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Who would have thought it Plain

Simon Cowell knows the voting percentages each week on The X Factor and acts accordingly, it has been claimed.

The identity of the bottom two - and in the case of Deadlock the least popular act - is the only information made public during the programme. Full voting breakdowns are only published after the final show.

However, an alleged insider has told Heat magazine that Cowell is fully aware of the details of each weekly vote and alters his own actions as a judge, mentor and showrunner accordingly.

The source said: "Simon knows which contestants get the most votes each week, and some of them bring in a serious amount of financial revenue through phone votes.

"Viewers are encouraged to vote for certain acts, even when they sometimes perform below par. Contestants like Cher [Lloyd], for instance, make the show a lot of money, as she has an army of young fans who can be relied on to get their parents to vote for her every single week."

Regarding voting figures, they continued: "[Cowell] couldn't stand not to know. Sometimes he shares them with Louis [Walsh] and Cheryl [Cole], but hardly ever with Dannii [Minogue]... Because Simon's privy to the percentages of votes, he knows who is the most popular.

"Things can be unpredictable, so no-one can 100% tell who will make the finals, but he has a very clear idea every year about who is likely to make the finals, because of voting panels. That's what often makes Simon say things like, 'You're the dark horse', or 'You're the one to watch'."

A representative from SyCo was unavailable for comment on the claims.
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Report .¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((º> November 16, 2010 6:08 PM GMT
if you can't believe an 'alleged insider' in heat magazine to tell the truth who can you trust
Report A1 Bionic November 16, 2010 6:09 PM GMT
UNBELIEVABLE  Cry
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 16, 2010 6:09 PM GMT
Ahem! Exactly - funny Fishy type thing. (Good name that)
Report five leaves left November 16, 2010 6:10 PM GMT
lol the heat editor was on 5 live last week and was adamant that Cowell didn't know.
Report melv November 16, 2010 6:10 PM GMT
I just can't belive it.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report George Bailey November 16, 2010 7:18 PM GMT
I'd be surprised if he didn't know as he's a control freak by nature. That said I do recall at least once what I thought was a show of genuine surprise on his face at a result. Bit about Louis being in on it sometimes also computes as he has thrown some giveaways in over the years I think.

Bit that makes me laugh is reference to young fans getting their parents to vote. Very Blue Peter 1960s. Don't from birth these days all have mobile phones on constant redial? I thought the mums vote countered the young vote?
Report Asparagus Man November 16, 2010 8:16 PM GMT
Impossible imo - would destroy the credibility of the show.

Oh hold on...
Report Mikeeey November 16, 2010 8:18 PM GMT
Xfactor are complaining to the Press Complaints Commision about Heat mag
.
http://www.beehivecity.com/newspapers/x-factor-look-to-quell-fix-allegations-with-pcc-complaint1954352/
Report squares November 16, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
even more unbelievable Shocked

Producers of The X Factor have rejected any suggestion that Simon Cowell is aware of the voting figures on the reality talent show and have instructed media lawyers to file a formal complaint against a magazine through the Press Complaints Commission.

It was suggested in the weekly glossy that Cowell is given the full breakdown of the public vote each week and alters his actions accordingly.

Insiders said: "These allegations are completely and utterly untrue. Total lies. Simon doesn't and has never known voting figures and percentages until they are released after the final.

"There are a ridiculous number of conspiracy theories and everyone has had enough of them - they are unfounded. The show is 100% fair."

A representative from Syco tonight confirmed that formal action was proceeding through media lawyers Carter Ruck.
Report Dizzy42 November 16, 2010 9:53 PM GMT
Hilarious.  Heat only reporting what everyone always suspected (assumed?!), but didn't dare to print...

More fool them!
Report George Bailey November 16, 2010 10:21 PM GMT
Confirms he doesn't know for me. Wouldn't go to court if he knew. He would be finished professionaly.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 16, 2010 10:24 PM GMT
Dizzy

What do you think though of the reaction and sheer delight on Cowell's face, punching the air even when ONE D get called through to the next round?  I honestly don't think he knows the result and is waiting there fingers crossed as we all are to hear our act have gone through.  I really do.  He must be a terriffic actor if he already knows because he looks absolutely thrilled and delighted.
Report Helmuthian Folds November 16, 2010 10:27 PM GMT
Lou,

Surely you are not being serious?
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 16, 2010 10:31 PM GMT
George

Exactly.  I really don't think he does.  I think it's a public voting competition and he's waiting for the results, hoping his act goes through as are all of us at home who have our favourites or have backed someone to win it.
Report mach November 16, 2010 10:37 PM GMT
Cowell prob gets hourly updates from when the phone lines open LOU
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 16, 2010 10:38 PM GMT
mach

He may well do.  He may well not though.
Report Helmuthian Folds November 16, 2010 10:40 PM GMT
I 100% guarrantee it will never go to court.

