****The Shrewdies Team Tipster Thread Aug 2020****

Hawridge Flyer EW  7-35 newm

Yeah, it hit 1/5 IR but just couldn't get the job done. The winner is a nice horse though.

But, can we all ask the betting gods to give our man Nocturnal a break. Its brutal the run he's had with big priced selections coming 2nd this season. And yet again he got touched off this evening.....by a 40/1 rag! Thanks for the place points though, Noc...excellent pick. Keep your chin up lad, it WILL turn.

Can I say sorry to Platinum for the mix up with the selections this week. I hope he doesn't mind that I took a shot with my own selection which I was quite strong on. You can have 2 picks next week, Plat.

GL to Stu & Swaddlle tomorrow. I hope that Redcar is on for you Swad.

Nice one noc I'm sure the winners will come

Put up Beauty Choice 10pts win

Top bombing Swaddle .......P!ssed up

x 16

nice one swad

Lovely stuff Swaddle....I'm certainly glad Redcar was on. I hope you had a nice bet on it.

Hat doffed to you Swaddle, great call.

I was in a terrible mood and couldnt be arsed to type when I replied last time.... but wish I could be arsed because...

I was genuinely about to ask thinking my selection would be 8/1ish...is it worth tactically just doing 10 win as 5 each way might have little damage...so it could of been even better, but too lazy!

But in all honesty just glad to contribute to the cause...and yeah i did bet it, all of my selections now level staking just purely on the basis it will make profit...too much previous emotional attachment previously led to over and understaking....double stake on one or two a month...that wasnt one of them!

Loads of success is coming from trying to exploit 1st time handicap marks....if anyone has any spare time and wants something to target...handicap all new handicap horses yourself and compare them to actual mark and act accordingly.

ty all.

Great selection IMS.

Good stuff Swaddie better than my pile of crap, though I thought mine would have been about 7s not 9/2 second favourite.

You called it Swaddle. You thought that a mark of 59 was lenient and so it proved. Sounds like you've found an edge with your betting with regards the handicapping of all horses having their first crack in them. Long may it continue for you mate.

As for staking. I complete agree with you on LS betting, it just takes the emotion out of your betting and you can then just get on with the most important part of the job.....finding those value priced winners!

Nice one swaddle

Be nice to chip in with a winner or an EW place as well to be honest, in a team effort you always feel you need to contribute as well otherwise letting the side down

Whippin - any horse 5/1-8/1 mark is it better to put it in as an EW selection or a straight up win?

And swaddle

A lot of research must be done on your part to find those types? if you can make it pay then fair play

theres 3 that catch my eye today...dark shot,melgate magic and stone mason.done them all in an e/w patent.will decide later although im inclined to go with SM...the owners have obviously been patient and today could be the day although trainer form is a negative.

Good luck all

5 e/w dark shot southwell 2.40 is the selection

Sontaran, I'm a win only kind of bettor but seeing as Swaddle has put us in such a strong position this round, EW betting could be the way to go to inch further clear of the chasing pack. GL this week chaps, lets bring that round 2 winners trophy home...it will look rather nice on team Shrewdies mantelpiece.

Chavman is firing the first shot for the team today, GL with that one.

Yes, good luck Chav, still considering Little Ted in the 3.30 myself, will keep looking.

Brilliant Chav

BOOM! Get in there Chavers! The Shrewdies ain't messing around!

1.04 and done late on.

Nice one Chav deffo the one leading by example and ul tiger its a stinger but it was a good selection if it went that low in running just canted as I like to put it

And cheers for the advice whipping will probably put a 6/1 shot in as an EW in the hope we get the place money out of it at least

Nice one chavman

Great work again Chavman.

Stick with it Tiger.

No right or wrongs Sontaran,go with your instinct,you will be just fine.

WD chav matey

Unlucky tiger , very!

Really liked one at the Abbot this evening but the horse could only manage a 2nd place. GL to those still to play this week.

Just found one too good on the day WP,getting closer.

Busy all week at the moment,be friday/sat for next dart.Good looking entries both days,way too many to sift through at this stage.

GL Everyone.

Just checked and have seen we're top in this round by a decent margin thanks to the previous hits by others so

Cat Royale EW shout at 10s I know its not the best type of race to get involved in but the horse has been knocking on the door past 2 starts round here (Wolverhampton) and think the run at Bath last time out was just a prep run after time off the track. And the jockey takes 3 off as well which is a plus.

Aye to build on the previous comment..."its not the best race to be involved in" - I think I have one of those races today, 2PM Bath ALBA DEL SOLE, I fancy it but expect a trappy race for obvious reasons. For comp purposes playing EW in that race is betting suicide using bookmaker SP and then add to this the fact we are top and probably only need a few more points...maybe! I'll try and stick something a bit shorter I fancy up later in the week.

