Very logical Clyde, and a deserving winner in any year.

But it's a public vote.

Substance or style

According to rtv, the bbc or other legacy media didn't even acknowledge it happened on their broadcasts. Aside from everyone getting awfully giddy on the live show.

There were horse racing people writing emails in to say how good her price was at 16-1 and they were having plenty on. Dimwits.

Female is a massive advantage in current day spoty obviously, but I saw Amy Hunt was part of the pile on moaning about Sydney Sweeney in the media this week. She's like the weird science product for the bbc, a grauniad poster girl. Whereas Saffie was on the front page of the Sunday Telegraph.

I've cashed up unless a pressing opportunity arises (like AO Saffie green). But as has been covered countless times, the bbc picks their winner. What are the chances of them picking Littler? Slim picking, pardon the double pun. Harry seems pretty unlikely too. That doesn't mean obviously money can't be made from the market thinking people have a better chance than the reality (such as the f1 dude in '25). The ballers this year, case in point.
I would genuinely have liked to have seen Billy listed for the trading opportunity, but he needed that wow moment of Bow Echo winning the Breeders' Cup to crown his championship season, obviously that's now off the table.

TBH I couldn't see the beeb actually pushing for a horse racing winner - they hate it these days.

They didn't mind him winning in the break out year, as he was a cultural phenom. I'd argue pretty much impossible to leave out, and a tolerable winner. But obviously, he was given a back seat on the night. If they push him as number one 1st choice this year I will quit the forum for 6 months. Unfortunately for many perhaps, as it's not going to happen!

A British child chess prodigy has become the youngest player in history to earn the woman grandmaster (WGM) title.

Bodhana Sivanandan, 11, from north-west London, secured her third and final WGM norm - a certified title-level performance - while representing England at the 46th Chess Olympiad in Samarkand, Uzbekistan, the International Chess Federation (FIDE) confirmed.

It is the latest milestone in a remarkable rise for the schoolgirl, who has already become Britain's youngest women's chess champion and the youngest person to represent England internationally in any sport.

Is chess a sport?

BBC article, so noted.

Yeah, agree, but for reference.

Not been on here in awhile, this time of year is specials season for me, I’m not seeing anything on Anthony Joshua/Fury on this thread, the fight is scheduled for 11th December which could just make the shortlist with the last minute rules, obviously Fury has previously started his hatred for the BBC, but if Anthony Joshua Wins he surely will be a massive contender, he had the car crash followed by beating Fury in the best of Britain fight, and possibly retire after, would that be enough to swing it?

That looks about right, I don’t think they will put both Bellingham and Kane up as that vote share will be close to 50/50 I reckon, and Littler is a strange one as he deserves to be included with the amount of tournament wins this year along with his unbeaten streak, but his popularity has dropped massively so can’t see him winning if was included, he does have his TV show starting October 30th which might work in his favour slightly in getting shortlisted.

With the AJ/Fury I also give Fury the edge in the fight itself, but if it’s competitive and AJ wins I think he is in with a good chance, he will have the bias of the event just happening (probably still showing the damage on his face), he will have a great story in his VT about the crash and coming back to boxing, I personally think he will retire if he wins, Fury winning is a different story entirely though as he doesn’t want to be included, and doubt BBC want to go through that again.