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Champions League Tipster Comp Stage 1, 1st Round
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Starts Monday 16th September.

Everyone plays their first round match this week.

Long list of rules coming up but worth taking it all in.

I'll be happy to answer any questions, best of luck to all Happy
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undecided When: 15 Sep 13 17:41
Competition Format:

64 players entered

1st Group Stage (3 weeks), 64 players divided into 16 groups of 4, each player plays each other once (3 matches each), top 2 from each group qualify to stage 2.

2nd Stage (3 weeks), 32 qualified from 1st Stage are divided into 8 groups of 4, top two qualify from each group.

3rd Stage (3 weeks), 16 qualified from 2nd Stage are divided into 4 groups of 4, only the winner goes through.

Final Group Stage (3 weeks) - the last 4 standing, 3 final matches each to determine the champion.

Draws will take place on the Sunday before each new group stage.
By:
undecided When: 15 Sep 13 17:42
Group stage match format:

Within each match, players will be required to pick one horse, win only, any price. You may not pick the same selection as your opponent.
Players can pick any time Monday to Saturday (the duration of the match).  Sundays will be for catching up on results and making draws.
There will be a cut-off for all selections on Saturday - the time of the first UK/Irish race. You will have the choice therefore, you can pick at leisure during the week, running the risk of showing your hand to your opponent, or of waiting to play on Saturday to prevent that. During the week, you may select right up to the scheduled race time (one minute before), so you may have the advantage of seeing the market moves. Obviously if you pick a loser early week then you give your opponent a long window to find that odds-on cert, but you may be able to exert extra pressure with a winner.

Once you post a selection, you can't change it, unless it's a duplicate or non-runner.
You are not allowed to leave reserves.
By:
undecided When: 15 Sep 13 17:44
Scoring (Industry SP used for prices):

A match winner will get 2pts, but there will be the possibility of winning a bonus point for making a winning selection on or above the price of Evens, irrespective of winning or losing the match. If a match is drawn, both with the same priced winner, or both losers, then it's 1pt each.
There will also be a chance for one additional bonus point, awarded at the end of the group stage, to the player with the biggest priced winner. If there is a tie for biggest priced winner, the bonus point will not apply.

Possible match scenarios:
Player A picks a winner under evens and Player B picks a loser - Player A gets 2pts, Player B gets 0pts.
Player A picks a winner evens or over and Player B picks a winner under evens - Player A gets 3pts, Player B gets 0pts.
Player A picks a winner evens or over and Player B picks a winner evens or over but a lesser price than Player A - Player A gets 3pts, Player B gets 1pt.
Player A picks a winner evens or over and Player B picks a winner of identical price - Player A gets 2pts, Player B gets 2pts.
Player A picks a loser and Player B picks a loser, or both pick identical winners below Evens - Player A gets 1pt, Player B gets 1pt.
By:
undecided When: 15 Sep 13 17:46
Non-runners:

If a player does not select or picks a duplicate or picks a non-runner (non-runners/duplicates evident before the Saturday cut-off can be replaced) then they will be assigned a selection - Last race fav. (If jt. favs then lowest number on the card). If both players in a match end up with non-runners then it will be 1pt each.
If a player just doesn't turn up for at least one of the three group matches then they are out irrespective of pts gained through assigned LRFs.
By:
undecided When: 15 Sep 13 17:48
Tied on points:

Tie-breakers at the end of group stages as follows:

1. Any player that missed a selection (including picking a duplicate) will be penalised
2. Head to head record between tied players
3. Overall Profit/Loss figure
4. Higher aggregate prices for all three selections
By:
undecided When: 15 Sep 13 17:49
Holiday cover

If you know that you will be away and cannot post for any match, I will accept a post on your behalf as follows:

You must notify in advance of the match that you will not be posting.
You can either email me your selection or
email to someone else to post on your behalf or
nominate someone to select for you.

I will not accept posts on your behalf unless approved by me in advance of the match in question.
By:
undecided When: 15 Sep 13 17:54
Prepare for plenty of scrolling as the group lists are long! During the week I will only post group updates where there has been some action that day. For Saturday, when I expect most will play, I will try and keep an up-to-date list of selections so that players can check opponent's picks as there are to be no duplicates.

