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iagree totally,extreme thanks
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charlatan misses the point
of youth players not getting chances to play and develop because of foreign players "plugging" the system but they do get to play at lower levels where the standard is similar to what it would have been in a higher level without foreigners. then the best come through to play against a better standard of opposition than was ever the case without the foreigners. so it ought to help not hinder. |
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and they have the example of the foreigners to learn from
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charlaton, Young English players with huge potential largely are unable to play in the Premiership as it is full of foreigner purchases by premier managers.
Ask yourself this if you were a premier boss would you play a young player before your multi million pound purchases? The reality is the young English lads are farmed out on loan playing in an inferior league as they cant get a game! Why do premier bosses buy foreigners? The answer is simple English players are more expensive in the market,take Luke Shaw as an example,over £30 million for a full back. In a nutshell there should be a cap on foriegn players for all teams in the Premiership to allow young English players a chance to fulfill their potential. IF/when the cap is implemented the English manager will have a chance for the national team to achieve the results the nation deserves. |
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The reality is the young English lads are farmed out on loan playing in an inferior league as they cant get a game!
They cant get a game because theyre not good enough!!! Ergo they wont be winning us a world cup!! Every player in this world cup got there on merit, nothing to do with money. |
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pleasegivemean,if the premiership is nothing to do with money tell that to Man City and all thier foreieners!!
The premiership and football is ALL about money. Rooney is on over £300k a week and he cant hack it in world cups! |
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If man u bosses want to pay rooney 300k then theyre mugs. Whether hes worth it or not doesnt affect our chance in a world cup though. England manager just has to pick the best 23 out of 60 odd million. Doesnt matter to him what rooney gets paid
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pleasegivemean, How many of your 60 odd million are children,women,disabled,mentally ill,pensioners,sick,infirm,pakistani,welsh,scottish,irish,polish,indian etc and immigrants?
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Hard to say but using Roys squad as a base id guess about 90%
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so that cuts it down rather considerably dont you think, im trying to keep it simple for you, I understand its difficult for you.
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I'm 41yo. 30 years ago when I was in my last year at primary school, I used to get there 45 minutes before the doors opened for a game of 23-a-side with a tennis ball. If you got the ball, you held onto it, as you might not see it again.
Same thing after school, then in for your tea and out again until your Mam came and dragged you off to bed. Everybody knew who was the best player in your area and, trust me, technically he was mustard. But there would be another one two streets away, it's all anyone did, there was nothing else. Kids these days simply don't do that, there are too many other distractions. Everybody has a games console and a smart phone and sports in schools is a shadow of it's former self. It's highly likely that the next Gazza is out there somewhere and has never even kicked a football. It's no coincidence that countries with less developed economies and little in the way of a welfare state are producing better quality players, they're picking from a vastly bigger pool, as these kids having no other distractions and there is the added motivation that success will change the lives of your entire family. That's not going to change any time soon. |
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Desmond,superb post, totally agree. How many kids do you see playing football on the streets or parks in UK?
Also the government selling school playing fields is a national disgrace,and severly hinders the prospect of finding the next,Ennis,Gazza,Farra etc,the decision will haunt the UK for a very long time. |
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utter sh!te. what about Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Holland, even Switzerland.
It is only the English National team which fails so miserably every 2 years. |
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and 46 kids chasing a tennis ball around is great fun (spent every lunchtime at primary and secondary school doing this) but it doesn't produce footballers. that is part of the problem. football is a passing game. not some crazy melee.
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loser,we know England r ****,everyone agrees,but until the FA tackle the premier league over the ludicrous 72% of foreigners playing in it nothing will change.
Read the whole posts. |
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don't agree with your post re foreigners either. the utter sh!te referred to the previous post about kids playing football, jumpers for goalposts blah blah. Only England fails like this and have done for decades. I can only imagine that nobody in this country REALLY wants to solve it.
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do you agree regards my comments on school playfield?
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i should have explained more clearly.do you agree with my comments regarding the governments stupidy in selling school playing fields for cash.
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I don't know enough about the actual details of that. What I can say is when I was at primary school, yes we had our own football pitch but we didn't have a qualified sports teacher of any description. Football matches were often reffed by the 60 year old headmistress. On the other hand, my son's school doesn't have its own pitch, but they use the local park, or the local sports grounds and they have 3 specialist sports teachers with degrees in the subject. So the tuition is clearly of a different world in his case, and the facilities are better as well, albeit off site.
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i would like to think that is generally true across the nation, however I fear not.
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yes
pure stupidity no investment in the future |
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thank you extreme.
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loser, of the teams you mention, Germany have an academy system that is the envy of the world and take their extra-curricular sports very seriously, nor do they mind picking players who spent their formative years in less developed economies and so have benefited from a lack of other distractions - despite this, what have they won recently? France and Holland have been packing their teams with young players from their former colonies for years and it may have passed you by, but the Italians and Swiss are hardly world beaters themselves. Spain is barely a first world economy, outside of the big cities and holiday resorts, it's pretty much third world.
And yes, football is a passing game, but the basics of ball control are required first. How are you going to pass it if you don't have it. I would've thought it painfully obvious that a country that has more children kicking any type ball around for more of the time would produce better players, Brazil don't seem to have done too badly over the years and this world cup is showing that the gap is narrowing. You seem to disagree? In which case what do you think is the problem? |
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well constructed piece,desmond
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If FIFA change the World Cup to a computer game England have a chance.
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Strangely enough I was chatting with a school teacher the other day and they stated, that parents for some stupid reason didn't want their kids to play sport and tried to get them out of having to do PE. Now whether that is because of the cost of buying boots and shirts I really don't know. On a Sunday morning, there used to be around 8-9 games going on at the same time. Now your lucky to find one, greedy councils don't help either, charging masses for a pitch to play on.
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When I was a boy at school they provided football kits, I had to have boots.
If few kids are playing football,what chance the future? Its not as if top football players arnt well paid! One would think every encouragement should be given to the kids! What a strange country we live in. Alas I wasnt good enough, but I played every chance I got till it was dark. |
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I played all sports, footy, cricket, athletics, went swimming and anything else that was going and like you, we played until, it was dark. And I was totally useless at football, but loved the game and travelled all round the grounds, to watch my team. I think I did 68 League grounds in 60's 70's and 80's.
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