I have a picture in my minds eye of Keen reaching into his trousers after Melly taunts him and pulling out several gold bars whilst uttering the immortal line, "I did say that gold was a barbarous relic but sometimes that is what is needed in barbarous times"

Sorry FineAs but I just can't help myself:



Menelaus

What a surprise, another "hey, look over there" post while evading the *real* questions yet again.

Bravo. Which of course isn't exactly what you are doing. Oh no sir. You aren't evading answering the question. Not at all. You'd never do that. You'd never resort to cheap smoke and mirrors tricks. Not you. The mighty melly.

What a fraud. A complete charlatan. Not interested in the least in the exchange of ideas and furtherance of collective wisdom.

Allow me to finish your opening sentence:

Here's how I can tell that.........you don't want me here.

YOUR EGO SIMPLY CAN'T TAKE IT.

Which is how you have managed to drive everybody off the forum with only a hardy few able to hold their nose and trawl though your bullshiit. And yet there you are by your own reckoning, the top man rubbing shoulders with the great and the good, generally living the life the "oiks" can only dream about and not a minute to spare. The world is at your feet and anything you want is just a click of your ruby slippers away.

When the reality is that you are here at midnight furiously checking back to see if and how I've responded to your posts. I've got an excuse. I'm not a master of the universe. Why are you here when you could be living the high life with Seth and the boys?

I'm off to bed now but I must ask if somebody knows a doctor who can check our friend over to see if he is fit to continue?

I'm still looking for reasons why Menelaus stands head and shoulders above seemingly all other economists in the world, who collectively do at least admit to doubts and weaknesses in their theories and arguments.
It defies any logical explanation.
I would certainly like to see him in full debate mode against other equally academically qualified economists.
Unfortunately that is not likely to happen on such an unimportant forum as this.
Is that really the reason why he hangs out so much on here ?
We offer a " soft" target to give him small victories to assuage his ego, which daily takes a battering in the real aternative world of serious, informed economic debate.

Btw EO, in keeping with your soccer analogies earlier on, I have come up with the name of the economics school of thought that Menelaus belongs to.
It's " The Roy Keane School of Economics ".
Its motto is " Play the man not the ball dipstick ".

FineAs

I've yet to see any evidence of melenaus being economically qualified. He shouts, waves his arms around and condescends a lot but as you indicate a genuine economist who is comfortable in his skin tends to take the view that the more they know the less certain they can be. He is more akin to someone on a mental health ward rocking back and forth convinced that he is the resurrection. In fact the more I think about it the less he seems like that kind of harmless crazy and the more he reminds me of Jack Nicolson's character in The Shining.

Who ever heard of someone claiming great expertise so simply incapable of movement as indeed Jack is at the end of the film? Raging in frustrated fury. He is paralysed not by cold but by not knowing whether to go back or forward and so he falls back on his master angler nonsense and feigns letting me go. However, he is really like a small boy letting go of a tigers tail and he can't even do that right. Seriously, did you ever hear of an angler letting a fish go and then running up and down the river bank screaming for it to come back? Pure Jack chasing his family around.

And the greatest irony of all us that I am doing to him what Keen did to Krugman. Dismantling him piece by piece with remorseless logic.

And another great irony is that while he professes to bring this mathematical certainty his analysis and his world view accords with that of a relatively simple deductive school of economics. Which is why he is trapped and why he refuses to address my question about why he doesn't simply accept that he is of the Austrian School. And which of course explains why he is desperate for me to tell him about an economist who he claims to idolise but with whom he fundamentally disagrees with. Figure that one out.

I'm not sure I can be of any more service here but let me know if any more dragons wander in by mistake. I'll pop in from time to time. Call it post service customer care. Where would you like me to leave the carcass?

Perhaps you will allow me one last:



It's been emotional. For Melly at least.

I think you just had your a$$ handed to you on a plate melly.

The entire forum has you pegged for the fraud you are.

