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Lui Rei - 4.25 Ascot.
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A pleasure bluenose and thanks for getting this up - I got distracted! 
Not another bleedin winner 
Maarek - 4:25 Ascot
Thanks Reg,
Maarek - 4:25 Ascot
Thanks Reg,
Fraid not blue - flippin non-runner (otherwise it would deffo have won!). And I ws out most of the day so nowt I could do about it. Still, least I don't lose a point!
Still, least I don't lose a point!
| POS | CHG | FORM | NAME | SELECTION | RESULT | +/- | TOTAL | ||
| 1▲ | 0130021 | Monte Christo | Mijhaar - 16:25 Ascot | 3rd | -1.00 | £18.25 | |||
| 2▲ | 1101110 | elvissss | Ballybanks - 17:20 M Rsn | Lost | -1.00 | £17.38 | |||
| 3▲ | 0302100 | Reged | Danadana - 16:25 Ascot | Non-runner | 0.00 | £16.00 | |||
| 4▲ | 2410002 | Ardross66 | Minimise Risk - 17:00 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | £7.25 | |||
| 5▲ | 0d12000 | seconds | Dynamic Duo - 19:30 Newm | Non-runner | 0.00 | £4.50 | |||
| 6 | +4 | 01-0200 | dukeofpuke | Bubbly Bellini - 18:35 Lim | 1st 9/4 | 2.25 | £3.28 | ||
| 7 | 00-00n0 | lagmorian (4) | Barnet Fair - 20:50 Ayr | Non-runner | 0.00 | £3.25 | |||
| 8 | -2 | 01-0211 | Earth To Mickey | The Real Article - 20:45 Lim | Lost | -1.00 | £2.38 | ||
| 9 | +3 | 0112004 | zipper | Newfangled - 14:30 Ascot | 1st 7/4 | 1.66 | £2.04 | ** 5p R4 | |
| 10 | -2 | 0120020 | pension fund | Mijhaar - 16:25 Ascot | 3rd | -1.00 | £1.50 | ||
| 11 | -2 | 2002020 | bluenose7 | Ed De Gas - 17:00 Ascot | 3rd | -1.00 | £0.50 | ||
| 12 | -1 | 0n-0320 | shanelee1966 (2) | Noble Mission - 15:05 Ascot | 2nd | -1.00 | £0.00 | ||
| 13 | +1 | 12-0000 | Cloughie1 | Kingston Jamaica - 17:30 Lim | 1st 1/2 | 0.50 | -£2.65 | ||
| 14 | -1 | 10-1201 | DAN1974 (9) | LRF: Fourth Generation - 21:20 Ayr | 2nd | -1.00 | -£3.50 | ||
| 15 | 0000013 | bosstipper | Imperial Djay - 17:35 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£5.60 | |||
| 16 | 1n-0000 | KBGJ | Minimise Risk - 17:00 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£6.25 | |||
| 17 | +3 | 2030011 | Tightfisted (1) | Gatewood - 16:25 Ascot | 1st 3/1 | 3.00 | -£6.38 | ||
| 18 | -1 | d0-1210 | miscreant man | Tmaam - 19:55 Good | 2nd | -1.00 | -£7.97 | ||
| 19 | -1 | 02-0000 | Horny38DD (1) | Decent Fella - 17:35 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£8.49 | ||
| 20 | +1 | 00-0220 | Lotone (10) | FRF: Mad Jazz - 14:10 Redc | 1st 11/10 | 1.10 | -£8.90 | ||
| 21 | -2 | 00-0d20 | pumphol | Global Village - 17:35 Ascot | 4th | -1.00 | -£10.00 | ||
| 22 | 00-2000 | caress (1) | Tariq Too - 17:35 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£11.88 | |||
| 23 | 0000200 | warhan | Emilio Largo - 17:35 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£12.00 | |||
| 24 | d0-1002 | MOB | Tmaam - 19:55 Good | 2nd | -1.00 | -£13.93 | |||
| 25 | 01-0000 | Kingmambo | Starscope - 15:45 Ascot | 2nd | -1.00 | -£14.63 | |||
| 26 | dd-dddd | bluebrazilman | No Selection | -1.00 | -£15.00 | ||||
