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By:
Shanelee1966
When: 02 Aug 13 20:25
la mallatiere:

Havana Cooler - 2.40 Goodwood
By:
Ardross66
When: 02 Aug 13 21:45
Holley Shiftwell 5.35 Good
Cheers
By:
Weaver Fish
When: 02 Aug 13 22:00
Billy - Busted Tycoon 5:55 Galway
By:
Weaver Fish
When: 02 Aug 13 22:26
POS CHG  FORM    NAME                      SELECTION                      RESULT         +/-       TOTAL
1▲   +4  1        learning thegame          Gucci D'oro                    WON 7/2        3.50       £4.41
2▲ +11  4        ardgirl                    Retirement Plan                WON 4/1        4.00       £3.00
3▲   +5  1        GEORGE.B                  Alegra                          WON 7/4F      1.75       £2.58
4▲   +9  4        madhatter                  LRF                            WON 3/1F      3.00       £2.00
5   +8  5        la mallatiere (1)          LRF                            WON 3/1F      3.00       £2.00
5   +8  6        caulkhead (1)              LRF                            WON 3/1F      3.00       £2.00
5   +8  4        man of many moods (1)    LRF                            WON 3/1F      3.00       £2.00
5   +8  0        tryoffagain (1)          LRF                            WON 3/1F      3.00       £2.00
5   +8  2        bettysboy (1)              LRF                            WON 3/1F      3.00       £2.00
5   +8  2        look - its snowing (1)    LRF                            WON 3/1F      3.00       £2.00
11 -10  1        Poppydog                  Invalid Selection - 1hr rule    Lost        -1.00       £1.75
12   -7  1        soldieroffortune          Unaccompanied                  WON 8/15F      0.53       £1.44
13   -5  1        old applejack              Unaccompanied                  WON 8/15F      0.53       £1.36
14 -12  1        Ricky Santini              Oldjoesaid                      8th          -1.00       £0.38
15 -12  1        Lusitano71 (1)            Dumbarton                      4th          -1.00       £0.38
16 -12  1        caress                    Investment Expert              2nd          -1.00       £0.10
17 -12  1        healing hands              Madrasa                        5th          -1.00      -£0.09
18 -10  1        majorupshotbagley          Edged Out                      2nd          -1.00      -£0.17
18 -10  1        the pretender              Red Baron                      12th        -1.00      -£0.17
18 -10  1        Ardross66                  Levi Draper                    3rd          -1.00      -£0.17
18   -5  4        Fidway                    Montiridge                      WON 5/6F      0.83      -£0.17
22   -9  0        dogdayafternoon            Sky Lantern                    NR            0.00      -£1.00
23 -10  2        ashmal                    Alzavola                        3rd          -1.00      -£2.00
23 -10  5        the muppet                Levi Draper                    3rd          -1.00      -£2.00
23 -10  7        angeleyz                  Yorkshire Relish                17th        -1.00      -£2.00
23 -10  5        BillyWhizzle              Masterstroke                    5th          -1.00      -£2.00
23 -10  8        cannyman                  Dark Spirit                    2nd          -1.00      -£2.00
23 -10  4        The Lord BUSH              Masterstroke                    5th          -1.00      -£2.00
23 -10  2        kwalker                    Investment Expert              2nd          -1.00      -£2.00
23 -10  0        geos1                      Snow Rose                      5th          -1.00      -£2.00
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By:
angeleyz
When: 02 Aug 13 22:30
If So - 5.15 Newmarket

ty weaver fish
By:
kwalker
When: 03 Aug 13 07:31
Reasonare- 5.30 Lingfield
Thanks
By:
themuppet
When: 03 Aug 13 07:49
dineur 3.55 newton abbot
cheers
By:
Ricky Santini
When: 03 Aug 13 08:47
Lady Of The House - 2.20 Newmarket

cheers
By:
geos1
When: 03 Aug 13 09:20
good 2.40 bold sniper
ta
By:
learning thegame
When: 03 Aug 13 09:39
Harbinger Lass - 1.55 Thirsk
By:
Ashmal
When: 03 Aug 13 09:59
Plain Sailing 2.10 Newton Abbot
By:
caulkhead
When: 03 Aug 13 10:07
Hoof It - 3.50 Goodwood

Cheers
By:
caress
When: 03 Aug 13 10:25
Snow Trouble - 4.25 Goodwood

Thanks
By:
soldieroffortune
When: 03 Aug 13 10:26
Morning Weaver

Bear Island Flint - 5.05 Newton Abbot

Thanks
By:
majorupshotbagley
When: 03 Aug 13 10:41
Good morning Weaver Fish

Akdam - 3.20 Newton abbot

Thanks
By:
The Lord BUSH
When: 03 Aug 13 10:42
Akdam 3.20 Newton Abbot



3-1 please
By:
general custer
When: 03 Aug 13 10:43
the pretender Hot Snap-3.15 Good
By:
Poppydog.
When: 03 Aug 13 10:55
Are all the LRF winners people who left instructions or didn't post?
By:
bettysboy
When: 03 Aug 13 10:56
Our Boy Jack 4.15 Thirsk please
By:
look - it's snowing
When: 03 Aug 13 11:39
for Look its Snowing

