and needs a miracle to find its way back. And if polling means nothing, why did a first term PM get executed mid-last year? Wombleoz will continue to try and pump up this government with any "good news story" he can get his desperate little hands because to him, its not about protecting, securing and building our nation nor is it about making this country stronger, prouder and more prosperous - its about "power, at any cost" / "whatever it takes". It's ideology. Unfortunately, back in the real world - its a case of, too little, far too late from Gillard Labor. |
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bump
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surely this should be at the top of the pile.........
JULY 1 2012, the beginning of the end for Joolya and her pretend government,  what a fkn joke she is , AUGUST 2010 - ' NO CARBON TAX ' FEB 2011 NOT 6 MONTHS LATER WE HAVE TAKEOFF lying,thieving, good for nothing lowest form of life this govt is, cannot get its house in order apart from living up to this topic heading |
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omg ANOTHER TAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this time is carbon tax , a tax designed to increase every year. A tax that will s hurt and hurt and hurt. Julia Gillard is a rampant communist, determined to transfer the wealth of the citizens to the goverment for redistribution to the usless. |
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Really looking forward to this tax, it can only be a good thing for the environment , and I for one, cannot wait to pay it. Yet another great initiative by this government, who prefer to lead, rather than follow.
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Yet another great initiative by this government, who prefer to lead, rather than follow.
They'll lead us alright, they'll lead us to wreck and ruin. Not only has this carbon tax sent a shiver down the spine of Australian's already battling to make ends end..... But it brings into question the character of our Prime Minister - this government has been littered with disasters, waste, scandals, butchering of first term PM's, debt and of course TAXES - and this carbon tax, certainly takes the cake.  |
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apparently there are protest marches being organised against this tax.
I will be marching. Look for the sign that says-- GILLARD- THE NEW RUDD! |
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Really looking forward to this tax, it can only be a good thing for the environment , and I for one, cannot wait to pay it
so on one hand Joel you say it will be good for the environment, but then claim to be happy to be paying it basically admitting that you will continue to go on your merry way emmitting as before rather than reducing usage as it's intended purpose is supposed to be.......... methinks you been listening to manfred mann a bit too much |