| 27 | 30-0000 | madhatter | Retrieve - 16:25 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£15.50 | |||
| 28 | 0300000 | top2rated | Gouray Girl - 20:05 Newm | 2nd | -1.00 | -£16.50 | |||
| 29 | 00-0000 | Trusty | Belgian Bill - 17:35 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£18.00 | |||
| 30 | dd-dddd | Virgin | No Selection | -1.00 | -£20.00 | ||||
| dd-ddd | cab | RETIRED | RETIRED | ||||||
| DFCIRONMAN | RETIRED | RETIRED |
found out that my selection was ineligable this afternoon as it was made after the one hour rule for newsboys nap so in fact i had a 7/4 winner reged 
Tightfisted takes what few "honours" were going today with his third winner in a row, the 3/1 Gatewood at Ascot. But, with three non-runners among them, it was all quiet at the top apart from dukeofpuke landing a 9/4 nap: not quite the champagne winner its name suggests, but enough to place him tantalisingly close to the promo zone. Pretty quiet down the bottom too - c'mon Trusty & Co, where's those 20/1 blockbusters I asked for?
Good luck tomorrow folks.
Good luck tomorrow folks.
no worries, i usually try to check the paper before i put up a selection but didnt get a chance today and he napped in the first
obviously I meant 4.25 R Ascot....although the way I am picking them mine could have a 5 minute head start and still lose!
Okay, my bad. Hope this one's OK
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| POS | CHG | FORM | NAME | SELECTION | RESULT | +/- | TOTAL | ||
| 1▲ | 0130021 | Monte Christo | Mijhaar - 16:25 Ascot | 3rd | -1.00 | £18.25 | |||
| 2▲ | 1101110 | elvissss | Ballybanks - 17:20 M Rsn | Lost | -1.00 | £17.38 | |||
| 3▲ | 0302100 | Reged | Danadana - 16:25 Ascot | Non-runner | 0.00 | £16.00 | |||
| 4▲ | 2410002 | Ardross66 | Minimise Risk - 17:00 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | £7.25 | |||
| 5▲ | +2 | 00-00n0 | lagmorian (5) | Newsboy: Newfangled - 14:30 Ascot | 1st 7/4 | 1.66 | £4.91 | ** 5p R4 | |
| 6 | -1 | 0d12000 | seconds | Dynamic Duo - 19:30 Newm | Non-runner | 0.00 | £4.50 | ||
| 7 | +3 | 01-0200 | dukeofpuke | Bubbly Bellini - 18:35 Lim | 1st 9/4 | 2.25 | £3.28 | ||
| 8 | -2 | 01-0211 | Earth To Mickey | The Real Article - 20:45 Lim | Lost | -1.00 | £2.38 | ||
| 9 | +3 | 0112004 | zipper | Newfangled - 14:30 Ascot | 1st 7/4 | 1.66 | £2.04 | ** 5p R4 | |
| 10 | -2 | 0120020 | pension fund | Mijhaar - 16:25 Ascot | 3rd | -1.00 | £1.50 | ||
| 11 | -2 | 2002020 | bluenose7 | Ed De Gas - 17:00 Ascot | 3rd | -1.00 | £0.50 | ||
| 12 | -1 | 0n-0320 | shanelee1966 (2) | Noble Mission - 15:05 Ascot | 2nd | -1.00 | £0.00 | ||
| 13 | +1 | 12-0000 | Cloughie1 | Kingston Jamaica - 17:30 Lim | 1st 1/2 | 0.50 | -£2.65 | ||
| 14 | -1 | 10-1201 | DAN1974 (9) | LRF: Fourth Generation - 21:20 Ayr | 2nd | -1.00 | -£3.50 | ||
| 15 | 0000013 | bosstipper | Imperial Djay - 17:35 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£5.60 | |||
| 16 | 1n-0000 | KBGJ | Minimise Risk - 17:00 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£6.25 | |||
| 17 | +3 | 2030011 | Tightfisted (1) | Gatewood - 16:25 Ascot | 1st 3/1 | 3.00 | -£6.38 | ||
