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247 - haha, Weird Al was found to have a paralysed larynx in the hennessy
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Not heard that one,wonder if humans can get that(rozel,you there,lol)
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I wondered why he was always slurring his words on Ch 4. Must have the build up to paralysed larynx.
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Grand National Winners days since last run.
2011 Ballabriggs 35 2010 Dont Push It 23 2009 Mon Mome 21 2008 Comply Or Die42 2007 Silver Birch 32 2006 Numbersix'de 27 2005 Hedgehunter 49 2004 Amberleigh h 28 2003 Montys Pass 20 2002 Bindaree 25 2001 Red Marauder 42 2000 Papillon 20 1999 Bobbyjo 24 1998 Earth Summit 35 1997 Lord Gyllene 23 1996 Rough Quest 16 1995 Royal Athlete35 1994 Miinnehoma 23 1993 void 1992 Party Pol'cs 35 1991 Seagram 23 1990 Mr Frisk 25 1989 Little pol'r 29 |
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Following Follow The Plans decisive victory in the bowl the trainer commented on the ground drying out a lot.
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Yes, lovely fast ground for these accordions...
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Even if they do have showers the going will be no worse than good,the general outlook isnt as bad as originally predicted,the National track does dry out very quickly,you only have to look at the times on National day last year.
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Incedently that very small horse Cloudy Lane lane,how did it get on over those big National fences.
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incidentally(correction)
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Do youcount Follow the Plan;s victory as a form boost for Rare Bob and Vic?
I've tookthe plunge and backed Vic Venturi, Sunnyhillboy and Killyglen. The way my week has gone Rare Bob is a cert now :-) |
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Lol,well its not exactly done their chances any harm has it,Burton Port beaten 8 lengths in the Gold Cup was beaten 3 here at levels,but Vic Venturi and Rare bob get a nice weight concession from Synchronised Saturday.
Just on form theres grounds for thinking that they have a great chance at the weights,but of the 2 rare Bob seems in better form and will 100 percent appreciate the drying ground more than Vic Venturi. |
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My mate owns Rare Bob-I left a voicemessage with him today to tell him that his horse was going to win the National-you will see him on telly the bearded chap with the wide girth-he has not got back to me.I hope he took the news well.I will post when I hear from him probably tomo.
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Really get the feeling that According To Pete will run a massive race. Jefferson in great form, distance fine improving and he fits in with these bloodlines.
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He was discussed earlier,maybe not as much class in his pedigree as the main 3 but on the list.
Jefferson has had a turnaround in form recently and the sire is via Sadlers Wells,not sure he will have as much speed as some at the business end on the drying ground though. |
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I think you have a valid point that Vic will need it soft to win. I've laid my bet off at 40 points shorter than what I backed him at and reinvested it on Rare Bob. Got all the trends horses running for me now.
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Yes,things getting a bit clearer now and i think you only have to look at the times today to appreciate how fast this track dries out(soft on monday after heavy rainfall),so with the forecast now being just a few minor showers,i think its pretty safe to say if your horse wants cut get the matches out.
![]() Having had another glance at According To Pete i feel pretty certain that although hes by Accordian he would also prefer a bit of juice,his last 7 runs on good have resulted in defeats of 4 lths,23 lths,33 lths,59 lths,15 lths(flat),27 lths and 12 1/2 lths,thats doesnt make good reading for his supporters im afraid. |
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So taking everything as it stands now,the stats and breeding horses look in an even stronger position,Killyglen won a class 1 by 9 lengths on good at Aintree,sunnyhillboy won class 1 by 4 lengths on good at Aintree and Rare Bob falling 2 out when challenging on good at Aintree giving 13lb to Prince De Beauchene(mark now 6lb lower).
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Aye. Lets hope they don't mess the ground up by watering it too much and it's all good to go!
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The Mildmay and hurdles course are good, good to soft in places after 3-5mm of watering. The going on the Grand National course, which has been selectively watered, is good to soft, good in places.
This will have no effect whatsoever,the scattered showers have failed to materialise so it will be interesting to see how the times relate to standard today. Significant move for Sunnyhillboy as well,was trading 24/25 yesterday now 19. |
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I dont like doing this but i have to say that Synchronised has absolutely no chance of winning the Grand National off 11st 10lbs,the only reason he won the gold cup was A.because is was sub standard B he has a fantastic engine an C(most importantly)A P Mccoy gave him the ride of all time.
Take a look at how he jumped the 22 fences. 1.very tentative and novicey. 2.very tentative and novicey. 3.not great. 4 couldnt see bad camera angle. 5 couldnt see bad camera angle. 6 couldnt see bad camera angle. 7 couldnt see bad camera angle. 8 good 9 took an extra step coming in. 10 took an extra step coming in. 11 ok 12 skewed a bit. 13 ok. 14 ok. 15 ok. 16 slight mistake. 17 ok. 18 ok. 19 bit tentative coming in. 20 reached for it a bit. 21 ok. 22 jumped well but again skewed to one side. He doesnt look particularly big which of course didnt stop Cloudy Lane winning yesterday,but given the weight hes set to carry and the way he jumps,i just cant see why hes trading as fav. Given the fact Mccoy was at him the whole race is another concern,good luck if your on your going to need it. |
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A heavy shower has arrived,eased off very quickly though and unlikely to affect the ground,will be keeping a close eye on the times today,although unless they get more rain between now and the National i cant see any significant change.
