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thecanadian
11 Mar 11 16:11
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billy, you posted earlier on this forum that the leading jockeys at PHILLY make $500K a year in personal earnings.

I say this is a clueless statement that only a casual (and hopeless) punter would make.

The leading jockey at PHILLY in 2010 (K. Carmouche) made LESS THAN HALF OF THAT in personal earnings.

Prove me wrong.

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By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 11 Mar 11 18:49
please stop stalking me, troll.
By:
thecanadian
When: 11 Mar 11 19:09
Hey, "please stop talking to me" conclusively proves that I'm wrong and you were right (sarcasm off)

You prove you are clueless with each an every post. But hey, if you post another fake P/L statement I'm willing to file your clueless claim in the "it was all a misunderstanding" file.

Cool
By:
thecanadian
When: 11 Mar 11 23:57
this is how you wipe the floor with boobus americanus

pro my arse
By:
thecanadian
When: 12 Mar 11 03:28
billy is seething chasing shadows over at the financial forum

go on a strict diet everyone and become a jockey at PHILLY

according to billy, if you're in the "top", you should be able to make $500K a year

EPIC CLUELESSNESS Laugh
By:
INEEDATIP
When: 12 Mar 11 18:34
think I'd rather b CLUELESS than a STALKER Laugh
By:
NewGuy@BF
When: 12 Mar 11 18:36
$800,000 less 20-25% to his agent.
thanks for playing.
By:
thecanadian
When: 12 Mar 11 18:44
$800,000 ?????

Really??? Show me how?

NewGuy, also post the the phone number of your supplier, he's got some nice sh1t.
By:
NewGuy@BF
When: 12 Mar 11 18:45
They get 10% of the purse-his over $8million last year plus a per ride fee less the agents cut.

It is over $800K.

Epic fail.
By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 12 Mar 11 18:50
seems this troll ain't a math major, either....leading jock had 1000+ mounts and earnings of more than 6,000,000.  At $40 per ride (minimally) and a cut of the prize money (minus agents fee), it ain't calculus. 

This troll will come back with a brilliant rebuttal...that is 1.01.  The question is, will he post as melanie or thecomedian
By:
thecanadian
When: 12 Mar 11 18:52
Well, I'm glad you cleared that up !!!!

$8 million last year ?!?! Wow, did they throw in a bonus in there somewhere and I didn't get the memo?

They get 10% of the purse ?!?!? Really ??? All the have to do is climb on a horse, finish anywhere where money gets awarded and charge 10%. Great work if you can get it.


And you are on here trading real money I presume. All this shows is the EPIC AMATEUR level you guys are functioning at.
By:
thecanadian
When: 12 Mar 11 18:58
billy, your math is as good as your fake P/L statements.

AMATEUR stuff. You've been outed yet one more time.

Prove me wrong. Don't speak in generalities. Show me the maths that goes from $6.5 million in purse earnings to $500K personal earnings that you claim.

EPIC FAIL
By:
NewGuy@BF
When: 12 Mar 11 18:59
2010 1,234  287 214 166 $ 8,033,670

http://patha.org/

Feel free to email the horsemen's association and ask.
or keep pretending you know the answer when you don't.
By:
thecanadian
When: 12 Mar 11 19:01
NewGuy, do you know who the official statistician is for the US Horse Racing Industry ?

HINT: http://www.equibase.com/static/statistics/tracks/PHA-USA-Jockey.html


AMATEUR STUFF
By:
thecanadian
When: 12 Mar 11 19:06
I'm still waiting for either of you two AMATEUR CLOWNS to show me the maths of how you get from OFFICIAL $6.5 million earnings to $500K personal earnings.
By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 12 Mar 11 19:09
NewGuy,

don't bother with this troll....he is a failed gambler and his frustration is taken out via the forum.  I challenged him to put up a screenshot of his lifetime P/L on Betfair (available with a quick call to the help desk).  He won't do it.  Being the narcissistic egomaniac that he is, he'd do it in a heart beat IF he was a winner.  From reading his juvenile handicapping analysis, it's crystal clear that he is UTTERLY CLUELESS.  Now even the recreational punters know it, too.