Afters all, good luck with that one ItsMeSwaddle, bad news is that I was considering that one as well! Torn between For Three and Calvanist in the 6.30 Hexham, maybe I'll wait for another day if I cant decide.

Brilliant pick Chavman, well done inded, cracking price.

Interesting shout Sontaran.

Course and distance look fine,not too much pace looking at this lot.

Should be able to get over from that stall position,has done in the past.

Two questions are ;

Headgear ? Does he get the noseband back on with the pieces.

Is the 9 day turnaround enough, if he was undercooked for prep.

Quirky individual,talented enough at his level,the 3 yr olds muddy the water somewhat.

GL whatever you decide,open looking contest.

Aye noc

The pace angle made me go with it in that as you say should get across, the only concern is if it doesn't get across from that draw its stuck out wide and needs to tuck in

Gets across settles in front its all good

Calvanist, dillied and dallied then didnt put it up.

just put up Happy Romance 3.10 Salisbury 10pts win

Nice one Stu. That tidy winner has helped the team power 2 lengths clear inside the final furlong and our IR price has just hit 1.44

Been there Plat!

WD stu......won well.

Well Done Stu ..... Did that really well.

It,s a tricky one Plat,your time will come.

"Not today" would be my assessment Sontaran,keep an eye out for him in the near future.

Plenty can happen WP,one decent hit can change things,need to pull my finger out.

Excellent stu

WD STU

Well played stu

Noc, yeah will follow that one as its deffo got a win in it over the winter, sadly not this week

Afternoon, or good morning to you in the uk. Having a go today I think rather than wait until tomorrow and be forced to make a selection, I'm choosing from - currently under scrutiny Labeeb in the 3.40, like the wfa allowance here or either Operatic Export/Miss M in the first at Sedgefield two trainers with good records at the course and I do think the former would have been a lot coser in his race lto but for a blunder two out (2nd and 5th have won next time out) on the other hand Miss M has looked good in her two wins! Decisions, decisions.

I am putting this up on all team threads to hopefully get your agreement to a scoring change, mid-competition, something I don't like doing but I think in this case it warrants it.
The scoring method I use gives back 10pts stake to winners, and doesn't take it off losers, so it makes no difference to winning Win or EW selections.
Where the selection is placed, I have been only giving back the 5pts place part of the stake, so the 5pts win stake is deducted but really shouldn't be.

So for example
Current scoring
1/4 winner gets 12.50 (2.50 profit plus 10pts stake back)
6/1 placed at quarter odds gets 12.50 (7.50 profit plus 5pts stake back)

Proposed scoring
1/4 winner gets 12.50 (2.50 profit plus 10pts stake back)
6/1 placed at quarter odds gets 17.50 (7.50 profit plus 10pts stake back)

There has been a question on why I give the stake back. I wanted to keep the week's scoring baseline at zero rather than work with minuses for losses.
So a team with 8 non-selections or losing selections stays on zero rather than -80, it's just tidier in my opinion and makes no material difference to scoring other than the place anomaly.

Everyone knew the rules at the outset undecided, why change them now.

Just having a bit of fun, Noc But with yourself, Swaddle & Plat to come, I'm quietly confident of seeing the R2 winners trophy on team Shrewdies mantelpiece....I mean, I've already made a space for it.

originally priced up as the rags yet now leading the field...the bunch of deluded tools thought we were stupid....mad innit...fck em..

brilliant so far lads....hopefully we add to our tally this week...

Chavman

I know you are WP,expect the worst is my experience of this game,lets see how we end up tomorrow.

Tiger in Greece,Plat sounds like he,s in barbados,with a pair of budgies on

Nobody mentioned the jet-setting bit,sounds like a bunch of right rogues

Tiger's back in sunny Northumbria, holiday over

Northumbria in itself a holiday , unless  its Wallsend, I grew up there

Today I have to make a selection and have 3 half fancies.


Ive decided on Celsius 155 Ascot EW - Tad stuck in the gates at Bath and then pulled really hard, I thought this would of done for its chances but it stuck on well in lets face it, a poor race. Only beaten a couple of lengths. Today I think the course suits its run style despite its awful record at Ascot overall, a a reduction of 1lb from last effort wont harm. Hopefully it gets held up out the back in there is enough pace in the form of Yimou or Just Glamorous to run late and deliver a challenge.

Other selections could of been Teddy Boy 255 Navan, will cut through the pack if runs a decent first half it should be finishing strongly.

Another that tempted me first time in a hcap is Mr lauda 7pm Wolves, its Ponte run beaten 6L was a complete no show, anything drawn wide in Ponte sprints struggles to feature, that was the case there. A mark of 63 sadly is only just below where it should be, hence not selecting this one.

Goodluck today everyone

Good luck Swad. Change of jockey could do the trick with Celsius, didnt get out the stall properly lto, nice price too

Wallsend? Not many would own up to growing up there It should still be part of Northumberland, cant stand all this Tyne and Wear crap.