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No doubt According To Pete supporters will be encouraged by the rain and the fact Mr Jefferson has had yet another winner in Attaglance,must admit had to steal a bit of 44 myself,but a word of caution,the Topham was only 5.2 seconds slow after that rain,it appears to have affected the other course more looking at the times.
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shall i leave syncronized out of my 10 horse combination tricast bet then? |
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Seems a significant move for Sunnyhillboy and plenty of money asking,in from 19 at 12.25 to 16.5,JP ?.
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Weather Forecast
Friday - Dry overnight. Cloudy with sunny spells, possible showers 11C. Saturday - Dry and sunny morning, possible showers pm 10C. |
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After studying race after race i have made my decision and this is final.
Sunnyhillboy has an outstanding chance. The way he has stayed on when upped in trip screams out to me that this trip could bring out further improvement. He would have been much closer to Organisedconfusion in the Irish National if Richie McLernon not had to snatch him because of a wayward landing horse in front of him after 4 out. He lost plenty of momentum but stayed on really well in the home straight. He gets a healthy pull in the weights with the winner. I`m not at all concerned about his size or his jumping or the fact that AP has not turned down the ride on the Gold Cup winner(never in a month of sundays would he not do the honourable thing and ride his favourite owners best horse)..yet Sunnyhillboy is still at a meaty price possibly because he is being overlooked because of the AP factor. |
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Angel.
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Pretty good Jase considering i only really concentrate on 1 or 2 horses.
I had the first two home last year,but with Oscar Time as my main bet. I think i have read the race well over the last 30 years. I`ve had 6 winners and many placed. Unlike the Lincoln were i have only 1 winner Sunnyhillboy will love the ground and trip. I like Old Vics especially on good ground and flat tracks..Cappa Bleu will run well even though certain trends dont fit his profile. GL |
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cool.
yeh i had oscar as my main bet,but followed paul jones picks,and he ruled ballabriggs out because he was british trained(folly bearing in mind who trained him) I hope he has made another error this year,by ruling sunnyhillboy out because he "creeps into the race" |
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Just to add ive had no interest in the Lincoln for over 10 years.
![]() I have not read up on Paul Jones and everyone has their own angle but for me Sunnyhillboy did not really get into a battle at Cheltenham, and look at the way he stormed up the hill. Yes he was under pressure for a long way,but i would say there is much more to come over extreme distances. If you go through his form, post race race comments of stayed on well,stayed on or kept on well are mentioned time and time again. He is extremely well weighted. He has everything in his favour even if he has not been trained for the race specifically, he is certainly in fine form. |
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Clerk of the course Andrew Tulloch said: "We have maintained good ground and there will be a bit of good to soft out in the country on the National course.
"We had a band of rain on Monday which was very welcome.We thought we would be alright but the showers we were forecast did not materialise so we watered on Thursday night and last night to maintain safe jumping ground. Going on the Grand National course is good, good to soft in places. On the Mildmay chase and hurdle courses it is good (from good, good to soft in |
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These are not my fancies,they are the 4 horses with the best chances according to the statistics and pedigree of all recent winners.
Its interesting to not note that the 4 that came up were. Sunnyhillboy(10 lb well in on his new mark,winner of Kim Muir,a arce associated with previous winners) Rare Bob(winner of a grade 1 champion novice chase and 9lb lower than his mark 2 years ago) Killyglen(travelling ok when falling last year and 5lb lower here) According to pete(stables been in cracking form,and showing possibly his best form this season) It looks like we will have ground similar to last year unless we have any showers,so on that basis i would prefer the first 3 mentioned. My original fancy was Sunnyhillboy,and im not to worried that A P mccoy isnt on because i think he would struggle to do the weight. Rare Bob is also extremely interesting on this better ground,he has been over these fences and generally is a very good jumper,lets hope his pedigree supplies the stamina it says he should have. |
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insert race(correction)not arce in comments on sunny,lol
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well well well
what a wancfestofafred 247 stop vanking and get a life u knobe whatagreyday long live the knobs |
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well done 247 you picked the winning horse,but not the winning jockey.
i am still shellshocked |
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he didnt pick the winning horse, did he?
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fek off,idiot
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well if you think sunnyhill boy won then u are the fecking idiot your irish ****
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Firstly rozelkid is a someone that is known to me that lives off the knowledge of those smarter than himself,nuff said about that,but should anyone on betfair wish to know exactly who this person is and how he operates i will supply full information regarding his activities and how he operates,end of(prepare to be shocked)
![]() As regardes stats etc,as said not my fancies,but stats and pedigree facts,the only reason Sunnyhillboy was beaten was because it was ridden by a monkey who thinks hes jockey,R P Mclernon please retire,your ride was an embarressment to your profession,my granny could have given me a better ride. S h it happens but what can you say,a nose????if mr mccoy got his arse in gear and wasnt such a lazy fat t wat he might have been on the right horse AS SAID ON HERE and won his 2nd national,yes MR FAT AR SE mccoy,ME,the guy that knows more about stats and breeding more than the guy that rode a horse that DIED today THAT you RODE that i SAID had not a hope in HELL of winning. ![]() |