LOL, this tool didn't know that jocks get paid a flat fee per mountShocked
By:
thecanadian
When: 12 Mar 11 19:12
another "hey, look over there" moment for billy

the only thing I enjoy more than taking your money on here is outing you for the useless AMATEUR CLOWN that you are
By:
thecanadian
When: 12 Mar 11 19:13
only an AMATEUR CLOWN would look at earnings of $6.5 million and come up with $500 personal earnings

say PLEASE, and I will show you the real numbers which is LESS THAN HALF of the utter bullsh1t you posted
By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 12 Mar 11 19:50
a few months back, this TOOL was trying to join the exclusive PRIVATEMAILBETS wagering service.  He sent several long e-mails to my good friend, PMB, begging him for a seat at the table.  PMB forwarded some of those e-mails to me.  We had quite a laugh.  PMB strung him along for a ride.  It was brilliant.  In the end, he told Howard that he would have to join the queue.  What Howard doesn't know is that he will ALWAYS be in the queue.  PMB will NEVER let that jinx join.Laugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 12 Mar 11 19:56
When they resort to lying and posting fiction about you, it's when you really know that you've got them.

If you ever had ANY credibility on this forum billy (I doubt you did), it just went out the window with your last post.

Get some help, billy, you are a seriously ill man.
By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 12 Mar 11 20:10
excerpt from one of the e-mails:


Dearest PMB,

I write you with the greatest respect and admiration.  I have been gambling on horse races for nearly 20 years.  I love the sport but just can't seem to make it pay.  I have long been an avid follower of your tips on the US forum.  I recently heard a rumor that you are offering a premium membership to your PRIVATEMAILBETS betting service.  Is this true, Sir?  I would gladly pay whatever it takes to join your exclusive club.  Please help me, I am desperately behind on several bills.....


(it goes on for a few more paragraphs)

Faithfully Yours,

Howard (thecanadian)
By:
thecanadian
When: 12 Mar 11 20:12
Stop embarrassing yourself, billy.

Your are melting down in full public view.
By:
INEEDATIP
When: 12 Mar 11 21:36
Laugh U GUYS
By:
griff
When: 12 Mar 11 21:40
Gulf (US) 12th Mar - 21:25 R8 1m 3yo

layed the 1 massive result any one please
By:
griff
When: 12 Mar 11 21:45
4000 to win 190
By:
Menelaus
When: 13 Mar 11 10:23
billy, now I understand how you thought the 3 silver coins you own weigh 3/4 ton.

Don't they teach basic math in America? Like you said this "ain't calculus."

May be this explains it:

RANK    COUNTRY         MATHS

1     Finland     548    
2     Korea             547    
3     Netherlands     531    
4     Switzerland     530    
5     Canada             527    
6     Japan             523    
7     New Zealand     522    
8     Belgium     520    
9     Australia     520    
10     Denmark     513    
11     Czech Rep.      510    
12     Iceland     506    
13     Austria     505    
14     Germany     504    
15     Sweden             502    
16     Ireland     501    
17     OECD average     498    
18     France             496    
19     United Kingdom     495    
20     Poland1     495    
21     Slovak Rep.     492    
22     Hungary     491    
23     Luxembourg     490    
24     Norway             490    
25     Spain             480    
26     Russian Fed.    476    
27     United States     474
By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 13 Mar 11 15:15
thecanadian
03 Mar 11 16:25 Joined: 26 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 3,523 | Blogger: thecanadian's blog

one of my accounts is under my wife's name, same last name, same address, and originating from the same computer


poor Howard incriminating himself in the above post.....lost his original bankroll in 1 week then signed his "wife"(PMSL) up as melanie
By:
thecanadian
When: 13 Mar 11 17:21
billy, you lost the plot.

