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jas1968
22 Jun 11 20:03
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An appalling performance by the markets managers tonight , scratches galore left in the markets here, there, and everywhere.

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By:
Kye
When: 23 Jun 11 08:05
jas, i find this situation with US markets unacceptable. Some smart operators seem to be manipulating the price of the scratchings on BF to take advantage of the deductions.

Surely there is some service that BF can subscribe to that would give them an immediate alert of all the scratchings.
By:
Bluenose
When: 23 Jun 11 11:03
Subscribe?
They own TVG ffs but its simply poor management of the markets on betfairs part. You could train a chimpanzee in less than an hour to do a better a job and this isnt a recent occurence its always been the same.
The amount of customers lost because of this must cost them a fortune in commission.
By:
Menelaus
When: 23 Jun 11 16:01
Kye, very interesting, I'm glad you posted that. I'm also glad that you qualified that whoever is manipulating the prices and taking advantage are "smart operators".

Punters are trading on a betting exchange to take each others money, either through superior skill or knowledge or through exploiting whatever other opportunities may present themselves. So in that sense, I have no problem with "smart operators" taking advantage of Betfair's incompetence at the expense of other punters on here who haven't clued in. The broader question that needs to be asked however is more explosive in my view. "Is Betfair's incompetence inadvertent, or are they complicit in allowing these "smart operators" (who are I feel are the market makers on here) to take advantage?"  It has often made me wonder why something so simple as taking out of the markets runners that in some cases had been withdrawn hours before is still being missed. Especially when punters on here have repeatedly complained about it to Betfair's management. You can draw your own conclusions.

I disagree with Bluenose in his conclusion that punters have been lost because of this. Except of a handful of punters on here who have clued in and have being very vocal complaining about it and an even smaller number actually taking advantage themselves, most posters on here seem to live in blissful ignorance of these shenanigans. Besides, I  think it pales in comparison with other "issues" now prevalent in trading the US racing markets.....but that's an entirely different debate for a different time.
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 18:43
Melanie/COMEDIAN

jog off back to the burger counter . your a laughing stock on this forum .LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Menelaus
When: 23 Jun 11 21:16
What do you think Bluenose, is lucky a troll?
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 21:25
Menelaus Joined: 03 Feb 05
Replies: 748 23 Jun 11 21:16 
What do you think Bluenose, is lucky a troll?


What do you think Bluenose, is billy a sick feck?

there, fixed that for you LaughLaughLaugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 21:27
as far as the rest of it goes

stop b1tching

join them and profit

who gives a feck if they leave the entries in on not, AS LONG as you catch on AND PROFIT

no sympathy for the moaners here
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 21:29
biscuit taken


how many apple pies you cooked today comedian ? LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 21:36
billy, I appreciate you answering the call

go fetch again boy

I'll give you another biscuit

Cool
By:
Bsmith
When: 23 Jun 11 21:45
That's Rich !
By:
Bsmith
When: 23 Jun 11 21:45
ty
By:
Bsmith
When: 23 Jun 11 21:46
Ever a Friend
By:
Bsmith
When: 23 Jun 11 21:53
[;)]
By:
Menelaus
When: 23 Jun 11 21:58
Jas/Bluenose, I said it before and I'll say it again, as long as you chaps who are the heavyweights on this forum continue to hold your nose and look the other way, allowing a mentally disturbed individual like Billy/lucky to continue to poison this forum with his moronic, incessant, repetitious juvenile posts ALL BECAUSE YOU CHAPS HAVE A VENDETTA with the Canadian, this forum will never return to its former self.

My disdain for Billy and my friendship with the Canadian is well known but that has never stopped me from being objective in my comments on this forum. You chaps need to reassess your objectivity and as minimum start being honest with yourselves. You are both very bright individuals so I'm absolutely sure you understand what I'm talking about. They call it "moral authority" for a reason....
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:08
you are the Comedian you stupid clown
By:
Menelaus
When: 23 Jun 11 22:12
Thank you, Billy, I was counting on you to show up and prove my point.
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 22:14
I don't know, from where I'm sitting it looks like Big M trolled and billy took the bait......AGAIN

silly billy, he'll never learn LaughLaughLaugh
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:16
a 2 minute log off and log in by the comedian

thats good considering your flipping a burger at the same time.

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Menelaus
When: 23 Jun 11 22:16
Canadian, please stay out of this. I wasn't trolling, my post was rather serious.
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 22:17
billy, remind me again, who shows up when I call?

LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:17
I would have thought BIG M was the last thig the comedian wanted to talk about . He flips burers and makes Big Macs all day long LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 22:18
remind me one more time

LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:18
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughComedian , remind me again, who shows up when I call?.
By:
Menelaus
When: 23 Jun 11 22:18
This is getting silly. I'm off. Good night.
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:19
remind me one more time.LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 22:19
one more time boy

LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:20
remind me one more timeLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 22:21
billy, I have had a harder time controlling a puppet on a string

....oh wait.....never mind....

jump again for me little dog Cool
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:22
Comedian, I have had a harder time controlling a puppet on a string

....oh wait.....never mind....

jump again for me little dog.LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 22:22
higher
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:24
lower LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 22:26
you're almost there

a little higher

on my command now

3...2...1...
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:26
you're almost there

a little higher

on my command now

3...2...1...
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 22:28
good boy

I knew you could do it

here's a biscuit

Cool
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:29
good boy

I knew you could do it

here's a biscuit

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 22:31
again Laugh
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:31
againLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 23 Jun 11 22:34
I can't hear you

louder Laugh
By:
lucky31
When: 23 Jun 11 22:37
I can't hear you

I can't hear you


I can't hear you

louder 
louder 

louder  LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
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