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15 Nov 10 15:27
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On planet Melv the sign of a successful song on here is the Million a week test.  That’s a million you tube hits in 7 days.

Matt has done it twice. With “Mercy” matt is guaranted another Million week. Rebecca has not come close. With “Candle” She had the pimp slot, she’s had the iconic song (Could not sing the tune), she’s had the standing ovation, she’s had the panel begging everyone in Liverpool to vote for her; and its imposible to get the million from her hit numbers today. She needs at least 250k at this point.

I am not surprised that Matt is not doing that well this week I that “Yellow brick” was the suicide pill. But Matt has shown yet again he can nail anything. All he has to do is keep this up. When he gets a song he really like I think it’s a million every time.

I am at a disadvantage I cannot stand Rebecca. And I am a massive Billie holiday fan. I am probably mad but I think a lot of people are as daft as me and that makes Rebecca marmite. They have waited as long as they can for enough people to acquire the taste of Marmite before giving her the pimp. Nope the public still are not catching on numbers.

There is another difference between Matt and Rebecca and no-no has mentioned this. Matts versions actually sound both like the song he is singing and like Matt. Rebecca’s just sound like Rebecca. When I sing I always make the song my own…. but you wouldn’t want to hear it.

IMO when I come to the big votes and the losing fans have switched there allegiances I think Mum. Auntie and Granny public will go for the one who makes songs sound like they are supposed to sound.

I also think Rebecca is an acquired taste I do not think the  Paige Mary, Cher and one direction fans will acquire that taste in time. She could even go out early when losers transfer their allegiance to Matt.

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By:
melv
When: 15 Nov 10 15:29
Nope the public still are not catching on in numbers.
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 Nov 10 15:41
Quantity of youtube views is a very poor indicator of quality.

And it's a very poor predictor for these shows.
By:
layprofessional
When: 15 Nov 10 16:09
ffs melv i thought u had more brains;it doesnt matter a fiddlers about u tubes etc;it matters what sc wants;proof was aiden going other night;please open ur eyes and ears
By:
melv
When: 15 Nov 10 16:22
I know the is not a direct correaltion between youtube hits and who wins.
Cher should be fav if you go off youtube. I also know that Simon has a big effect on who wins. I also have never said Matt wins this this or that Rebecca cannot win this. I have not played my hand yet. Though I am on matt @ 10's.

My  reading of the runes incudes polls, whats said on here, and the market. I also read the youtube comments.

But rebbecca had better knock out a million a week hits soon. Also if Matt does another couple of Million week on the next 4 weeks rebecca is in trouble. IMO.
By:
layprofessional
When: 15 Nov 10 17:10
imo you tube etc has no bearing;COWELL DOES
By:
alfie46
When: 15 Nov 10 17:51
you tube-one way street to the poor house
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 15 Nov 10 17:54
Alfie

I'm sure it is but not exactly a bad thing to have so many hits/views on your songs is it?
By:
alfie46
When: 15 Nov 10 18:01
agreed- cant be bad to have onside but unreliable indicator. loving the betting thought process on here between either matt or rebecca winning,seems like one dimension have now entered that fray.
By:
Denman The Destroyer
When: 15 Nov 10 18:07
Well if you are so fond of youtube hits,this weeks song hits so far

Matt 154,883

Rebecca 178,298

As Lou would say....hmmmmmm
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 Nov 10 18:09
I account for 298 of Rebecca's so you can cross those off.
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 15 Nov 10 18:26
Thats two whole boxes of Kleenex Figgy [;)]
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 Nov 10 18:31
lol  I 'listen' to Blondie for that.
By:
melv
When: 15 Nov 10 18:57
Quantity of youtube views is a very poor indicator of quality.

OK here is a thought experiment. In reality I take more into account than this. But here goes.
If things stay as they are. Which is Matt with 2 more Million viewer songs and rebbecca still with none. Would you expect her price to be the same.  Would you expect fav or a drift for her?
By:
five leaves left
When: 15 Nov 10 19:16
I honestly don;t believe it would make any difference melv.

There's nothing out of the ordinary in Matt's figures or Rebbeca's
I suspect Matt is doing worse than Vickers and Rebecca is doing better than Alexandra.

It would only make a difference if the figures were out of the ordinary.
Say 5 million for Matt and couple of thousand for Rebecca.
By:
GymTanLaundry
When: 15 Nov 10 20:11
surely more recent youtube stats are more relevant than old youtube stats?  if relevant at all.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 15 Nov 10 20:16
Voters vote for who they think deserves to win, youtube views may give some indication but it’s not the same.

One thing to note is that people click on who they fancy a lot. Any youtube with a pretty girl on the still will get loads of views. I’ll bet that playboy model on IAC has many times the views of the others (if she actually has anything on youtube, I haven’t looked). Doesn’t mean she’s going to win IAC.
By:
GymTanLaundry
When: 15 Nov 10 20:22
if she actually has anything on youtube, I haven’t looked

why don't i believe that!!!!
By:
Henry VIII
When: 15 Nov 10 20:26
Laugh

Actually she's not exactly stunning, on closer analysis, if you take away the youth and the blonde hair.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 15 Nov 10 20:26
... and the tits.
By:
melv
When: 15 Nov 10 20:27
OK put it this way. Given the pimping, the ramping the ovations, Surprised they wher not playing you'll never walk alone. Given that they where trying there make this her best shot. If Matt does a couple of million over the next 4 weeks I predict Matt 6/4 and Rebbeca at least 4. And that will suit me fine.