There's a purpose of maintaining a multiple account operation on here, but I assure you exposing how much of an AMATEUR CLOWN you really isn't one of them.

Why don't you post another fake email of mine.....eeer, wait....better yet, why don't you post another fake P/L statement......eeeer wait, don't waste your time posting anything anymore...NO ONE BELIEVES YOU.
By:
thecanadian
When: 13 Mar 11 17:36
Top jockeys at PHILLY make $500 a year !!!

Only in the world you live in billy. A world of make believe, pixie dust, green unicorns and never ending profits from fake P/L statements.

K. Carmouche made just slightly over $190K last year BEFORE TAXES.

Which makes your $500K post just about the most idiotic thing ever posted on these forums..........next to "I own 3/4 ton silver and keep it in shoes boxes under my bed".

Ignorance in extremis.
By:
NewGuy@BF
When: 14 Mar 11 19:18
100% wrong as usual- but since you'll never admit it, what is the point?

He get's 10% of the purses plus a per mount fee, no matter how much some fanatic wants to post to the contrary.
By:
thecanadian
When: 14 Mar 11 19:30
NewGuy, get a clue FFS. It's getting a little tiring educating you clueless lemmings on here.

He gets 10% ONLY for his winning rides. These represent only about 24% of his total win money. His 10% earnings BEFORE "others" get paid out is only about $158K. Throw in his 2nd and 3rd place earnings at 5% and that's another $97K. Add his "flat-fee" mounts for another $23K and you get his TOTAL.

Deduct his Agent fees, valet fees and Jockeys Guilt mandatory insurance deduction and his GROSS before taxes is just over $190K.

You didn't say PLEASE, now man up and at least say THANK YOU.
By:
Bluenose
When: 14 Mar 11 19:51
You're going to need a bigger abacus.
By:
thecanadian
When: 14 Mar 11 19:52
I don't smoke, thank you.
By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 14 Mar 11 20:05
thecanadian
14 Mar 11 18:30 Joined: 26 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 3,528 | Blogger: thecanadian's blog
NewGuy, get a clue FFS. It's getting a little tiring educating you clueless lemmings on here.

He gets 10% ONLY for his winning rides. These represent only about 24% of his total win money.




???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


did you know that the winning horse earns more than the 4th place finisher?ShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked



ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING
By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 14 Mar 11 20:08
NOW I KNOW FOR CERTAIN HE IS A WIND-UP MERCHANT.....NOBODY IS THAT DUMB



I had a feeling it was lottaluck on the other end!  YOU GOT ME, BROTHERCry....WELL PLAYEDLaugh
By:
thecanadian
When: 14 Mar 11 20:11
billy, I have one more chair in my class, take a seat.

I say it's just over $190K (my numbers are below)

The $500K you posted is ignorant bullsh1t only a clueless amateur clown could post.

PROVE ME WRONG.
By:
thecanadian
When: 14 Mar 11 20:13
You've been outed billy, give it up FFS.

I can smell an AMATEUR CLOWN miles away.
By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 14 Mar 11 20:19
thecanadian
14 Mar 11 18:30 Joined: 26 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 3,532 | Blogger: thecanadian's blog
NewGuy, get a clue FFS. It's getting a little tiring educating you clueless lemmings on here.

He gets 10% ONLY for his winning rides. These represent only about 24% of his total win money. His 10% earnings BEFORE "others" get paid out is only about $158K.



in your brilliant mathematical equation, did you properly weight the figures?  Seriously, you can't be that dumb??  Or maybe you are! The winning horse receives more prize money than the 4th horse, therefore you cannot just plug in his 24% win rate and assume the rest....you can, but you'll be wrong.....I dropped out of school when I was 16, what is your excuse???
By:
thecanadian
When: 14 Mar 11 20:23
Are you really THAT clueless ???

I think you are.

Show me your numbers that get up to $500K and stop shouting "hey, look over there".

PROVE ME WRONG
By:
thecanadian
When: 14 Mar 11 20:24
It shows that you dropped out of high school when you were 16.
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