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Aaron but the majority are below the top 20 and they wont usually make it to the second week so its easier for them to play both.
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"the women were paid less when the WTA was more popular and ATP was in a mug era pre-Fed"
The women were never more popular than the men. Agassi was still playing when Federer started winning |
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Any new arguments since the last time we've had this thread? Don't want to bother reading the whole thread if it's all been said before on here.
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no pretty much same old
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Indeed... You had Agassi/Sampras and a few others in the 90s. Then there was Hewitt and Roddick which was an interim period until Federer showed up and then a couple of years later Nadal came along. During that period it was all Serena and Venus... Who no one liked.
The only time women have ever been as popular as the men is in the late 70s and 80s. |
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During that period it was all Serena and Venus... Who no one liked.
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can't believe you said something so stupid
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Which bit? That it was all Serena and Venus (which is true, apart from maybe Henin and Capriati) or that no one liked them (also true)?
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lol @ you denying the sister's popularity
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This is part of the women emancipation thing. Do you really need to get on this one? lol I'll leave it how it is.
The big ATP players have massive contracts that for some are the main income. The 2nd tier players like Tsonga, Berdych probably also making a few bucks on racquet sponsor, apparel, watch etc. The ATP players that barely make the top 20 or are not good enough for sponsorship usually have their success at ATP 250 or Challenger level where the prize money is way better (double?) than the womens equivalent, WTA International and ITf's. So it's not that bad i guess. |
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I just don't like them doing segments about women's equality without any reference to the fact that some people think it's absurd
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As for the sisters popularity. No. Venus Williams doesn't have more than 3 fans. And that's her father, her mother and her sister.
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it was hard to take you seriously beforehand but now I just know you are clueless
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sexist as well as racist it appears
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the job entertain,male or female they are doong the same thing
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No. It's just a fact the Williams sisters aren't well liked
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the job is to entertain. we dont giva a phuk about who win it.
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i understand when nobody likes them
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Wimbledon charge less to watch women's semis than men's. Which pretty much ends the argument for me.
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I'm not even a fan of either of them but respect that they are greats
why aren't they well liked? I imagine you'll bring up the US Open matches vs Stosur and Clijsters even though they are way past that era |
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i think its because they were winning all those players and they were all white.
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I don't know why they aren't well liked. Personally I find Venus sanctimonious, but Serena quite amusing.
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U.S. OPEN WOMEN’S FINALS, HIGHEST RATED SINCE 1995:
1. 2001, Venus Williams d. Serena Williams, 6.8 2. 1999, Serena Williams d. Martina Hingis, 6.3 3. 1995, Steffi Graf d. Monica Seles, 5.2 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Probably got a bit of extra publicity for being the first time sisters played each other in a Grand Slam final and them being America.
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but noone liked them, so why would they care
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well deserved publicity,anyway. who do like to see any of them losing matches? evrybody i guess
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do you know which US Open final got better viewing figures last year in America
was it the tough and strong men who played a 5 setter or the match between the player isn't liked and Azarenka ![]() |
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Intrigue. Stick Ian Brady on the court with Charles Manson and you'll get 50 million viewers. Freak shows do. Like Billie Jean King vs. Bobby Riggs. A match she still thinks she actually won
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oh and btw
same statistics in America U.S. OPEN MEN’S FINALS, HIGHEST RATED SINCE 1995: 1. 1999, Andre Agassi d. Todd Martin, 6.3 2. 2002, Pete Sampras d. Andre Agassi, 6.2 3. 1996, Pete Sampras d. Michael Chang, 6.1 |
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predictable aaronh |
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crazy how these unliked sisters can outrank the 2 best american players of the 90s/early 00s
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people want to see them lose.
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Yeah but I bet most Americans were supporting Hingis in that one final
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Lets please stop the 5 sets thing, that would actually create more inequality as WTA would lose viewers. Equal prize money is clearly a farce, anyone suggesting it's justified is an idiot
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