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jas1968
22 Jun 11 20:03
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An appalling performance by the markets managers tonight , scratches galore left in the markets here, there, and everywhere.
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Report Kye June 23, 2011 8:05 AM BST
jas, i find this situation with US markets unacceptable. Some smart operators seem to be manipulating the price of the scratchings on BF to take advantage of the deductions.

Surely there is some service that BF can subscribe to that would give them an immediate alert of all the scratchings.
Report Bluenose June 23, 2011 11:03 AM BST
Subscribe?
They own TVG ffs but its simply poor management of the markets on betfairs part. You could train a chimpanzee in less than an hour to do a better a job and this isnt a recent occurence its always been the same.
The amount of customers lost because of this must cost them a fortune in commission.
Report Menelaus June 23, 2011 4:01 PM BST
Kye, very interesting, I'm glad you posted that. I'm also glad that you qualified that whoever is manipulating the prices and taking advantage are "smart operators".

Punters are trading on a betting exchange to take each others money, either through superior skill or knowledge or through exploiting whatever other opportunities may present themselves. So in that sense, I have no problem with "smart operators" taking advantage of Betfair's incompetence at the expense of other punters on here who haven't clued in. The broader question that needs to be asked however is more explosive in my view. "Is Betfair's incompetence inadvertent, or are they complicit in allowing these "smart operators" (who are I feel are the market makers on here) to take advantage?"  It has often made me wonder why something so simple as taking out of the markets runners that in some cases had been withdrawn hours before is still being missed. Especially when punters on here have repeatedly complained about it to Betfair's management. You can draw your own conclusions.

I disagree with Bluenose in his conclusion that punters have been lost because of this. Except of a handful of punters on here who have clued in and have being very vocal complaining about it and an even smaller number actually taking advantage themselves, most posters on here seem to live in blissful ignorance of these shenanigans. Besides, I  think it pales in comparison with other "issues" now prevalent in trading the US racing markets.....but that's an entirely different debate for a different time.
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 6:43 PM BST
Melanie/COMEDIAN

jog off back to the burger counter . your a laughing stock on this forum .LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Menelaus June 23, 2011 9:16 PM BST
What do you think Bluenose, is lucky a troll?
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 9:25 PM BST
Menelaus Joined: 03 Feb 05
Replies: 748 23 Jun 11 21:16 
What do you think Bluenose, is lucky a troll?


What do you think Bluenose, is billy a sick feck?

there, fixed that for you LaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 9:27 PM BST
as far as the rest of it goes

stop b1tching

join them and profit

who gives a feck if they leave the entries in on not, AS LONG as you catch on AND PROFIT

no sympathy for the moaners here
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 9:29 PM BST
biscuit taken


how many apple pies you cooked today comedian ? LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 9:36 PM BST
billy, I appreciate you answering the call

go fetch again boy

I'll give you another biscuit

Cool
Report Bsmith June 23, 2011 9:45 PM BST
That's Rich !
Report Bsmith June 23, 2011 9:45 PM BST
ty
Report Bsmith June 23, 2011 9:46 PM BST
Ever a Friend
Report Bsmith June 23, 2011 9:53 PM BST
[;)]
Report Menelaus June 23, 2011 9:58 PM BST
Jas/Bluenose, I said it before and I'll say it again, as long as you chaps who are the heavyweights on this forum continue to hold your nose and look the other way, allowing a mentally disturbed individual like Billy/lucky to continue to poison this forum with his moronic, incessant, repetitious juvenile posts ALL BECAUSE YOU CHAPS HAVE A VENDETTA with the Canadian, this forum will never return to its former self.

My disdain for Billy and my friendship with the Canadian is well known but that has never stopped me from being objective in my comments on this forum. You chaps need to reassess your objectivity and as minimum start being honest with yourselves. You are both very bright individuals so I'm absolutely sure you understand what I'm talking about. They call it "moral authority" for a reason....
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:08 PM BST
you are the Comedian you stupid clown
Report Menelaus June 23, 2011 10:12 PM BST
Thank you, Billy, I was counting on you to show up and prove my point.
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:14 PM BST
I don't know, from where I'm sitting it looks like Big M trolled and billy took the bait......AGAIN

silly billy, he'll never learn LaughLaughLaugh
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:16 PM BST
a 2 minute log off and log in by the comedian

thats good considering your flipping a burger at the same time.

