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By:
tof
When: 04 Oct 18 16:42
zver00v ... LaughLaugh
By:
tof
When: 04 Oct 18 16:51
for the attention of broken drum Player    Anett Kontaveit    Caroline Wozniacki
1st Serve %    60% (47 of 78)    70% (49 of 70)
Aces    2    5
Double Faults    4    1
1st Serve Points Won    53% (25 of 47)    63% (31 of 49)
2nd Serve Points Won    52% (16 of 31)    52% (11 of 21)
Break Points Won    50% (3 of 6)    45% (5 of 11)
Return Points Won    41% (29 of 71)    50% (41 of 82)
Total Points Won    70    83
Odds    2.4    1.571
By:
caramba
When: 04 Oct 18 17:13
what a mug Sascha.
By:
tof
When: 04 Oct 18 17:13
jaziri jaziri .... !!!
By:
tof
When: 04 Oct 18 17:13
does it to him every time ... Laugh
By:
differentdrum
When: 04 Oct 18 18:22
Two great back-to-back wins for Sabalenka. For differing reasons probably the best wins of her sequence.

She was pretty much beat today and still refused to give in. So often the player who levels the match doesn't take that momentum into the decider. Sabalenka had every excuse to play the tired card.

The big question now is what has she got left? She is a much better player than Wang - who seems to have made an amazing recovery in a short time - but it obviously isn't as simple as that. Hopefully, playing the crowd will add an extra bit of focus and energy.

The draw has been massively kind to Osaka and that is why she is now a relatively short priced favourite. She needs to mess up badly not to at least make the final.
By:
wisewords
When: 04 Oct 18 23:23
Karatantcheva

1.05             £10
1.07             £386
1.08             £609
1.09             £287
1.11             £1,883
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 Oct 18 08:31
What on earth was that from Osaka?

If you don't want to play then don't play. Looks like she would be better off in a clinic rather than on a tennis court.

Contrast her attitude to that of Sabalenka. One a credit to the game, the other a complete joke.
By:
leefee
When: 05 Oct 18 09:51
Easy win today for Weaponless Wozza or will she t**t around as per usual?
By:
tof
When: 05 Oct 18 10:40
all of wozgnocchi's weapons on display terday ...
By:
tof
When: 05 Oct 18 10:48
...and Kyle oozing bile right now ...
By:
tof
When: 05 Oct 18 10:54
wozgnocchi ... more weapons zan Kim Jung Ung ...Laugh
By:
wisewords
When: 05 Oct 18 12:31
tof who wins WTA Beijing title on Sunday?
By:
tof
When: 05 Oct 18 12:54

Oct 5, 2018 -- 12:31PM, wisewords wrote:


tof who wins WTA Beijing title on Sunday?


aryna oompa loompa zabal00nka ...

By:
n88uk
When: 05 Oct 18 14:53
Halep has been medically cleared to play WTA Finals btw.
By:
tof
When: 05 Oct 18 15:41
so for a few shots over there no grunting ...
By:
tof
When: 05 Oct 18 15:42
which is good concentrate on ze tinnis zabal00nka ...
By:
tof
When: 05 Oct 18 15:43
thats 4 shots no screaming ffs why don't you learn bish  ...
By:
tof
When: 05 Oct 18 15:55
no yelling = winning  ... yelling =lo0se ...
By:
tof
When: 05 Oct 18 15:57
bet zabal00nka also has a tiger tattooed on her pie ...
By:
n88uk
When: 05 Oct 18 16:03
Lol what a shot from Wang.
By:
wisewords
When: 05 Oct 18 16:17
Sabalenka Not Always GOATing
By:
tof
When: 05 Oct 18 16:18
goes to show what the forum consider weapons are not got picked off a destroyed ... ball bashing and a lot of noise goes a long way on ze forum innit ... especially if yo has a drum innit ...
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 Oct 18 16:44
Great match from Wang. Top ten stuff and hopefully she will go on to win. I have backed Osaka but I can't support someone who gets up to that sort of nonsense on a tennis court.

