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The Top 7 - My totally biased view
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not 100 per cent sure about pm bets, but reckon both last two posts are lay prof. greetings sire, the lengths some people will go to to protect their investments.....
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nick
Yes there's a lot of it about. |
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sick of tellinG you all about rebecca;CHOSEN ONE
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yes mate but do you have to tell me through three accounts and three different names. little excessive isnt it?
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i agree some are so blind and or have to much money to throw away
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ill tell you again rebecca wins on the snaff
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I'm late catching up with this thread - but I agree with FLL and most of the initial posts. It's been looking like a two horse race for some time now, although I do think Cowell will at least ensure that his 1D makes it a three. I'm with Jack in that the teenie vote IS still very important, but you need to appeal to a broad church to win the X Factor.
Rhydian didn't win because he didn't appeal to the young audience - whereas Leon had the support of young girls, mums and grans alike. Likewise Leona, Alexandra, Joe - they appealed to both demographics. Cher will fall foul because she only appeals to one audience too - and us oldies just don't get it! That's why it could be Matt OR Rebecca at this stage - they are bland enough to generate support across the generation gap. It might be questionable whether 1D will appeal beyond the 8-13 age group, although like JLS they'll probably attract enough of the mum support to get close to the final. |
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Agree with your thoughts on, fll.
Mary and Rebecca are surely the two that Cowell doesn't want to see win as they both reinforce the 'cliched reality show winner' assumptions whilst not having the actual star quality to be particularly useful to him. i.e Mary as a fairly poor SuBo/McManus style underdog and Rebecca as a very poor Lewis/Burke 'doesn't matter that she's boring she's a real singer' equivalent. Katie also has a nice 'real' voice but is at least interesting (albeit in a relentless carcrash kind of way) and Cher is a work in progress but clearly special... so it's not surprising that they've been afforded rings of protection for now at least. Think you've naile it on One Direction. |
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*thoughts on Mary
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Glee cast for XF semis? Good for tween/teen vote?
The cast of Glee will reportedly perform on next week's X Factor semi-final. It was previously reported that Simon Cowell was organising the appearance, which will apparently see them perform a medley of tracks from the hit show. A post on the official Twitter page for Alex and Lucy's In:Demand radio show read: "OMGlee!! The Glee cast are set to perform on X Factor. " It then added a link to Examiner, which appears to be the original source. It was announced last week that the show's cast will embark on a European tour next year, which includes five confirmed dates in the UK and Ireland. The X Factor semi-final will take place over the weekend of December 4 and 5. |
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Does sound like SC's secret recipe to get 1D there at all costs, yep
Whether it works, gawd knows. The voting audience will have a massive demographic spread by then, and that surely increases Mary's chances of making up the numbers in the final |
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Even if there's a double elimination this weekend, that will still leave four in for the final, no?!
That would make it interesting - throws a bit of a potential spanner in the works. |
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they've still not confirmed the numbers for the final weekend. Thread with ITV statement ttt'd.
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If it is a 4 way final it means all judgs may have an act each making it interesting with Louis having Mary/Wagner toss up.
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true although 4 is the big favourite
really interesting re glee, sounds like cowell is pulling out all the stops to get the teens in - should be enough to get them to the final, which will prob justify a recording contract in cowell's eyes. |
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is that similar to a mash up?
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They've purposely left Rebecca's good stuff to the end of the comp. You think she won't/can't do up-tempo numbers? Rest assured she'll be dropping the big stuff either this week or next week, from then on in the competition will be over.
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That dirge last week was surely not part of the plan though?
I agree however, it can only get (a lot) better |
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Even if 'they' were wanting to handicap her by nailing her to the spot until the end of the series it's hard to imagine she'd go along with it if she was actually a real all round performer?
She's just a voice, which in turn puts pressure on the voice, hence inconsistent results. |
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No last week was poor. hindsight says that song requires a flat voice not a wobbly one like Rebecca's, Cowell was visually disappointed....he'll be taking care of things from now on.
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I think it was telling that they didn't pan her, because they could have if they had wanted to. Reminded me a little of when Jordin Sparks had a real nightmare with the Bon Jovi theme and they just brushed it off as being not her thing, ignore it, etc.
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Last week was definitely NOT the plan. In Beatles week the Liverpudlian Lass was supposed to shine. Oops!
The fact that they've never commented on Rebecca being a one trick pony, not doing up-tempo numbers, or even attempting to move at all, proves to me that they are giving her as easy a passage to the final as possible. Unfortunately for them, last week it didn't pay off! Good on Rebecca for admitting it though - that in itself will win her support. |
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I don't agree that Cowell doesn't want Rebecca to win, jm. He loves her, but I do agree she wins or loses on her vocal.
She isn't suddenly going to knock everyone dead with a massive dance routine. |
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..and yep I agree squares. Cowell even picked her out as one of the top 3 performers on the sunday show.
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Didn't SCowell start niggling about Stacey not moving towards the end of last year?
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it's in her favour to keep the goods towards the end , she'll understand that...what can the others do to wow us? It's like Carrie Underwood on AI sang country all the way through then done heart alone there was only one winner after that.
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Unless I'm very much mistaken Cowell didn't want Stacey to win sq ;-)
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It's ridiculous though
Aiden, Mary, you do the same thing every week, do something a bit different! Rebecca, 1d I love the way you do the same thing every week  |
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Thinking Rebecca is keeping something back, is delusional.
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exactly GB, made an issue of it with Stacey but hasn't mentioned it with Rebecca - YET
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He won't
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think he is most unlikely to as well. wouldnt it be something though if they had held something back and she wowed us with uptempo. think everyone would be delighted, well, bar lou.
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She could clearly belt out a disco anthem, with 1st class production values and backing vocals
Rock a little more difficult to envisage |
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simon done it before on AI, peaking to early is never good. She will be doing up-tempo in the next 2 weeks. If it doesn't come off then fair enough that'll be it money gone, but if it does then that'll be it, winner. at 4/1 i'm more than happy to take that risk.
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Also difficult to envisage Matt in a worse position than now after two 'rock' themed songs?
A good chance that he will remind everyone why he is the likely winner this week. Matt is the competitor with something in reserve, he is clearly at home with the guitar which has only been wheeled out once. 1D will do what 1D do of course, stand on boxes, get 'help' on large parts of their track and the screamers will make them seem popular. |
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It's the XF equivalent of backing BB runners on the basis of crowd noise
A while since these things were decided by the clapometer |
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Fig my views on Cher and Rebecca are pretty much the reverse of yours so we're not going to agree there at all.
I thought your comment on One Direction was on the money. i.e. Being rightly feared as Cowell was behind them but your not being at all sure he actually wanted them to win. When I hear him voicing his enthusiasm for them breaking the mould of the expected winners of the comp, that enthusiasm seems real but is it actually directed at them or are they just the 'backup mouldbreakers'? You rightly point out their appeal beyond the teen market is limited, but also their potential appeal beyond the country is also open to question. Sure he can squeeze some 1D hits out of the fickle teen audience for a while but their main use to him might be to safely guide home a potentially far bigger international fish before (unwittingly!) falling on their swords at a late hurdle. Maybe a rotting fish  |
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The journey theory is way overdone on these things, some front runners win and some come from behind.
At some point one would have to consider backing Rebecca I suppos but I'd rather wait and see how this week pans out. At the end of the day this is an entertainment show, even if as some think, Cowell wants to nobble Matt, he is unlikely to try it in rock week were Matt could comfortably produce some smashing performances |
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Super smashing lovely. He could hit the bullseye
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You can't beat a bit of Baloney.
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