EO
Thanks for your efforts.
Unfortunately though I tend to think the dragon has not been slain and will prove to be full of a lot more fire and brimstone.
I still would like to see some heavyweight theoretical dismantling of at least some of the actual deductions/forecasts he posts as being certain and non- debatable.
I'm afraid that essentially I am only capable of repeating the cautionary mantra that nothing related to economics seems to be forecastable with any safe degree of mathematical precision and, as such, I am forced to take with a pinch of salt most of the conclusions  he says are definitive and CERTAIN , for logic sake if nothing else. 
The well known phrase " his strengths are that he knows his weaknesses " cannot be applied in any form or manner to Menelaus.
And in that particular sense he is probably the most dangerous poster on here both currently and probably in the foreseeable future.

FineAs

Thanks for the kind words. Good luck with him. He may be dangerous but so was Hitler and he makes about as much sense. Even if he displays that level of delusion it doesn't make him any more right and we all know what happened to Hitler in the end.

Give it up you halfwit, you've been exposed for what you really are.......a fart in the wind.

You can pontificate and set up strawman arguments at infinitum on here but you can't hide the truth. You are economically illiterate. Your knowledge is anecdotal and it therefore leads you to the wrong conclusions.

Not to mention that you choose your friends very poorly. Their IQ combined is probably smaller than Wayne Rooney's shoe size.

Better luck next time you try and stick your face in a meat grinder.

There appears to be good news and bad. The good news is that he has stopped running up and down the river bank pleading for me to return. The bad news is that he has fallen to his knees and is now praying for it.

Do fishermen normally act like this?

I will return to the fray as and when I like but you are going to have to dance for me first and I won't do so until you have clarified why you don't acknowledge your Austrian School tendencies.

Now dance.

Wecome to the sh!tkickers ball it would seem EO.

No he doesn't chatlame.
He seems to be either incapable or unwilling to discern the difference between all other people posting on here what they think/expect/hope might happen in the future, and his posting what WILL happen.
It is stupidity at its profoundest, as it is based on knowledge rather than lack of.
He quite literally disgusts me for so irresponsibly presenting conjecture as fact. 
And more pointedly he is destroying the impact of his posts because of their sheer arrogance and condescension.
And that is a real pity in fact.

Your point please ?

Not if he wants to be listened to unfortunately.
He's hurting himself more than others.
As I said, a real pity and a waste of talent.

No I think he's looking for adulation.
Came to the wrong place I guess.

A fool is one who has been taken. A bigger fool is one who has been taken........but doesn't even know it.

Menelaus     26 Jun 12 22:37  
Even your writing is starting to lose its appeal.

I guess there's only so many times one can shout "hey, look over there" on here with colorful language when those incessant shouts become obvious to everyone that they are merely a sign of.......desperation.

You profess to understand monetary theory, yet all you keep dropping in your posts are terms that even five year old children are familiar with and understand only on the surface......just like you.

This will be the third time I ask this. Either have a go or just STFU. Posting another "hey, look over there" will only embarrass you further.

It makes you wonder how the same brilliant mind could have come up with such a flawed idea. I won't give you the answer to this one, if you know post it for all to see. How does this "jubilee" actually take place, why is it such a bad idea, and what are the implications that Keen ignores? Or, I suppose you thought we all wake up one morning to find out that someone(Gov't? CB? Banks?) decided that anyone who owes money, well, just doesn't owe anything anymore? Get to work.








Meanwhile, the real skeleton in the closet continues to stench up the place:

But perhaps the *real* issue you need to wrap your head around is what changed your behavior on here? What's causing you to post incessant rubbish instead of just lurking, or simply just not being around, like you did in the past. What's causing you to write posts for the sake of writing since you are strictly only trying to impress with the language and not with substance. What invisible force is influencing your behavior? What's forcing you to create strawman after strawman (making a fool of yourself) so you can destroy him for "feel good" but rather hollow victories? What's driving your rage against me?


You may be "aware" of Pavlov (those words are EXACTLY what you posted which is also very telling) but you certainly are still blissfully unaware that you willingly became a subject in one of his experiments.






I think the above posts tell us realy wats happnin.  U have no respect for urself watsoever. U spend so much time talking noises but u dnt say much do u.   U find all these debates and love to chat about it to a guy who is dazzling u time and time again.

U got these other usernames supporting for nearly 15 hours aday.

And then u try and tell us ur time is worth so much.


Y is it ur mates chat exactly the same bull as u. By chance I guess.

Wen it comes to gambling tell every1 wat a pu55y u r.

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