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DIVISION 3 SELECTIONS MONDAY JUN 18

Reged

17 Jun 12 19:19

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Reged When: 17 Jun 12 19:41

dukeofpuke - in case you miss my message on Sunday's thread:

duke, that part of settling is done automatically, but as I understand the way it works your stake is halved and your return on that, therefore, is the halved stake times the odds, in your case 0.5 * 6 = 3.

BUT you LOSE the other half of your stake to the bookie, so the NET return is actually 2.50. I'll double check tho.

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Reged When: 17 Jun 12 19:42

shane ... am I right?

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Shanelee1966 When: 17 Jun 12 20:02

Reg - Settled at full sp, but only half the stake as only half the bet was correct.

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Shanelee1966 When: 17 Jun 12 20:05

A 6/1 winner would improve the total by £2.50

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Shanelee1966 When: 17 Jun 12 20:07

A 3/1 winner that dead heats is the equivalent of an evens straight winner

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Reged When: 17 Jun 12 20:46

Thanks shane ... I think what a lot of people don't get is that you lose half your stake (or 2/3 in a three-way DH) - ie the other party to the bet takes it - because that part of the bet is regarded as lost. Certainly on betfair it means that on a very short-priced winner in a dead heat you can actually end up with a net losing bet.

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Shanelee1966 When: 17 Jun 12 20:55

4. My Selection Dead Heated!
Pity! The return is not as much, as half your stake is lost, but it's still better than a loser!
Simply convert the returned price to a dead heated price.

For example a 3/1 Dead Heat is the same as an Even Money winner
This is logical as if you stake £1 on a 3/1, half your stake is lost i.e. 50p, but the other half goes on the 3/1 winner to return £2 Or put another way.... £1 on the Even Money = £2
Think of a 2/1 as 2 over 1, so 2 = the top of the price and 1 = equals the bottom of the price. This is how to convert a price:

(Top of Price) = (Top of Price Added to Bottom of Price Minus The Figure Below)

(Bottom of Price) = (Bottom of Price Multiplied By Number of Dead Heaters)

For our 3/1 it reads:
3 2
over becomes over
1 2
NB You must calculate the bottom of the new price first, 1 (bottom of price) x 2 (no. of dead heaters). Then You can calculate the top ( 3 + 1 = 4, 4 - 2 = 2)

Try these: 6/1 becomes 5/2, ( 1 x 2 ) = 2 below ( 7 - 2 ) = 5
7/2 becomes 5/4, ( 2 x 2 ) = 4 below ( 9 - 4 ) = 5.

An alternative method for a dead heat, is to knock one of the decimal price and divide this by 2.
Decimal 7/1 is 7. Then minus 1 = 6, then divide by 2 = 3, so this is 3/1.
Decimal 6/1 is 6. Then minus 1 = 5, then divide by 2 = 2.5, so this is 2.5 to 1, which is 5/2

Just googled to confirm Reg.

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madhatter When: 17 Jun 12 21:49

Great Shot 8.10 Windsor please reged

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pension fund When: 17 Jun 12 22:50

Myplacelater - 7.55. Warwick

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Reged When: 17 Jun 12 23:07

POS	CHG	FORM	NAME	SELECTION	RESULT	+/-	TOTAL
1▲		0200101	Monte Christo	Soon - 15:50 Cork	3rd	-1.00	£13.75
2▲	+2	0310124	Ardross66	Quiz Mistress - 14:20 Sal	1st 7/2	3.50	£12.25
3▲	-1	1112003	Reged	Hamilton Hill - 14:20 Sal	Lost	-1.00	£10.00
4▲	-1	-20nn11	elvissss	Partner - 15:35 Donc	Lost	-1.00	£9.38
5▲	+2	010210d	seconds	Chigun - 15:25 Sal	1st 9/4	2.25	£8.50
6	-1	0220101	pension fund	Our Jonathan - 16:00 Sal	2nd	-1.00	£6.50
7	+1	-011000	lagmorian (3)	No Selection		0.00	£6.25
8	-2	1101320	bluenose7	Icy Blue - 16:40 Donc	Lost	-1.00	£5.50
9		2101201	dukeofpuke	No Selection		0.00	£5.03
10		002200n	shanelee1966 (2)	No Selection		0.00	£5.00
11		0122001	zipper	Naabegha - 14:50 Sal	1st 2/1	2.00	£4.38
12		-120312	Cloughie1	No Selection		0.00	£0.85
13		-10031n	KBGJ	No Selection		0.00	-£1.25
14		-1n1002	Horny38DD (1)	No Selection		0.00	-£3.49
15	+1	-0d1010	DAN1974 (4)	No Selection		0.00	-£4.50
16	-1	-n10000	bosstipper	Our Phylli Vera - 17:35 Sal	Lost	-1.00	-£5.00
16	+1	-300000	pumphol	No Selection		0.00	-£5.00
18		-120201	Earth To Mickey	No Selection		0.00	-£6.00
19	+1	-022000	Lotone (7)	No Selection		0.00	-£6.00
20	+1	-000000	caress (1)	No Selection		0.00	-£6.88
21	-3	2002000	warhan	Saratoga Slew - 17:05 Sal	Lost	-1.00	-£7.00
22		-000001	Kingmambo	No Selection		0.00	-£9.63
23	+1	00000dd	bluebrazilman	No Selection		0.00	-£10.00
24	+1	0230030	madhatter	No Selection		0.00	-£10.50
24	+1	-0010d0	MOB	No Selection		0.00	-£10.50
26	-3	011n020	Tightfisted (1)	RP losing streak: Definightly - 16:00 Sal	3rd	-1.00	-£10.75
27	-2	0330203	top2rated	Collateral Damage - 16:40 Donc	Lost	-1.00	-£11.50
28		-200000	Trusty	No Selection		0.00	-£13.00
29		10000d0	miscreant man	Invalid selection		0.00	-£13.27
30		200d0dd	Virgin	No Selection		0.00	-£15.00
		dd-ddd	cab	RETIRED	RETIRED
			DFCIRONMAN	RETIRED	RETIRED