Possibly one match too many for Sabalenka but she was up against a very good standard. Match probably lost when unable to push home the advantage in the first set. People talk about her serve but I think that is one area where she can get significant improvement. It is a weapon but it should be more of a weapon.
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 Oct 18 19:39
I know 24 hours in WTA is a long time but hard to believe the odds going forward.

Anything like a reproduction of her last two matches and Wang beats Wozniacki, probably in straight sets. Wang has played two high quality matches against more difficult opponents and seen them off in straight sets. Wozniacki has comfortably beaten two players who were effectively spent. A ball pusher provides a different sort of opposition but Wang should be favourite. I would be surprised if the market doesn't move in that direction as well. Assuming the 'injury' does not resurface the 5/1 outright looks very big as well.

If Osaka comes out in sulky face mode again then she goes out. Her semi-final is priced up as if today didn't happen. Can she just flick a switch? At the odds I would far sooner be on Sevastova at 2/1.
By:
n88uk
When: 05 Oct 18 22:07
It's because a lot more than last 24 hours goes into pricing up a tennis match. Wang has looked good, but it will be a totally different match vs Wozniacki from her last two where she will be expected to make all the play and find all the winners.

And Osaka has been a winning machine recently, which is the biggest factor going into the price vs Sevastova.
By:
n88uk
When: 05 Oct 18 22:09
And I agree with you Wang has generally looked better, but the market is already heavily taking this into account. If this match was 2 weeks ago Wozniacki would be like 1.3x rather than 1.7x.
By:
leefee
When: 06 Oct 18 08:57
Whats going on?
By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 06 Oct 18 09:03
Ridiculous mental midget Sevastova

4-2 40-15* on osaka's serve with osaka looking ready to give up, Sevastova bottles the break points and then gets broken back next game after osaka mto
By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 06 Oct 18 09:07
Osaka just broke herself from 40-30 with a df and two muggy errors
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Oct 18 09:39
Disappointing again from Osaka. Seemingly devoid of any ideas to reverse a losing position. Very similar to when she was an overwhelming favourite to beat Pliskova. If you are a Slam winner then winning is about winning finals. She couldn't have landed on a better draw. A racehorse with her attributes would have a Timeform squiggle. She wasn't expected in the US Open. That win came pretty much out of nowhere. Since then the expectation level has increased and she has failed to deliver. All very well hammering opponents in early rounds but she has pretty much capitulated under pressure almost looking as if she couldn't care less. The poorest of tennis players can show some fight. She needs to decide whether she thinks sulking and crying her way around tennis courts is the future. The sympathy I felt for her in the US Open has gone. Sadly, she seems to have embraced far too many of the worst aspects of her idol.
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Oct 18 14:35
A disnal repeat for Wang of the last semi-final when she ended up retiring. Seemingly no idea of how to cope with a solid ball pusher. The serve, unforced error count and self doubt terrible compared to yesterday. It doesn't augur well for trying to repeat outside of China. Very frustrating for Sabalenka who surely wouldn't have capitulated in that manner. As for Wozniacki a string of very ordinary results and then this?
By:
wisewords
When: 06 Oct 18 14:58

Oct 3, 2018 -- 6:27PM, wisewords wrote:


I find things too difficult to predict at this stage of the season, with motivation levels differing massively from player to player. I'll plump for a Sevastova v Bertens final, a bit of a wild guess really.


50% correct wild guess.

By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 07 Oct 18 11:03
Peter Gojowchoke mugging hard
By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 07 Oct 18 11:23
umpire made a dodgy call that got in sock's head and ruined his momentum
By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 07 Oct 18 11:26
sock taking an mto now and complaining about how the umpire changed the match
By:
caramba
When: 07 Oct 18 11:38
Sock seething about hawkeye now.
By:
SabineIsGOAT
When: 07 Oct 18 11:55
no handshake for the umpire
By:
nofx
When: 07 Oct 18 11:57
statistical anomaly in Shanghai quallies
By:
n88uk
When: 07 Oct 18 12:40
Sock's fall in the rankings in coming weeks is going to be unbelievable, not sure we've ever seen someone fall like this that wasn't due to simply not playing because of injury. He's ranked 17 atm and 159 in the race. With this few weeks left in the season, that's unbelievable. With Paris and WTF points falling off at same time, he's probably going to drop over 100 places in 1 week alone!
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