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19 Dec 25
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World Cup year. England wilt in the heat? Plucky jocks? Draper? F1? Sunderland win champions league or would that be 2027?
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As you've said, getting to the semi might be enough and the market's certainly not writing them off, so not over yet.
Anyway, new max red is Matt Weston; 8.0? WTF is that all about???
Anyway, new max red is Matt Weston; 8.0? WTF is that all about???
Messi 8/13, Mbappe 13/8; just one assist behind but with Messi facing the mighty Spain while Mbappe faces a demoralised England, he's certinly the value call
Yeah weston is absolute fluff. How does he beat Bellingham? Who remembers who he is? Rory seems too short too, hens teeth winning a second one in a row
Belly should be in team of the tournament, kane no chance
Belly should be in team of the tournament, kane no chance
Belly clipped one of the argies round the heed. Should be 1.8
Better get josh kerr added
New world record!!!
New world record!!!
oh look he's at 10 lol. hope everyone got on at the books when i posted 
I'll be waiting for army's analysis later in the year before laying 
I made a real mess of this market last year, I managed to turn a fair sized green on McIlroy into a red last year, so I told myself not to get involved this year.
just had a few small tenners so far
I (and the market) thought Bellingham was a non runner after he slapped that argie, but he's just scored again like a boss in the WC 3rd place play off, In from 24's to...
just had a few small tenners so far
I (and the market) thought Bellingham was a non runner after he slapped that argie, but he's just scored again like a boss in the WC 3rd place play off, In from 24's to...
| BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2026 -- Winner |
| 57 Runners £60,256 Matched |
| 107.1% | 52.2% | ||||||||
| -£39 | Rory McIlroy | 6.2 | 6.4 | 6.6 | 9.2 | 10.5 | 11 | £6,871 | |
| £10 | £3 | £1 | £3 | £5 | £2 | ||||
| £51 | Matt Weston | 6.4 | 6.6 | 6.8 | 10.5 | 11 | 14.5 | £12,602 | |
| £8 | £3 | £3 | £2 | £140 | £2 | ||||
| -£39 | Harry Kane | 8 | 8.2 | 8.8 | 95 | 100 | 120 | £12,619 | |
| £9 | £21 | £1 | £1 | £1 | £20 | ||||
| £66 | Jude Bellingham | 6.2 | 6.4 | 7 | 9.2 | 9.8 | 11 | £7,643 | |
| £11 | £2 | £52 | £7 | £7 | £3 | ||||
| -£39 | Lewis Hamiliton | 14 | 14.5 | 16 | 26 | 28 | 36 | £1,264 | |
| £10 | £1 | £3 | £2 | £10 | £4 | ||||
| £42.2 | George Russell | 12 | 13.5 | 15 | 30 | 36 | 60 | £2,903 | |
| £1 | £7 | £1 | £2 | £10 | £1 | ||||
| -£39 | Luke Littler | 18.5 | 20 | 21 | 80 | 85 | 95 | £2,087 | |
| £11 | £3 | £2 | £1 | £3 | £3 | ||||
| -£39 | Keely Hodgkinson | 21 | 26 | 30 | 190 | 1000 | - | £1,791 | |
| £4 | £15 | £3 | £1 | £3 | |||||
| -£39 | Tommy Fleetwood | 14 | 20 | 21 | 40 | 65 | 75 | £622 | |
| £5 | £24 | £5 | £12 | £5 | £4 | ||||
| -£39 | Moses Itauma | 60 | 75 | 80 | 190 | - | - | £315 | |
| £5 | £1 | £4 | £1 | ||||||
| -£39 | Josh Kerr | 7.8 | 8.2 | 8.4 | 20 | 48 | 65 | £905 | |
| £26 | £40 | £9 | £26 | £1 | £7 | ||||
| plus 46 more runners not listed above, at odds of over 100 |
Getting a bit radgey with useless kernt tuchel does no harm either
There's a Jock vote in there this year isn't there - unless they ignore Kerr (again!)