| 18 | -1 | d0-1210 | miscreant man | Tmaam - 19:55 Good | 2nd | -1.00 | -£7.97 | ||
| 19 | -1 | 02-0000 | Horny38DD (1) | Decent Fella - 17:35 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£8.49 | ||
| 20 | +1 | 00-0220 | Lotone (10) | FRF: Mad Jazz - 14:10 Redc | 1st 11/10 | 1.10 | -£8.90 | ||
| 21 | -2 | 00-0d20 | pumphol | Global Village - 17:35 Ascot | 4th | -1.00 | -£10.00 | ||
| 22 | 00-2000 | caress (1) | Tariq Too - 17:35 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£11.88 | |||
| 23 | 0000200 | warhan | Emilio Largo - 17:35 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£12.00 | |||
| 24 | d0-1002 | MOB | Tmaam - 19:55 Good | 2nd | -1.00 | -£13.93 | |||
| 25 | 01-0000 | Kingmambo | Starscope - 15:45 Ascot | 2nd | -1.00 | -£14.63 | |||
| 26 | dd-dddd | bluebrazilman | No Selection | -1.00 | -£15.00 | ||||
| 27 | 30-0000 | madhatter | Retrieve - 16:25 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£15.50 | |||
| 28 | 0300000 | top2rated | Gouray Girl - 20:05 Newm | 2nd | -1.00 | -£16.50 | |||
| 29 | 00-0000 | Trusty | Belgian Bill - 17:35 Ascot | Lost | -1.00 | -£18.00 | |||
| 30 | dd-dddd | Virgin | No Selection | -1.00 | -£20.00 | ||||
| dd-ddd | cab | RETIRED | RETIRED | ||||||
| DFCIRONMAN | RETIRED | RETIRED |
All of which means lagmorian, helped by his NBF Newsboy, sneaks into the promo zone accidentally on purpose, and dukeofpuke aint quite as close to promotion as might otherwise have been the case. 
Sorry for that.
Sorry for that.
Sir Reginald - 4.25 Asc
Thanks Reged; it's a long way from the bottom to the top so here's hoping we can get there in one go!
Hate all those stupid instructions. Think the organisers should consider only a very simple instruction FRF or LRF and that's it. All these tipsters instructions are a lot to manage imo. Very honest of lag to come forward and disqualify his own selection. 6 meetings 40 odd tipsters. AGG AGG AGG and I am not settling.
Thanks Reged; it's a long way from the bottom to the top so here's hoping we can get there in one go!
Hate all those stupid instructions. Think the organisers should consider only a very simple instruction FRF or LRF and that's it. All these tipsters instructions are a lot to manage imo. Very honest of lag to come forward and disqualify his own selection. 6 meetings 40 odd tipsters. AGG AGG AGG and I am not settling.
I had no idea how complicated it could get when I started this Trusty. I've actually done a decision flowchart mapping out all the questions that have to be answered before the final pick can be entered - looks like a map of a circuit board! I've managed to automate a fair bit of it but, obviously, there's still a way to go!
"Very honest of lag to come forward and disqualify his own selection."
Indeed it was, although I would have been just as honest if it meant replacing a non-runner with a winner!
Indeed it was, although I would have been just as honest if it meant replacing a non-runner with a winner!
Anyway - enough of this. 20/1 winners please everyone! Trusty, I want a 30/1 out of you!