Some peoples naivety is astonishing!
Report Henry VIII November 16, 2010 10:49 PM GMT
I 100% guarrantee it will never go to court.
Some peoples naivety is astonishing!


...is completely correct. All his lawyers are doing is filing a complaint.

This year and last there are too many things that would not make sense if Cowell didn't know the results before their announcement.

There's no legal problem with him being told, it's a multi-million pound business, do you really think he leaves things that he can easily control to chance?
Report Dizzy42 November 16, 2010 10:51 PM GMT
Whatever the truth, it'll never go to court and therefore never come out...  We'll never know for sure, we can only suspect!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 16, 2010 10:57 PM GMT
Henry/Dizzy

Do you see my point though about his reaction when ONE D go through.  He honestly looks so relieved and delighted to me literally punching the air.  Put on? .............. I don't think so.
Report Henry VIII November 16, 2010 11:03 PM GMT
Put on? .............. I think so.
Report GymTanLaundry November 16, 2010 11:06 PM GMT
PMSL lou!!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 16, 2010 11:07 PM GMT
Henry

Fair enough we'll beg to differ there then.
Report Jack Bauer '24' November 16, 2010 11:18 PM GMT
It's all part of the pantomime, of course he knows.
Report Dizzy42 November 16, 2010 11:18 PM GMT
Cowell's completely Machiavellian - an arch manipulator...  I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was all an act.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 16, 2010 11:20 PM GMT
Fair enough Dizzy.  Who knows? ...... no one.  Therefore we'll all go with our own thoughts.  That's fair isn't it.
Report Dizzy42 November 16, 2010 11:24 PM GMT
Yep, fair enough Lou - we'll never know for sure!
Report squares November 16, 2010 11:36 PM GMT
from OTHH's thread on Sunday night:

on Xtra Factor tonight, talking about the results, Cowell said "there were plenty of surprises tonight, not just in the bottom two". Anyone want to guess what he meant? Matt being in fourth place? Cher 0.1% above the B2? Wagner outpolling Rebecca?
I'll stop now.
Report Dizzy42 November 16, 2010 11:38 PM GMT
Very good point - I didn't pick up on that...
Report melv November 17, 2010 7:37 AM GMT
Surely nobody is doubting that its the Simon Cowell show in every way. Just watch the way the judges constantly look to Simon for approval. Especailly Louie and Cheryl. Especailly when they are being the scripted naughty boy or girl.

I think Simon takes a lot of advice from producers and other backroom people only on the basis that they are fired if they give bad advice. Or get caught doing what Simon has told em that but ends up looking bad.

Saturday afternoon wrestling was less fixed.

I do not however believe they dare actually interfere with the vote thats why the judges the comments, the editing , the media and the information on voting figures are so tightly controlled.

How do I know Simon knows the figures? How are you going to stop him?

Do I think Simon is genuinely delighted when the Boys go through. Yes. Is it a great way of encouraging the 12 year old girls to vote even more? Its one of the best. Does he know in advance. of course.
Report layprofessional November 17, 2010 9:16 AM GMT
at last u speak a little sens melv
Report layprofessional November 17, 2010 9:16 AM GMT
sense
Report layprofessional November 17, 2010 9:24 AM GMT
one question melv;why arnt the voting figures released??????????????????????????????????????????????????
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 17, 2010 9:27 AM GMT
Because we'd see every week who's winning and place bets on the leader, lay the ones at the bottom.  Let's say for arguememnts sake you knew mary was winning the vote every week.  Who would you go and back?
Report layprofessional November 17, 2010 9:32 AM GMT
possible;but im firm believer that votes r tampered with in a certain way;my god mary has to go soon terrible
Report Mikeeey November 17, 2010 9:35 AM GMT
Simon says that they don't release the figures straight away so as to protect the integrity of the show.  He also says he doesn't see the voting figures himself and that it really is a singing competition.
Report layprofessional November 17, 2010 9:36 AM GMT
do people actuall believe he doesnt know the voting figures lol
Report layprofessional November 17, 2010 9:36 AM GMT
actually
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 17, 2010 9:41 AM GMT
lay