Good luck nocturnal and ItsMeSwaddle with yours today. Still deciding here, I would prefer to wait until just before the off to see how the markets speaks but realise that there is a 3.00 cut of time for today so that strategy wont be possible, under scrutiny:

3.45 Bullfinch - impressive turn of foot last time, beat a 79 rated horse giving it 12lb with ease so a mark of 95 might be lenient and a 3lb claimer on as well.
4.10 Young Wolf - I'm sure Jojno will have worked on his jumping at home, won his Nov Ch nicely but didnt jump great, gets in on Handicap Chased debut just 2lb higher than his last winning hurdle mark when still improving, sure to be more to come, being Jonjo's I would like to have seen the market right up to the off but not possible today.
1.20 Monsoon Moon, nothing better than a well backed Gosden newcomer.

Pondering.....

Goodluck today all.

Dont let anyone put you off your biggest fancy Plat!

Good write up's chaps. GL today

Another cracking shout Chavman, would have won but for that tardy start.

Well not being able to monitor the market right up to the off has swayed me towards Bullfinch in the 3.45 as Roger Charlton has already posted a winner.

Thats ran a stinker and got 2nd.

Just realised/forgot that the scoring system doesnt aid EW betting, at least it was placed.

Not a dig at undecided, the comp is being well run, great work.

Ooops, I meant good shout ItsMeSwaddle

unlucky swad...still got points on the board though as the humbugs were nearly level with us after 2 winners

Well done to all scorers this week

Be nice to get on the score sheet as well

Posted. Just nocturnal to post now?

Unlucky IMS ......Another desperate ride from you know who.

GL Platinum.

2-50 haydock Diocletian EW

One of the big handicaps today.

Times suggest it,s still really slow at Haydock.

His last run at chester was eyecatching,against some much better horses on OR,and stablemate.

Be nice to see a little support before the off,been drifting last hour.

Lovely call there nocturnal, 3rd place and good each way money .

Very proud of my lads today!

Swad and nocturnal, two great each way calls

nicely done nocturnal

Well done Swaddie and nocturnal nice ew points

Platinum Nice one.

Well done plat was my nap today as well 

WD plat

Great stuff, Platinum. That horse is building a very nice profile.

Did the job nicely and just as important gives us a few more points in the comp.

Another one wins on the snaff ....great call Platinum

Yeah, good work Plat. Smashing selection and that winner has now seen us power 6L clear inside the last half furlong with the jockey looking around and our IR price just hit 1.04

Chav and Plat are top by a fair way, if not for them we'd be out with the washing

top selections guys well done

And Swaddie as well

Very WD plat

Not the outsiders any more eh?

Very well played

Chavs will fail the drugs test at some point....

Seriously though w/d lads some top notch tipping

I don’t do drugs.i hope this won’t defer from your smirk being swallowed.

Great weeks tipping from you lot, very well done.

Poor race to play EW in stops me putting up Show Palace 330 today on here, pretty confident i will find something I fancy more in 6 days, but wouldn't put anyone off backing it on the exchanges win and place. Take a look at its last coupe of runs, hard not to fancy if he doesnt make a mess again.

Cracking efforts guys
300+ from any Team is a mighty score
Remember its a Team game, so have a week off and take time to let others catch up

Preferably have 6 weeks off   

Very well done to the chav esp who got the team this win

If one of us can hit form during each round we'll be right there all the time

*swad was our highest scorer this round i think

everyone contributed and by other teams admission 300 points in the 2nd week was a massive score

anyways we start from scratch again and im sure well give it our best shot again

well done all round to all

in fact swad out scored me by 30 odd!....he had 14/1 winner and 9/1 place so hes the main man this round..

its a team game though lads and as long as we keep putting points on the board well be fine

Thought you were the top scorer chav, but fair dues to Swad as well

Both of you with great selections

Correct Chav .....IMS dug us out of a big hole week 1,4 selections in we were 0 points.

After that we were pretty consistent,no doubt there will be weeks where that does not happen.

Everyone will be settled down now,top punting yesterday from a few teams,always nice to see.

The 12/1 may have gone,still a little 10/1 according to kens doddschecker

Whippin Piccadilly, are you opening a new thread for September? This one's getting a bit full now.

Well done Team let's hope we can keep it going.

Cheers Simrnoff, the Dealer & Stewpot. I think we might have come in a point or 2, UD

All done, Stu. GL this week team.

Aye a team game, funny old game is gambling, wasnt bothered about adding real money to my system balance....was more relived contributed to the team

Relieved

5e/w the big house 2.50 Catt is the selection

Good luck chavman.

GL Chavman

Chavman, the coolest dude in town.

Take A Bow Chavman

Chav fires an early shot across the bows of our opponents....they must be getting worried that its going to be round 2 all over again.

I've created another thread for our team for September. I think we should use that one now until the comp ends, I won't make one for Oct and so on.