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By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 13 21:42
i don't like watching Maria either, but that doesn't matter
By:
n88uk
When: 04 Jul 13 21:43
Given I have seen Serena and Maria fill out stadium like Madison Square Gardens (and not together either), something tells me they can sell tickets.
By:
edy
When: 04 Jul 13 21:48
I always saw the prize money at the majors as somewhat of a compensation for the whole year rather than solely and only prize money for winning matches at those four specific events. For working out and practicing all year, for getting your ranking high enough for direct entry through playing other events and all the stuff that male and female players do alike throughout the year.

Hence I don't think best of 3 contrary to best of 5 is really an issue in equal pay. That's all I'll say about this. It's a completely pointless debate that comes up every few months and there's NEVER a winner in the debate. NEVER! Don't know why someone unrelated to (top100) tennis players would spend lots and lots of time complaining about equal pay either.
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 13 21:50
i wonder if i make a thread about futures and challenger prize money it'd get so much interest
By:
n88uk
When: 04 Jul 13 21:51
That and once you've gone to equal prize money, there is no real way out of equal prize money. No-one is going to budge now. Even on tour at the top level prize money has turned equal. ATP use to give out far bigger prize money at all levels, now it's only the lower levels of the tour. Events like Madrid, Rome, Canada, Cincinnati all went joint events and now give out equal prize money.
By:
stu
When: 04 Jul 13 21:51
But it is a lot less money.
By:
stu
When: 04 Jul 13 21:52
*reply to aaron's post
By:
aaronh
When: 04 Jul 13 21:54
Cool
By:
yyyy
When: 04 Jul 13 23:06
aaronh
big 4, serena and maria are clear cut

then you could argue a few more


Yes I can argue for Ana Ivanovic and Cirstea. People would pay big bucks to watch these are stretching their muscles. Wink
By:
yyyy
When: 04 Jul 13 23:10
The Universal rule is: you get what you paid for. In womens we get less then what we paid for. The Universal Rule is screwed!

This cannot last long. So, it's only matter of time when they'll require those muggs to play best of 5 in Womens GS tournaments.
By:
mengmeng
When: 04 Jul 13 23:33
to be fair i would happily pay the women more to play even less sets! lol
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 05 Jul 13 00:00

Jul 4, 2013 -- 11:33PM, mengmeng wrote:


to be fair i would happily pay the women more to play even less sets! lol


LaughLaughLaugh

By:
aaronh
When: 05 Jul 13 00:03

Jul 4, 2013 -- 11:06PM, yyyy wrote:


aaronhbig 4, serena and maria are clear cutthen you could argue a few moreYes I can argue for Ana Ivanovic and Cirstea. People would pay big bucks to watch these are stretching their muscles.


I was actually tempted to mention Ana who remains relevant despite being fairly useless

By:
AdvantageAussie
When: 05 Jul 13 03:29
Is there any other major global sport where Women get even close to equal pay to men?

Tennis obviously started something, but why haven't other sports followed? It's been a long time since Billy Jean King.
By:
teo813
When: 05 Jul 13 03:41
Women should get paid much more than men.-
By:
AyersRock
When: 05 Jul 13 04:10
the money issue should only really apply in slams and not what hey get paid in the non slam tourneys as they both play the best of three

the greatest tennis matches in history have come from the mens game, usually in slams, usually in 5 set epics lasting hours, the women are not value for money, they benefit from the mens game

it's simple, men and women should only be paid if they are doing exactly the same job, men are working harder in slams and provide the fans better value for money and of course should be paid more, the women in tennis should be eternally grateful to their male counterparts for propping up their income

women also have the benefit of having on court coaching, additional help unlike the men and still get paid the same
By:
aaronh
When: 05 Jul 13 10:23
men also have coaches... and on court coaching isn't allowed at slams Confused
By:
aaronh
When: 05 Jul 13 10:34
and to be fair, we hear greatest match ever and epic and classic every time a match goes 5 sets

getting rid of 5 sets would mean we don't hear the hyperbolic nonsense every time that happens Cool
By:
aaronh
When: 05 Jul 13 10:37
countless 4 set matches have entertained me in this tournament more than the supposed 5 set epics
By:
aaronh
When: 05 Jul 13 10:47

Jul 5, 2013 -- 3:29AM, AdvantageAussie wrote:


Is there any other major global sport where Women get even close to equal pay to men?Tennis obviously started something, but why haven't other sports followed? It's been a long time since Billy Jean King.


such a thing is impossible I'd imagine in team sports, and those are the majority of the womens sports closest to popularity of tennis

By:
aston
When: 05 Jul 13 11:42
If you ask is it fair to pay men more because they bigger and stronger because of being born a man then you could also ask if its fair to pay someone lucky enough to be born with more talent.  The players that more people pay to watch generate more money for the sport.
By:
jin_kazz
When: 05 Jul 13 12:03

Jul 5, 2013 -- 3:41AM, teo813 wrote:


Women should get paid much more than men.-


+1

By:
n88uk
When: 05 Jul 13 12:09
Tbf I would prefer they just scrapped on on court coaching, but not because of reasons listed in this thread.
By:
smb360
When: 05 Jul 13 12:25
In this thread: seasonal 'tennis fans' show off their idiocy, but thankfully won't be seen again until next year, or at least until the next slam.

edy • July 4, 2013 9:48 PM BST
I always saw the prize money at the majors as somewhat of a compensation for the whole year rather than solely and only prize money for winning matches at those four specific events. For working out and practicing all year, for getting your ranking high enough for direct entry through playing other events and all the stuff that male and female players do alike throughout the year.

Hence I don't think best of 3 contrary to best of 5 is really an issue in equal pay. That's all I'll say about this. It's a completely pointless debate that comes up every few months and there's NEVER a winner in the debate. NEVER! Don't know why someone unrelated to (top100) tennis players would spend lots and lots of time complaining about equal pay either.

Report • Quote • Block User aaronh • July 4, 2013 9:50 PM BST
i wonder if i make a thread about futures and challenger prize money it'd get so much interest


Yup ... and look who it is making these points ... the people that are here - and follow the tours - all year round.
By:
aaronh
When: 05 Jul 13 12:33

Jul 5, 2013 -- 12:09PM, n88uk wrote:


Tbf I would prefer they just scrapped on on court coaching, but not because of reasons listed in this thread.


on court coaching for all Silly

By:
AdvantageAussie
When: 06 Jul 13 07:32
>> Is there any other major global sport where Women get even close to equal pay to men? Tennis obviously started
>> something, but why haven't other sports followed? It's been a long time since Billy Jean King

> such a thing is impossible I'd imagine in team sports, and those are the majority of the womens sports closest to
> popularity of tennis

I would have thought that Golf being an individual sport with global appeal would be closest Tennis

In Golf, the men make much more money than the women.

Individual or not, I can't think of a single other sport where women make the same money (or anywhere close to the same money) as the men.
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 06 Jul 13 11:21
no one wants to see women play best of 5.
By:
LucianoBettio
When: 06 Jul 13 11:45
Just read Mr Harmans book. Had almost forgot about those million dollar sponsor attracting superstars Stakhovsky and Simon. What a prime pair of seething neverwozzer nomarks.
By:
crazycrazytsonga
When: 06 Jul 13 14:59
Judging by the quality of the final, women should receive less than what the wheelchair players get.
By:
aaronh
When: 06 Jul 13 15:22
had this been a 7-5 5-7 14-12 final I imagine this fred wouldn't have seen much action today


(and yes this has been an awful final)
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