Group 1
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
shanelee1966 v dogdayafternoon
s.kenbo v sonofshinner
shanelee1966 v s.kenbo
dogdayafternoon v sonofshinner
shanelee1966 v sonofshinner
dogdayafternoon v s.kenbo


Group 2
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
la mallatiere v adamanty
razmos v Dan Chipowski
la mallatiere v razmos
adamanty v Dan Chipowski
la mallatiere v Dan Chipowski
adamanty v razmos


Group 3
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
DeSSieReborn v raspberrybottom
dunter1 v pauli
DeSSieReborn v dunter1
raspberrybottom v pauli
DeSSieReborn v pauli
raspberrybottom v dunter1


Group 4
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
bettysboy v deadbrain59
Ming_the_Merciless v pumphol.
bettysboy v Ming_the_Merciless
deadbrain59 v pumphol.
bettysboy v pumphol.
deadbrain59 v Ming_the_Merciless


Group 5
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
the dealer v buffythebookieslayer
AyersRock v themuppet
the dealer v AyersRock
buffythebookieslayer v themuppet
the dealer v themuppet
buffythebookieslayer v AyersRock


Group 6
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Stevie Gerrard v SkyAtlantic
petemac v CASanMartin
Stevie Gerrard v petemac
SkyAtlantic v CASanMartin
Stevie Gerrard v CASanMartin
SkyAtlantic v petemac


Group 7
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Cloughie1 v zipper
FCH v sixtwosix
Cloughie1 v FCH
zipper v sixtwosix
Cloughie1 v sixtwosix
zipper v FCH


Group 8
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Ardross66 v undecided
hong kong fooey v uptheboro
Ardross66 v hong kong fooey
undecided v uptheboro
Ardross66 v uptheboro
undecided v hong kong fooey


Group 9
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
feastforfamine v SilverBuck1
alleged22 v stewpot
feastforfamine v alleged22
SilverBuck1 v stewpot
feastforfamine v stewpot
SilverBuck1 v alleged22


Group 10
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
GEORGE.B v china castle
Moose v Aquarius
GEORGE.B v Moose
china castle v Aquarius
GEORGE.B v Aquarius
china castle v Moose


Group 11
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
duffy v Kentish Man
DFCIRONMAN v pedro39
duffy v DFCIRONMAN
Kentish Man v pedro39
duffy v pedro39
Kentish Man v DFCIRONMAN


Group 12
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
salmon spray v Tingle Creek
DubaiPrince v k sera sera
salmon spray v DubaiPrince
Tingle Creek v k sera sera
salmon spray v k sera sera
Tingle Creek v DubaiPrince


Group 13
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
twm. v Ricky Santini
shearer2therestcue v lagmorian
twm. v shearer2therestcue
Ricky Santini v lagmorian
twm. v lagmorian
Ricky Santini v shearer2therestcue


Group 14
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
dukeofpuke v hi 5's
differentdrum v madhatters
dukeofpuke v differentdrum
hi 5's v madhatters
dukeofpuke v madhatters
hi 5's v differentdrum


Group 15
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
MALTWHIX v Lampus
Andrew In Sweden v john.t
MALTWHIX v Andrew In Sweden
Lampus v john.t
MALTWHIX v john.t
Lampus v Andrew In Sweden


Group 16
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Mikael D'Haguenet v angeleyz
Sing when ur winning v unluckyStu
Mikael D'Haguenet v Sing when ur winning
angeleyz v unluckyStu
Mikael D'Haguenet v unluckyStu
angeleyz v Sing when ur winning
By:
undecided When: 15 Sep 13 17:58
If you need someone to post on your behalf any week, you must let me know before the match starts.
As this is the first week, I will allow some leeway on that, this week only, let me know before Saturday.
By:
Shanelee1966 When: 15 Sep 13 19:42
ud - so player A selects a 4/6 loser and player B selects a 6/4 loser please clarify points.
By:
undecided When: 15 Sep 13 20:12
1pt each, as in no-score draw.
By:
buffythebookieslayer When: 15 Sep 13 21:11
Hi undecided, just one question. Do we put just the name of the horse, time and meeting, or would you like us to put which group we are in as well

Thanks
By:
undecided When: 15 Sep 13 21:28
buffy, I'll be posting a lot of updates in the group format above when there's some action, so I don't think it will be necessary to note the group, but no harm in doing so.
By:
buffythebookieslayer When: 16 Sep 13 07:46
Okay well i will get the ball rolling i guess.