Yes I do.
Report layprofessional November 17, 2010 9:42 AM GMT
oh dear so naive
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 17, 2010 9:55 AM GMT
lay

Yes but I think you're naive for thinking he does so I'll ask you again.  What makes you right?
Report layprofessional November 17, 2010 10:13 AM GMT
lou im in a more priveleged position than u;thats big enough clue for anyone
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 17, 2010 10:20 AM GMT
lay

Ok but Simon Cowell's my brother, Danni's my ex husband and Cheryl Cole is my eldest son didn't I tell you?

Get the picture?
Report squares November 17, 2010 10:23 AM GMT
for all those who don't think SCowell knows the voting figures, didn't he give the game away that he does with his comments on XTra Factor on Sunday night??



from OTHH's thread on Sunday night:

on Xtra Factor tonight, talking about the results, Cowell said "there were plenty of surprises tonight, not just in the bottom two". Anyone want to guess what he meant? Matt being in fourth place? Cher 0.1% above the B2? Wagner outpolling Rebecca?
I'll stop now.
Report bunnyman November 17, 2010 10:38 AM GMT
I saw Xtra Factor too and Simon did blatantly say there were surprises at the top as well as the bottom of the vote.  He has adamantly denied knowing the voting breakdown, but not as far as I know denied knowing the order in which the public ranked the acts.  Perhaps he gets the order but not the %s.
Report melv November 17, 2010 11:16 AM GMT
He doesn't need to know the percentages. But I bet if 1D was ahead by a mile the skivvy would say "Yeah Simon and 1D are ahead by a mile".

Apply the same  to any noteworthy ocurrence.
Report Henry VIII November 17, 2010 11:24 AM GMT
I don’t know what the problem is. The world is not all roses, Cowell knows the precise voting percentages whenever he wants, he controls everything, wouldn’t you in his place, we didn’t invade the middle east to fight terrorism, NASA was set up (according to 102f of it’s initial policy document) to lie about US space capabilities.

Get over it. Love
Report Angela Rebecchi November 17, 2010 12:10 PM GMT
Considering One D's previous polling I think his face gives it away when they were announced top in the 'no particular order' rundown.
Report Dizzy42 November 17, 2010 8:26 PM GMT
Bunny, that's probably right... He'll know who's polling top etc., but no need to go into percentages.  He has to - he's involved in all of the production meetings when they determine the running order etc.  We've all commented on how they ramp up certain acts, giving them the pimp slot, whilst putting those out of favour in the graveyard slot.

It's not a conspiracy - it's their job!  It's just good old fashioned stage managed Saturday night entertainment.  Nothing to get too worked up about, as long as you always bare this in mind when punting!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 17, 2010 8:29 PM GMT
Matt due the pimp slot in next 2/3 weeks.
Report melv November 18, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
Lou if Simon wanted him there are dozens of neatle song he could have have.

In 2 seconds of the top of my head.

Norwegian Wood. My fav. I couldn't possibly mention what happened on planet Melv when this song hit my gonads. And then she said "Its time for bed"oooooooooooooooooooooooLaughLoveLoveLovein the form of a blonde Melvian venus smelling of evergreen tree's.

And I love her.

Hide your love away.
Report melv November 18, 2010 5:58 PM GMT
Oneof the rougher Melvian Venii stepping form her Space ship. See her ship Mates trying to cool her down as she is far to hot for planet earth.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XUuFfxpTi84/TI1lyDuboOI/AAAAAAAAASE/q5ni-9ObDQA/s1600/botticelli_venus1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://enchantedenfant.blogspot.com/2010/09/botticelli.html&h=740&w=1182&sz=266&tbnid=WCKwXH2G3ANI-M:&tbnh=94&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbotticelli&zoom=1&q=botticelli&hl=en&usg=__JcveDogXHjysYmpSd4-SRqfGego=&sa=X&ei=SmjlTObcEMaxhAfv1oWODQ&sqi=2&ved=0CDMQ9QEwAg
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 18, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
Melev

yes so so many great songs and he gets that!  Hope he asks for something else.
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