Men's mile world record is a big on for the athletics buffs too - had to speculate slightly on him given all factors.
Get an army thread on him and he should be no bigger than 2/1
- unless they ignore Kerr (again!)Men's mile world record is a big on for the athletics buffs too - had to speculate slightly on him given all factors.
Get an army thread on him and he should be no bigger than 2/1
Most ever goals scored at WC by an England player is his "win"
You're reaching now, or trolling
Golden ball maybe but not scoring an extra goal in 3rd place game
Golden ball maybe but not scoring an extra goal in 3rd place game
I ain't saying I'm a believer, but I wouldn't be surprised if that strap line gets him into the spotty final.
Mcilroy is a max red for me, no way can he win 2 years in a row, golfers don't do well generally, he is polarising at best and didn't win this week
I'm at a loss to explain how he is under 10
I'm at a loss to explain how he is under 10
Kerr is a private school Edinburgh twunt stu, the jocks would rather vote for Bellingham than him
Kerr is private school Edinburgh stu. The jocks would sooner vote for Bellingham
Agree with lifter, and with kimble on rory. Nobody is bothering to vote for him this year
But it all creates value elsewhere. Hammy the one that has potential to beat Belly, but the ferrari didn't look too hot yesterday. Everyone hates Russell
Well tbf, leclerc looked good and has resumed normal service of being the best ferrari driver
Belly has certain weaknesses though - plays abroad for a start, and is a bit more on the 'masculine/footy' side for the lady voters to bother with in this. Kerr far more acceptable for those ladies IMO.
Can't ever agree that a Scot won't form some kind of Jock vote support - no matter what kind he is.
Can't ever agree that a Scot won't form some kind of Jock vote support - no matter what kind he is.
One's a national hero and household name and the other made 4th story on bbc sport website
If it was a true old-school SPOTY vote, where the actual nation (and males mostly) still voted, then I'd agree with some of that logic.
But IMO it will be more about a (at least partly) block Scot vote, and a lack of any real turnout from the footy fans for SPOTY by the time it happens. They don't turn up like they used to do for this kind of event. Plus it's worst time to back Belly now, he's today's buzz, but didn't actually win anything, played well is all. Playing well a criteria to win SPOTY? Not at a short price IMO.
By November I think the world record holder over a blue ribband athletic event can get it done, with the help of some Scot block voting.
Voting numbers are pathetic these days, which is why they hide them - and most footy fans, even if they like Belly now, will not be bothered to get involved in a TV woke show of voting. They will be out getting p'ssed and chanting about Reform support instead.
But IMO it will be more about a (at least partly) block Scot vote, and a lack of any real turnout from the footy fans for SPOTY by the time it happens. They don't turn up like they used to do for this kind of event. Plus it's worst time to back Belly now, he's today's buzz, but didn't actually win anything, played well is all. Playing well a criteria to win SPOTY? Not at a short price IMO.
By November I think the world record holder over a blue ribband athletic event can get it done, with the help of some Scot block voting.
Voting numbers are pathetic these days, which is why they hide them - and most footy fans, even if they like Belly now, will not be bothered to get involved in a TV woke show of voting. They will be out getting p'ssed and chanting about Reform support instead.
Add possible split footy vote - Kane and Belly...as a danger for backers?
Jul 20, 2026 -- 1:59PM, stu wrote:
Belly has certain weaknesses though - plays abroad for a start, and is a bit more on the 'masculine/footy' side for the lady voters to bother with in this. Kerr far more acceptable for those ladies IMO.Can't ever agree that a Scot won't form some kind of Jock vote support - no matter what kind he is.
"more on the 'masculine/footy side' for lady voters" - Jude is the most popular man in the world amongst the ladies right now. Some watched England games just for him 
But yeah, doesn't mean they vote for him. Insanely popular though
He has a chance for sure in this, just not so sure how good that chance is, compared to a world record holder and world championship winner this year.