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Reged When: 17 Jun 12 23:15

Three modest winners on a quiet Sunday, but Ardross66's 7/2 winner puts him up to second, talking of which seconds inched into the promo zone with a 9/4 winner. And, er, that's about it really

Good luck today everyone!

miscreant man, your selection was invalid because the rules state that the only exceptions to UK and Ire meetings are the Dubai festival and the arc de triomphe meet. Sorry bout that, although since the nag lost and it was a Sunday, it made no difference.

Lotone, hope you saw the message I left you yesterday.

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top2rated When: 18 Jun 12 04:41

Satwa Laird 2.00 Wolv

Thanks.

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Shanelee1966 When: 18 Jun 12 07:39

Pivotal Prospect - 3:45 Carlisle

Thanks Reggy,

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Tightfisted When: 18 Jun 12 10:21

Supreme Quest
17:00 Wolv

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caress When: 18 Jun 12 10:23

caress ~ Urban Space 6.10 Windsor

Horny38DD ~ Thackeray 4.45 Carlisle

Thanks

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Ardross66 When: 18 Jun 12 10:24

5.00 Wol - Supreme Quest
Cheers

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MOB When: 18 Jun 12 11:07

Nabucco - 8.40 Wind please

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bosstipper When: 18 Jun 12 11:36

dorry k - 4.15 car

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zipper When: 18 Jun 12 11:46

Seven Veils 4.00 Wolver no hiding this one .lump on

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seconds When: 18 Jun 12 12:12

Uprise 4.30 wolv

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Cloughie1 When: 18 Jun 12 12:15

Drumpellier 2:45 Carlisle

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Lotone When: 18 Jun 12 12:21

sandbetweenourtoes 2:00 Wolves Tnx Reged

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lagmorian When: 18 Jun 12 12:31

Cocohatchee - 7.40 windsor

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zipper When: 18 Jun 12 12:35

Reged... after today win lose or draw put me down as retired .

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Reged When: 18 Jun 12 12:36

But you were just getting into your stride zipper!

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Shanelee1966 When: 18 Jun 12 12:41

It`s the thought of competing against the pros at the top Reg

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zipper When: 18 Jun 12 12:41

Reged dont take the hump ...Er thats about it really ..
Zip has retired ...good luck

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Reged When: 18 Jun 12 12:47

Don't think I have got the hump!

Just sorry to see someone leave a great comp is all

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Reged When: 18 Jun 12 12:47

Mind you, that could be it shane!

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zipper When: 18 Jun 12 12:48

Shane dont take the piss ..you a pro zip would lay you an even grand you could not spell Professional .. you know the rest

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Reged When: 18 Jun 12 12:50

profeshunal isnt it?

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Shanelee1966 When: 18 Jun 12 12:53

Thought you knew me better zip

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zipper When: 18 Jun 12 12:58

Reged if thats your best shot i will lay you 2 grand .
off the record Reged i think you are a female
Shane.. well i aint nowt to say to you so lets leave it at that .... its all bent lump on

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Reged When: 18 Jun 12 13:14

If I ws to lump on anything it would be that a certain person has partaken of the spirits a tad early today

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zipper When: 18 Jun 12 13:51

Reged that would be me ..and that is a long odds on shot Why i never never drink anything none alcoholic after 8.30 am Thats why i do the 4.00pm systerm .cause by 4.00 i a m out of my brains good night god bless Thanks for running the comp your a top guy (that the last one to you )

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zipper When: 18 Jun 12 14:03

Reged should have said top guy /Girl who knows only you .
Got to go now money to be won plenty of lays 4 win bets before 4.00 pm ..wish me luck .. no dont i dont do luck.............. thats for girls

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zipper When: 18 Jun 12 14:03

Reged should have said top guy /Girl who knows only you .
Got to go now money to be won plenty of lays 4 win bets before 4.00 pm ..wish me luck .. no dont i dont do luck.............. thats for girls

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Reged When: 18 Jun 12 14:03

Cheers zipper.

Uprise Wolv 4.30

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pumphol. When: 18 Jun 12 14:42

Carlisle 5.45 Izzet

Thanks