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By:
madhatter
When: 21 Nov 12 21:47
Saharia - 5.40 Kempton please momm
By:
general custer
When: 21 Nov 12 22:53
the pretender Red Jade-12.40 Mrktr
By:
flyingbolt
When: 22 Nov 12 07:11
Mister Hyde - 2.10 Market Rasen
By:
man of many moods
When: 22 Nov 12 07:42
HEREFORD and WINCANTON are both OFF.

Market Rasen, Kempton and Thurles is all wot's left.
By:
learning thegame
When: 22 Nov 12 07:43
For Draw 1 .....

Estedaama - 6.40 Kempton
By:
man of many moods
When: 22 Nov 12 07:45
Table will be a bit late this morning due to a slight case of overindulgence yesterday evening.
I hope to have it posted by about 09:23 GMT.
By:
kwalker
When: 22 Nov 12 07:48
Red Jade - 12.40 Market Rasen
Thanks
By:
WeeJimmyMcTavish
When: 22 Nov 12 08:12
for Lordy

Russian Ice - 7.40 Kempton
By:
man of many moods
When: 22 Nov 12 08:44
THURLES is now also OFF

Wtf's going on in the British Isles?
By:
alist5.
When: 22 Nov 12 08:47
Into Wain - 6.40 Ke
By:
man of many moods
When: 22 Nov 12 09:23
POS CHG  FORM    NAME                              SELECTION                              RESULT         +/-       TOTAL
1▲       1010031 uptheboro                        Novel Dancer - 3.30 Ling              2nd 5/1      -1.00      £41.75
2▲       2000-10 N-east Correspondent              Belgian Bill - 6.30 Kemp              2nd 9/2      -1.00      £22.00
3▲       1030-21 josh monk                        Along Came Rosie - 2.40 Hex            pu          -1.00      £11.00
4▲       1211-31 Poppydog                          Invalid Selection (non-runner)                    -1.00       £6.28
5▲       0021-03 Ricky Santini                    Absolutely So - 12.30 Ling            Won 4/5f      0.80       £4.80
6   +6  233p-11 scissors (5)                      Fav 2.30: 3 York Glory - Ling          Won 7/2jf      3.50       £3.72
7   +1  n132-32 Horny38DD                        Absolutely So - 12.30 Ling            Won 4/5f      0.80       £3.42
8   -2  1222-31 Earth To Mickey (6)              LRF IRE: Silver Tassie - 3.45 Fairy    lost        -1.00       £2.90
9   -2  0111-uf grey shark                        Madam Lilibet - 12.40 Hex              lost        -1.00       £2.49
10   +5  f12p-31 Aquarius                          Rupert Bear - 3.40 Hex                Won 3/1f      3.00       £1.90
11       03123p3 caress                            Absolutely So - 12.30 Ling            Won 4/5f      0.80       £1.56
12   +2  3201-30 the pretender                    Aegaeus-3.00 Ling                      Won 5/4f      1.25       £0.59
13   -4  0010-30 angeleyz                          bonnie burnett - 1.40 hex              lost        -1.00       £0.35
14   +2  2032000 madhatter                        York Glory - 2.30 Ling                Won 7/2jf      3.50       £0.25
15   -5  0300000 sixtwosix                        Valencha - 6.30 Kemp                  lost        -1.00       £0.00
16   -3  0110-03 Draw 1                            Validus - 6.30 Kemp                    lost        -1.00      -£0.83
17   +2  111f-30 mini me (1)                      Samson Collonges 3.10 Hex              Won 7/4f      1.75      -£3.16
18   -1  2131n00 la mallatierre (3)                Rangi - 5:00 Kemp                      2nd 10/11    -1.00      -£4.95
19   -1  0212-10 *travelling man                  Sirius Prospect - 6.30 Kemp            3rd 8/1      -1.00      -£5.00
20   +4  131p-10 The Fruity Kiwi and his Gerbil    Aegaeus - 3.00 Ling                    Won 5/4f      1.25      -£6.78
21   -1  0000-3d tryoffagain                      Derwentwater - 6.00 Kemp              lost        -1.00      -£6.80
22   +3  010d-13 kwalker                          King Of Kudos - 1.00 Ling              Won 5/4f      1.25      -£7.12
23   -1  012p01n flyingbolt                        Kapga De Cerisy - 2.20 Warw            nr            0.00      -£7.34
24   -3  1nf1-d1 MOB                              No Selection                                      -1.00      -£8.09
25   -2  301p-02 elvissss                          Caught In The Act - 2.40 Hex          pu          -1.00      -£8.54
26▼       0100030 Grok                              My Gigi - 1.00 Ling                    LAST        -1.00    -£10.98 Cry
27▼       0100000 bluenose7                        Novel Dancer - 3.30 Ling              2nd 5/1      -1.00    -£11.00
28▼       0021-00 LordyLordy                        Silly Billy - 1.30 Ling                3rd 20/1    -1.00    -£12.50
29▼       ddd0-0d raspberrybottom (1)              No Selection                                      -1.00    -£12.50
30▼       r200-00 alist5                            Moderator - 7.0 ke                    lost        -1.00    -£16.17
By:
Aquarius
When: 22 Nov 12 10:07
Midnight Sail - 2.10 Market Rasen
By:
Poppydog.
When: 22 Nov 12 10:51
Lean Burn - 3:40 Market Rasen

Thanks A Bunch
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 22 Nov 12 10:53
For la mallatiere:

Changing Times - 1:40 Market Rasen
By:
Poppydog.
When: 22 Nov 12 10:53
Just seen the table.