Reggy/all - For what it`s worth i feel instructions should be simplified ie first or last race fav or even last race fav only. Doesn`t affect me too much in the premier though a few problems have arisen. Seems more work in Div 3 for different reasons.
If someone has Newsboy`s nap you have to check it every day no matter what against the time of the selection and if they post their time etc. Even first race fav can cause trouble.
If someone has Newsboy`s nap you have to check it every day no matter what against the time of the selection and if they post their time etc. Even first race fav can cause trouble.
Well as I say shane, it can be automated - I just haven't finished doing the necessary. But I actually agree that I don't really like instructions per se. Hardly makes it a test of personal napping ability does it?
Maybe "REGED" the placepot rules when there's a N.R.
Nap goes on the fav of the NAP race.
Nap goes on the fav of the NAP race.
Maybe bluenose, but NR's aint so bad because at least you don't lose a point. It's when there's no selection for one reason or another, that's the prob area.
blue - two different situations there n/r`s and instructions, though a decent idea.
Reg - not sure what you mean automated instructions ?
Reg - not sure what you mean automated instructions ?
Instructions... should be extended to 31 days for those who can afford to take month long vacations... like zipper. 
Elusivity
16:25 Asct
Elusivity
16:25 Asct
Well, when I've got it all hunky dory I'll clue you in Shane. Got a few time-saving ideas I'm working on. Problem is I get distracted by things like family, friends, drinking, eating - you know, life! Bloody nuisance sometimes
...and anyone in any Division that puts up Black Caviar should be subject to a 20PT deduction for being a James Hunt.
Have a good day.
Have a good day.
Mmmm, do I want to join Trusty's James Hunt club? Mmmmmmm ...
Reged 23 Jun 12 09:10
. . . I don't really like instructions per se. Hardly makes it a test of personal napping ability does it?
No it doesn't. You're absolutely right. But how do you ever know on what basis anyone makes a selection? Can you ever be sure that a selection was personally chosen by any player?
You can't. So the first question is whether or not instructions should be allowed at all.
There are any number of reasons why a player may not be able to post a selection, and I think most of us would agree that instructions should be allowed, and that the number allowed per month should be restricted, which it is.
I think we've all at some time thought "You lucky bugger" when a 9/2 LRF goes in and the player shoots up 10 places as a result. There's an element of feeling hard done by. But there really shouldn't be.
The essence of any instruction is that it must be a selection which the player could have made himself had he been able to do so. But the fact that it was randomly selected makes us view it differently. It's illogical, but human nature.
So, the only real question is what Instructions should be allowed.
I had intended to draw up some guidelines this month and circulate them to the other settlers for discussion, but I haven't even had time to make a start on it yet.
But I have given it some thought and it seems to me that the decsion about what instructions to accept or decline should probably be left up to the settler of each division. After all, he's the one giving up his time, and instructions can be unneccessarily time-consuming sometimes. It doesn't take very long to to update the spreadsheet every day, but instructions can double that time if there's a lot of them to check. It may even be a barrier to new settlers coming forward if they think it's overly complicated.
The default instruction of Last Race Favourite is the easiest one to deal with of course, and as a random way of chosing a selection it's as good as any other and better than nothing.
So to what extent and on what basis should other instructions be considered?
And do the wishes of the players themselves matter?
Or is the settler's time and convenience the only thing which should be considered?
Personally I have no problem accepting pretty much any instruction in Div2 and I've always done my best to accomodate everyone. But I've been lucky in that the majority of players with instructions always post their selection well before the 1hr Rule comes into play, or they don't post at all if they've missed the deadline. I rarely have to do any checking.
But other settlers may not be quite so fortunate; hence my suggestion that perhaps it should be left to the discretion of each individual settler in each divison.
. . . I don't really like instructions per se. Hardly makes it a test of personal napping ability does it?
No it doesn't. You're absolutely right. But how do you ever know on what basis anyone makes a selection? Can you ever be sure that a selection was personally chosen by any player?