Group 5:

Seattle Drive - 4.10 Musselburgh

Thanks Undecided
Good Luck Everyone
By:
Kentish Man When: 16 Sep 13 10:14
Black Treacle  2.40 Muss.

Thank you UD for the massive preparation, hope all goes well and good luck to everyone.
KM.
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 10:20
Group 11
Group 5
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
the dealer v 4.10 Mus Seattle Drive buffythebookieslayer
AyersRock v themuppet
the dealer v AyersRock
buffythebookieslayer v themuppet
the dealer v themuppet
buffythebookieslayer v AyersRock



OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
duffy v 2.40 Mus Black Treacle Kentish Man
DFCIRONMAN v pedro39
duffy v DFCIRONMAN
Kentish Man v pedro39
duffy v pedro39
Kentish Man v DFCIRONMAN
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 10:21
Group 5
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
the dealer v 4.10 Mus Seattle Drive buffythebookieslayer
AyersRock v themuppet
the dealer v AyersRock
buffythebookieslayer v themuppet
the dealer v themuppet
buffythebookieslayer v AyersRock


Group 11
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
duffy v 2.40 Mus Black Treacle Kentish Man
DFCIRONMAN v pedro39
duffy v DFCIRONMAN
Kentish Man v pedro39
duffy v pedro39
Kentish Man v DFCIRONMAN
By:
Stevie Gerrard When: 16 Sep 13 11:04
I'm sorry I was going to try and hold out all week but Sky Atlantic's mind games have got the better of me so I'm going to play early this week.
By:
Stevie Gerrard When: 16 Sep 13 11:05
Group 6 v Sky Atlantic

3.30 Wolves - Relation Alexander

cheers
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 11:11
Group 6
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Stevie Gerrard Relation Alexander 3.30 Wol v SkyAtlantic
petemac v CASanMartin
Stevie Gerrard v petemac
SkyAtlantic v CASanMartin
Stevie Gerrard v CASanMartin
SkyAtlantic v petemac
By:
Ardross66 When: 16 Sep 13 12:17
Group 8 v Undecided

Threave - 5.20 Brighton

Cheers
By:
bettysboy When: 16 Sep 13 12:49
Group 4 v deadbrain59

Fisher Lane 3.50 Brighton please
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 12:51
Group 4
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
bettysboy Fisher Lane 3.50 Bri v deadbrain59
Ming_the_Merciless v pumphol.
bettysboy v Ming_the_Merciless
deadbrain59 v pumphol.
bettysboy v pumphol.
deadbrain59 v Ming_the_Merciless


Group 8
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Ardross66 Threave 5.20 Bri v undecided
hong kong fooey v uptheboro
Ardross66 v hong kong fooey
undecided v uptheboro
Ardross66 v uptheboro
undecided v hong kong fooey
By:
zipper When: 16 Sep 13 13:01
Grey Blue 5.10 about a 4/1 shot   12 runners   any N/R i will pick again  why rule 4 in this comp can make a big  difference.. good luck  guys,   and to Undecided  all the very best 
the winner whoever it is  will be a legend
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 13:29
Hi zipper, once you've posted that's it, no changing, mainly because there are no duplicates allowed and you may have prevented your opponent from picking your original selection.
Of-course you may reselect if yours is a non-runner, or if you had inadvertently copied your opponent.
By:
zipper When: 16 Sep 13 13:51
Fair point  never thought of that   so it stands
reason  i pointed it out    anyone  could put up say a 9/2 shot and the first  2 favs are N/R . you are now left with an 8/11 on shot  . and we all know odds on shots are not going to win this comp or any comp .
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 13:58
zipper, you may not fully appreciate how this works. If yours loses today, your opponent has the rest of this week in which to find a winner, any price! If they got an odds-on winner they would get 2pts to your 0pts. If they got an Evens + winner they would have an extra bonus point.
If you do win today though at the current 7/2 then you are in a strong position.
By:
DeSSieReborn When: 16 Sep 13 13:59
And anyone could put up a 5/2 2nd fav that gets backed in to odds on. Its all going to happen and there will be suffering Wink
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 14:25
Group 7
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Cloughie1 v 5.10 Mus Grey Blue zipper
FCH v sixtwosix
Cloughie1 v FCH
zipper v sixtwosix
Cloughie1 v sixtwosix
zipper v FCH
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 14:36
Remember, during the week you may post right up to the scheduled off time (one minute before).
On Saturdays all selections must be in before the first scheduled UK/Irish race.