Sound Reflection - 1.45 Newmarket
Grin
By:
old applejack
When: 03 Aug 13 12:05
Royal Skies - 2.40 Goodwood
By:
look - it's snowing
When: 03 Aug 13 12:18
healing hands            

Fast Track 3.05 Thirsk

Cheers
By:
Reged
When: 03 Aug 13 12:25
Poppydog, it's been several months now that instructions have been done away with. LRF automatically kicks in  if someone doesn't post.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 03 Aug 13 12:37
Makruma

Newmarket 1.45

thanks
By:
.Fidway.
When: 03 Aug 13 13:20
315 goo

sky lantern
By:
Poppydog.
When: 03 Aug 13 13:28

Aug 3, 2013 -- 12:25PM, Reged wrote:


Poppydog, it's been several months now that instructions have been done away with. LRF automatically kicks in  if someone doesn't post.


So making an effort to join in the competition and post Last Race Fav 30 secs too late was punished,
but not bothering with the competition would have resulted in a nice winner of exactly the same horse

By:
kenny mann
When: 03 Aug 13 13:46
cannyman  Integral - 3-15 Goodwood   Thanks
By:
Reged
When: 03 Aug 13 13:59
A competition needs rules, and the current rules were arrived at after a considerable amount of debate by all who made the effort to give their input. And, under the rules, once you post, the LRF option ceases to apply under any circumstances. The rule is there for people who are unable to post for one reason or another, although inevitably it also applies to those who simply don't want to. But once someone posts, even if it's just to slag off a settler or two, it is clear they are able to post a selection that day and therefore should do so, all the while watching out for the 1-hour rule.
By:
Poppydog.
When: 03 Aug 13 14:34
Thanks 

Groundbreaking - 3:35 Donc
By:
tryoffagain
When: 03 Aug 13 14:44
Sovereign Debt - 4.05 Newmarket
By:
man of many moods
When: 03 Aug 13 14:59
Sovereign Debt - 4.05 Newmarket
By:
man of many moods
When: 03 Aug 13 15:11
You make a couple of interesting points there Reg.

I think it was while I was covering for Shane last week that someone posted a selection on behalf of another player but failed to post one for himself. I wondered then about the LRF default in such circumstances where clearly the player had been able to post, but didn't.

And I take your point about the 1-hr Rule. If someone breaks it and there are subsequent races to select from then obviously the player is in a position to select. Slightly different in Poppydog's case though isn't it? He just missed the 1hr deadline for the last race and was therefore not in a position to select from any subsequent races. A case could certainly be made there for defaulting to the LRF, I would have thought.

In fact, it could be argued that once the 1-hr marker for the last race had been passed, Poppydog was already automatically on the LRF, and therefore any subsequent post by him was meaningless.
By:
Poppydog.
When: 03 Aug 13 15:35
Thanks for the post, MoMM.

It's up to Weaver Fish though and the -£1 seems fair enough.
Just feel like a fool, borrowing someones phone down the beach, to post a selection last night,
and watching the secs tick by, and missing it by a fraction.

It's up to me to know it wasn't all necessary.
By:
Lusitano71
When: 03 Aug 13 15:40
Wadi Al Hattawi - Donc

Thanks
By:
Reged
When: 03 Aug 13 15:50
So MoMM, if I post for something in the 8.00 at 7.01 that is invalid, but if I post something for the 9.00 last race at 8.01 that can revert to LRF?
By:
Reged
When: 03 Aug 13 15:52
I think your last line is rather the point Poppydog. Must admit, I couldnt fathom why you'd posted that since it was going to be the case anyway
By:
man of many moods
When: 03 Aug 13 16:01
You're looking at it the wrong way Reg. 'revert' is the wrong word to use.

If the last race is at 9pm then every player in the Division who hasn't selected by 8pm has 'No Selection' for the day.
After 8pm there are no more races he can choose from, so under the current Rules his 'No Selection' automatically defaults to the LRF.
So any subsequent posts after 8pm (even 8.01!) are quite superfluous and should simply be ignored.

In the example you quoted a player selecting at 7.01 for an 8.00 race still has the opportunity to select again so of course that would be invalid.

That's the way I see it anyway.
By:
man of many moods
When: 03 Aug 13 16:09
I'm curious about the other point you raised though.

If a player posts a comment on the thread and then subsequently fails to post a selection, does that mean he's ineligible to default to the LRF?
By:
Poppydog.
When: 03 Aug 13 16:10
You're then getting into the realms of:

Does the Day's Competition officially finish at 8:01pm or when the Day's Racing actually finishes 9pm

It's an interesting debate.
Today's 6/1 winner has cheered me up though (even with the dampner it was 11/1 this morning)
So, I'll stay out of it.

You should know the rules can't be argued with
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