You can't. So the first question is whether or not instructions should be allowed at all.
There are any number of reasons why a player may not be able to post a selection, and I think most of us would agree that instructions should be allowed, and that the number allowed per month should be restricted, which it is.
I think we've all at some time thought "You lucky bugger" when a 9/2 LRF goes in and the player shoots up 10 places as a result. There's an element of feeling hard done by. But there really shouldn't be.
The essence of any instruction is that it must be a selection which the player could have made himself had he been able to do so. But the fact that it was randomly selected makes us view it differently. It's illogical, but human nature.
So, the only real question is what Instructions should be allowed.
I had intended to draw up some guidelines this month and circulate them to the other settlers for discussion, but I haven't even had time to make a start on it yet.
But I have given it some thought and it seems to me that the decsion about what instructions to accept or decline should probably be left up to the settler of each division. After all, he's the one giving up his time, and instructions can be unneccessarily time-consuming sometimes. It doesn't take very long to to update the spreadsheet every day, but instructions can double that time if there's a lot of them to check. It may even be a barrier to new settlers coming forward if they think it's overly complicated.
The default instruction of Last Race Favourite is the easiest one to deal with of course, and as a random way of chosing a selection it's as good as any other and better than nothing.
So to what extent and on what basis should other instructions be considered?
And do the wishes of the players themselves matter?
Or is the settler's time and convenience the only thing which should be considered?
Personally I have no problem accepting pretty much any instruction in Div2 and I've always done my best to accomodate everyone. But I've been lucky in that the majority of players with instructions always post their selection well before the 1hr Rule comes into play, or they don't post at all if they've missed the deadline. I rarely have to do any checking.
But other settlers may not be quite so fortunate; hence my suggestion that perhaps it should be left to the discretion of each individual settler in each divison.
Morning Tightfist zips on one long holiday retired in my thirties from the rat race you get a lot more fun laying / backing winners than drawing a wage ..
YES! I do want to join. because:
a. I'm a lazy, spineless, ne'er do well
b. A few pennies is better than no pennies at all, or even minus 100 pennies
c. I think I should do my bit to welcome this super-horse sent by our antipodean cousins to these shores for our enjoyment
d. I'm far too busy today to find that 20/1 winner. Next week for that
e. Since I am the settler, I have no intention of paying attention to Trusty's demand to deduct 20 pts from myself
e. Winding Trusty up is so much fun!
f. It's a free country, unless you're Welsh (oops, just remembered, I'm Welsh by birth!)
g. There is no g
So -
Black Caviar, Ascot 3.45
Just one question Trusty: what are the benefits of joining the JH club?
a. I'm a lazy, spineless, ne'er do well
b. A few pennies is better than no pennies at all, or even minus 100 pennies
c. I think I should do my bit to welcome this super-horse sent by our antipodean cousins to these shores for our enjoyment
d. I'm far too busy today to find that 20/1 winner. Next week for that
e. Since I am the settler, I have no intention of paying attention to Trusty's demand to deduct 20 pts from myself
e. Winding Trusty up is so much fun!
f. It's a free country, unless you're Welsh (oops, just remembered, I'm Welsh by birth!)
g. There is no g
So -
Black Caviar, Ascot 3.45
Just one question Trusty: what are the benefits of joining the JH club?
Think you might have another winner on your hands there Reged.
Jeez, ya think so Monte? I'm a bit worried cos I see Shane's taken it on
Would you mind Reged if i dropped you an e-mail as I'm going to help out with settling in September to help you guys out ?
Shane has already forwarded a spreadsheet to help me get used to but I've a few questions I'd like to ask if that's ok.
I had you down as a decent bloke Reged but you've lost all credibility now.
Glad she won tbh though i doubt we'll see her race here again.
Nope, She's going straight back home apparently. They had a scare ... dont want another one!
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