First runner coming up - Kentish Man's Black Treacle in the 2.40, currently right on that Evens bonus point threshold!
By:
DeSSieReborn When: 16 Sep 13 15:38
Group 3 v Raspberry Bottom, Bounty Girl 3.40 Muss please UD
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 16:15
Group 3
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
-01.00 -01.00 DeSSieReborn Bounty Girl 3.40 Mus L 9/2 v raspberrybottom
dunter1 v pauli
DeSSieReborn v dunter1
raspberrybottom v pauli
DeSSieReborn v pauli
raspberrybottom v dunter1


Group 4
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
-01.00 -01.00 bettysboy Fisher Lane 3.50 Bri L 8/1 v deadbrain59
Ming_the_Merciless v pumphol.
bettysboy v Ming_the_Merciless
deadbrain59 v pumphol.
bettysboy v pumphol.
deadbrain59 v Ming_the_Merciless


Group 5
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
the dealer v 5/2 L 4.10 Mus Seattle Drive buffythebookieslayer -01.00 -01.00
AyersRock v themuppet
the dealer v AyersRock
buffythebookieslayer v themuppet
the dealer v themuppet
buffythebookieslayer v AyersRock


Group 6
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
-01.00 -01.00 Stevie Gerrard Relation Alexander 3.30 Wol L 3/2 v SkyAtlantic
petemac v CASanMartin
Stevie Gerrard v petemac
SkyAtlantic v CASanMartin
Stevie Gerrard v CASanMartin
SkyAtlantic v petemac


Group 11
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
duffy v 6/5 L 2.40 Mus Black Treacle Kentish Man -01.00 -01.00
DFCIRONMAN v pedro39
duffy v DFCIRONMAN
Kentish Man v pedro39
duffy v pedro39
Kentish Man v DFCIRONMAN
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 17:44
Group 7
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
Cloughie1 v 3/1 L 5.10 Mus Grey Blue zipper -01.00 -01.00
FCH v sixtwosix
Cloughie1 v FCH
zipper v sixtwosix
Cloughie1 v sixtwosix
zipper v FCH


Group 8
OvPts OvPL Pts P/L Player Selection Tim/Mt Res SP SP Res Tim/Mt Selection Player P/L Pts OvPL OvPts
-01.00 -01.00 Ardross66 Threave 5.20 Bri L 3/1 v undecided
hong kong fooey v uptheboro
Ardross66 v hong kong fooey
undecided v uptheboro
Ardross66 v uptheboro
undecided v hong kong fooey
By:
undecided When: 16 Sep 13 17:46
Some positive attempts at an early strike not rewarded today.
By:
salmon spray When: 16 Sep 13 19:26
Carnage.
By:
Shanelee1966 When: 16 Sep 13 19:46
There is an obvious advantage in selecting during the week.
By:
pedro39 When: 16 Sep 13 20:45
Group 11 v DFCIRONMAN

Chepstow 4.50 Astra Hall
By:
DFCIRONMAN When: 16 Sep 13 22:00
Tough race pedro ....GL
By:
hi 5's When: 17 Sep 13 08:27
Group 14 v duke'

See The Sun - Thir 2.10

cheers.
By:
angeleyz When: 17 Sep 13 09:56
Group 16 v Mikael D'Haguenet

Pateese - 4.35 Stratford

ty undecided
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