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Menelaus June 23, 2011 10:16 PM BST
Canadian, please stay out of this. I wasn't trolling, my post was rather serious.
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:17 PM BST
billy, remind me again, who shows up when I call?

LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:17 PM BST
I would have thought BIG M was the last thig the comedian wanted to talk about . He flips burers and makes Big Macs all day long LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:18 PM BST
remind me one more time

LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:18 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughComedian , remind me again, who shows up when I call?.
Report Menelaus June 23, 2011 10:18 PM BST
This is getting silly. I'm off. Good night.
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:19 PM BST
remind me one more time.LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:19 PM BST
one more time boy

LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:20 PM BST
remind me one more timeLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:21 PM BST
billy, I have had a harder time controlling a puppet on a string

....oh wait.....never mind....

jump again for me little dog Cool
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:22 PM BST
Comedian, I have had a harder time controlling a puppet on a string

....oh wait.....never mind....

jump again for me little dog.LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:22 PM BST
higher
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:24 PM BST
lower LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:26 PM BST
you're almost there

a little higher

on my command now

3...2...1...
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:26 PM BST
you're almost there

a little higher

on my command now

3...2...1...
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:28 PM BST
good boy

I knew you could do it

here's a biscuit

Cool
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:29 PM BST
good boy

I knew you could do it

here's a biscuit

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:31 PM BST
again Laugh
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:31 PM BST
againLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:34 PM BST
I can't hear you

louder Laugh
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:37 PM BST
I can't hear you

I can't hear you


I can't hear you

louder 
louder 

louder  LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:37 PM BST
what?

louder Cool
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:42 PM BST
what?

louder
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 10:44 PM BST
good boy

I can always count on you

now go tell your sister how thecanadian put you in a straight jacket

come back tomorrow

I'll pummel you some more Cool

sleep tight
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:47 PM BST
good boy

I can always count on you

now go tell your sister how lucky31 put you in a straight jacket

come back tomorrow

I'll pummel you some more

sleep tight .LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 10:51 PM BST
game set and match to Lucky
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 11:05 PM BST
calm down

I knew you couldn't wait until tomorrow

if that "game/set/match" is in Tahiti

then fine. otherwise......

now be a good boy and take your pills now

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 11:31 PM BST
and oh, BTW, that "game, set, match" thing

you may have well had signed that post "billy" on the bottom

((((one of billy's favorite sayings on the forum))))

that's what I like, you tripping over yourself

every time I get your blood boiling





kinda like EVERY DAY LaughLaughLaugh

GN billy, you're too dumb to even offer slight resistance FFS Cool
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 11:44 PM BST
Comedian, this is gone too far

when I started fecking with your head

it was never my intention to put you in a straight jacket

it kinda worked out that way  .LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 23, 2011 11:49 PM BST
billy, no kiddin this has gone too far

honestly, I sent a lot of guys to the hospital

but never one in a mental institution






and never have I enjoy it so much either

LaughLaughLaugh


now go cuddle with your sister, she'll make you feel better
Report lucky31 June 23, 2011 11:59 PM BST
right on cue





have another piece of cheese

come back tomorrow

I'll give you some more
Report lucky31 June 24, 2011 12:01 AM BST
how did you send them to hospital

poison in the Big Mac ?  LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report thecanadian June 24, 2011 12:19 AM BST
billy, you can appear, disappear, reappear, register under 100 different aliases

IT DOESN'T MATTER

the damage is done billy

you were stupid enough to let me in your head


I own you now, get over it

thecanadian Cool
Report lucky31 June 24, 2011 7:27 PM BST
COMEDIAN, you can appear, disappear, reappear, register under 100 different aliases

IT DOESN'T MATTER

the damage is done COMEDIAN you were stupid enough to let me in your head


I own you now, get over it

THELUCKY31
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