What on earth is an Invalid Selection (Non Runner)?
By:
travelling man
When: 22 Nov 12 11:00
Monturgeon - 1.40 MRas

Thanks.
By:
Tightfisted
When: 22 Nov 12 11:17
Schoolmaster - 5.40 Kemp

for GROK
By:
grey shark
When: 22 Nov 12 11:33
Flichity - 3.10 Market Rasen
By:
raspberrybottom
When: 22 Nov 12 12:00
Sugarformyhoney - 7.40 Kempton

Thanks.
By:
caress
When: 22 Nov 12 12:03
caress & horny38DD  ~

Changing Times - 1.40 Market Rasen 

Thanks
By:
uptheboro
When: 22 Nov 12 12:08
RulesnRegulations - 7.40 Kempton

Cheers MommHappy
By:
man of many moods
When: 22 Nov 12 12:13
Hi Poppydog. Sorry, I meant to write an explanation.

Unfortunately Secret Rebel was declared a non-runner and taken out of the Betfair market over 3½ hours before you posted it as a selection. So, in fairness to everyone it can't be allowed to stand as a non-runner.

Always best to check before posting. I've made the same mistake myself in the past.
By:
josh monk
When: 22 Nov 12 12:44
Red Hot Poker - 2.40 Market Rasen
By:
angeleyz
When: 22 Nov 12 13:03
prime exhibit - 6.10 kempton
ty momm
By:
Poppydog.
When: 22 Nov 12 13:33
Well it's a little bit disappointing -  in about a dozen years of Naps Tables, I've never been penalised for a Non-Runner before.

I chose it late morning when doing my bets for the day,as it was in my notebook after it's decent performance the week before.
It was:
a) still in the market betting
b) Fav for it's race
c) tipped by the RPost
I didn't post it until I managed to get back to a laptop in the afternoon, knowing it was an evening meeting.

Like I said, never penalised for a Non-Runner ever before. When did the Rules change?
By:
sixtwosix
When: 22 Nov 12 13:42
Front Rank - 3.40 Market Rasen

thanks
By:
look - it's snowing
When: 22 Nov 12 13:43
the fruity kiwi & his gerbil:

Hurry Up George - 7.10 Kempton

mini me:

Endeavour - 3.40 Market Rasen
By:
N-east Correspondent
When: 22 Nov 12 14:16
Spensley - 6.40 Kempton

thanks
By:
bluenose7
When: 22 Nov 12 14:33
Into Wain - 6.40 Kemp.

Thx's.  Wink
By:
elvissss
When: 22 Nov 12 15:58
Hurry Up George - 7.10 Kempton

Ty
By:
old applejack
When: 22 Nov 12 16:10
for Earth To Mickey

Triple Charm - 7.10 Kempton
By:
tryoffagain
When: 22 Nov 12 16:52
Estedaama - 6.40 Kemp
By:
man of many moods
When: 23 Nov 12 08:41
Poppydog, the Rules haven't changed and you haven't been penalised for a non-runner. You posted a selection that wasn't in the race at the time you posted it! Therefore it is invalid.

I made it VERY clear during the first week of the month in several posts which you must have read that it is the responsibility of players to make sure that their selection hasn't already been withdrawn, otherwise it would be open to manipulation by unscrupulous players.

Genuine mistakes happen, as indeed I'm sure yours was by your explanation, but in fairness to the other players it can't be allowed to stand as a non-runner when you were over 3½ hours late with posting it.

I imagine the reason it's not mentioned in the Rules is that it's common sense. Quite obviously players can't select a horse which isn't going to run, whether it's because of an abandoned meeting or it's been withdrawn or whatever. But as Shane pointed out earlier in the month, it can be a grey area when the time of posting is very close to the time of withdrawal, and it's up to individual settlers to judge what they deem to be a fair margin of error. Which is why I always allow a very generous margin of about 15 to 20 minutes between the time of the selection being withdrawn from the Betfair market and the time of posting. But looking at recent Premier results, I see that Shane allows a margin of at least 1½ hours which is extremely generous in my opinion, so maybe it's time that the situation was clarified in the Rules so everyone knows exactly where they stand.

It's a very rare occurrence by the way. To have it happen twice in Div 2 in the same month is remarkable. Most months it doesn't happen at all.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 23 Nov 12 09:17
Morning

At the moment i don`t penalise anyone for selecting non-runners after they have been pulled out. The only day i really check is the final day. I`m happy that everyone in the premier competes in the correct spirit. I myself have selected a n/r over an hour after it was pulled, obviously i didn`t realise at the time as i`d be the last to try that.

Take yesterday for example, many n/r`s in the premier with a meeting called-off, they had all day to re-select but from memory only hong kong fooey & Fidway did, very negative in some cases i`m sure. On the flip side maybe some don`t have continued access to the internet through the day? Who knows.

So, as mentioned before it`s down to the individual settler how they police these matters as the premier division is a different animal on many fronts. You`ve made things clear in the past momms so i see no reason why anyone competing in Div 2 can feel hard done by. If that`s your interpretation of the rules then all in Div2 must abide by them.

I always engage in conversation (posts) on all issues in the premier and they all know i value consistency in settling. In short everyone knows where they stand.
By:
Poppydog.
When: 23 Nov 12 13:18
Man Of Many Moods,
Thanks for clearing that up.

Now I know, I'll double check before typing. It was just the surprise at it never having happened before.
Nevertheless, if I lose out on promotion in a week's time by a point or less, I shall resort to Twitter and Social Media
to calm my fury:

#manofmanymoodswearsdresses
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 23 Nov 12 13:20
Don`t forget the syrup Laugh
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