Read my lips I never said he would win it. Hope he does but it'll probably be the Wanderers with Cowell saying "I've got 5 Beibers"
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 15 Nov 10 20:30
More like Simon saying 'I have 5 fluffers' Shocked
By:
Henry VIII
When: 15 Nov 10 20:48
That's pretty conservative melv, I think he should be 2.4 right now. And Rebecca 2.8.
By:
larrence
When: 15 Nov 10 21:56
Matt will cruise home. Cool
By:
Benjy
When: 15 Nov 10 22:14
More interesting for me is that Rebecca got Adele's version of the song up to number 9 in this weeks chart. Matt could only get Roberta Flack to 44. Silly
By:
Denman The Destroyer
When: 16 Nov 10 09:05
An update on this weeks youtube hits

Matt 197,871

Rebecca  225,757

hmmmmmm
By:
NXRBL
When: 16 Nov 10 09:13
Melv,

I have two words for your hypothesis of using youtube as an indicator of popularity...

ANDREW GARCIA
By:
melv
When: 16 Nov 10 09:13
More interesting for me is that Rebecca got Adele's version of the song up to number 9 in this weeks chart. Matt could only get Roberta Flack to 44.

Yeah and most people think Gamu sang it better. Gamu 1.2 million hits out of limelight two weeks later. Rebbecca O.5 million hits after two weeks. Pimped to fk.

Actually I think Gamu put a few amatuerish pub singer barks in and spoilt it. However that

one note was divine.

Who was that Yank celeb who made the same point at the MOBO's
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 16 Nov 10 09:14
An update on this weeks DS "Who's your favourite"

Matt 36%

Rebecca 22%

Matt a tincy wincy bit ahead!

hmmmmmm
By:
melv
When: 16 Nov 10 09:18
CryI know. I know. I know. I know.
I know. I know. I know. I know.I know.
I know. I know. I know.CryCry

But Simon and his millions absolutely assasinated Andrew.
Cowell has not tirned against Matt. Yet.

Yes I am expecting it. It is one  of the thing that is making this year quite fascinating.
By:
Denman The Destroyer
When: 16 Nov 10 09:18
Lou getting desperate now,using digital spy polls,that poll shows one direction with 6% so its very accurate then....
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 16 Nov 10 09:23
Den

How do we know it isn't accurate?  ONE D could be scraping through every week.  As could Matt (whisper it quietly but so could Rebecca)

All we know for a fact is that ONE D haven't been bottom 2.

You don't like it Denman do you someone answering you back?  I'm not getting desperate I'm on the favourite, your girls about to drop to third favourite.  Desperate are you?

hmmmmmmmm
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 16 Nov 10 09:24
NXRBL

ANDREW GARCIA

Oh I loved him in Godfather 3
By:
Denman The Destroyer
When: 16 Nov 10 09:26
He he....you are usually good for a debate Lou but you seem to be a bit infantile today...wonder why...time of the month?
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 16 Nov 10 09:32
Denman

Time of the month is for females FACT.  I'm a man.

I see you just avoid questions Denman so you're reading this right now, your fingers are at the keys so please answer ALL questions.  I'll take it you'll be 100% HONEST as what's the point of lying?

1.  Do you think Rebecca has been very very samey every week.  A slow ballad and not budging an inch from the spot?

2.  Are you being deliberately biased towards her because you've backed her?

3.  Are you being biased because she's a fellow Scouser?

4.  If you had one 'jackpot ticket' going through to the last leg for your chance to win the million, who would you place it on.

Like I said you could conveniently lie which means there's no point in this convesration.  I will believe what you say upfront in the hope that as a grown man you'll be totally honest.

Lou
By:
melv
When: 16 Nov 10 09:35
PS Gamu sang the tune. And made it her own. Drop the barking though luv you are better than than that.

Rebbecca doesn't do tunes because she can't. Billie Holliday could do tunes and put meaning in and tell a story and had more soul than she could control. Rebbecca just impersonates Billies little flourishes and slurrs but there is no content behind it. Rebbecca all fur coat . No nickers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_1LfT1MvzI

Billies voice is etched by hard and heavy experince. Rebbecca is imitation.

I like the way they are making Rebbecca up to look like Billie. Is it "Who you do?" or Xfactor.


Understandable why in Simons all fur coat world she is Queen.
By:
five leaves left
When: 16 Nov 10 10:37
I'd rather listen to a 2nd rate Billie Holliday than a 2nd rate James Blunt ;)
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 16 Nov 10 10:50
Denman

I asked you the questions over an hour ago.  Are you just avoiding them?

hmmmmmm!
By:
GymTanLaundry
When: 16 Nov 10 10:56
1.  Do you think Rebecca has been very very samey every week.  A slow ballad and not budging an inch from the spot?
Yes, but her performances have been excellent.  She could do with doing something different but Elton John didn't really allow it without doing a ridiculous song (like Paije/Katie).  For someone who goes on and on about it being a singing competition, this criticism about a lack of movement is quite astonishing.

2.  Are you being deliberately biased towards her because you've backed her?
No.  I actually don't think she'll win unless Cowell really throws his weight behind her (which he'll need to do soon), but she's fantastic, and may well shorten yet.  However, nobody is being more biased about any of the acts than you are about Matt.

3.  Are you being biased because she's a fellow Scouser?
N/A - thank the lord.

4.  If you had one 'jackpot ticket' going through to the last leg for your chance to win the million, who would you place it on.
One Direction.
By:
layprofessional
When: 16 Nov 10 11:10
to those thick ones that dont know yet;REBECCA I REPEAT REBECCA I REPEAT REBECCA HAS THE BEST VOICE AND IS COWELLS CHOSEN ONE;FACT;FACT;FACT;I KNOW
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