He just hasn't won anything, and I'm struggling to think of many that won this event that didn't win anything. Giggs would be closest example potentially, but that was an extreme outlier, not a short price selection.
He might not even get listed, as they don't have to - though I think it's likely he would get listed. The two girls from England split their vote despite winning also. If Kane is on the list (likely too) then he's dead as a selection IMO.
He just hasn't won anything, and I'm struggling to think of many that won this event that didn't win anything. Giggs would be closest example potentially, but that was an extreme outlier, not a short price selection.
He might not even get listed, as they don't have to - though I think it's likely he would get listed. The two girls from England split their vote despite winning also. If Kane is on the list (likely too) then he's dead as a selection IMO.
Kerr wins 1500m in home commonwealth games
wrapped in saltire.... Probably
1500m record is a goodun, but he must have a crack at it, and perhaps that's the key to
his chances, but still a runner on mile record and commonwealth gold.
wrapped in saltire.... Probably
1500m record is a goodun, but he must have a crack at it, and perhaps that's the key to
his chances, but still a runner on mile record and commonwealth gold.
Everyone know the games aren't on normal telly?
Audiences will be tiny
Audiences will be tiny
Will be some interesting test case potentially in this vote and year - a traditional male sport and fans selection vs a Scot holding a shiny new world record in a more female friendly sport of athletics.
We had similar in Littler v Keely, and the former won it of course. But, Littler was less generally popular perhaps than Belly. On other hand, he had achieved and won more than Belly.
Some interesting tests to come in this.
We had similar in Littler v Keely, and the former won it of course. But, Littler was less generally popular perhaps than Belly. On other hand, he had achieved and won more than Belly.
Some interesting tests to come in this.
TBH it's more important who views the actual SPOTY show itself overall IMO.
Some back to laying going on with kerr I think.
I'm not bothering with the first half
I'm not bothering with the first half
Joshua vs fury maybe more interesting in that respect. The boxing fans will maybe think they can sneak someone over the line
Some back to laying going on with kerr I think.
Yes, TBF did a bit of that myself - only sensible to reduce risk after backing.
Yes, TBF did a bit of that myself - only sensible to reduce risk after backing.
Backing finucane at 1000, when he has 1 million green he'll appear
May as well lay the 1000 if not
When are you backing bellingham stu? Sooner you start the better
When are you backing bellingham stu? Sooner you start the better
Thanks to Kerr shortening heavily enough Belly for me is: 0
Prob keep him there, he could win it, but I don't want money on it.
Prob keep him there, he could win it, but I don't want money on it.
Some backers starting to like Kane again, for some reason...?
Kane 6/4 fav for the Ballon d'Or (world's best player award).
Fair issue yes - not sure why that means he should win SPOTY though. He probably shouldn't win Ballon d'Or either really...given several better than him at this WC, including Belly.
Does feel like both Belly and Kane will get listed for SPOTY though - and that is not good for either chance in it.
kane's clearly been the best player in the world this season whether he wins the balon d'or or not. sure if france or argentina had won the world cup he would have been struggling but spain relied more on team excellence rather than individual brilliance. they don't really have any big names who have stood out at club level this year
yamal was largely peripheral for spain and barcelona underachieved in getting knocked out by atletico in the CL
Still seems odd for Kane to be rated the best world player really, given he ultimately failed (due to high standards of course) at the world cup. Didn't even get a game in the last one, when Belly of course did and scored. Club level he was good of course, but surely the world cup represents world football most. Either way, he looks like getting it and a SPOTY nom.
Quite obviously, Auntie hates horse racing, but Billy is odds on to be champion @20, abundant charisma, on a peoples' horse that might well go to the Breeders' Cup, and the field in this so far is tish. There would definitely be support from the industry, meaning the shortlisting is less likely, but it would be interesting to see the market price him up.
If Hollie Doyle can get a placed finish in this, he should be odds on
Not female no, but of good Irish stock ;)
With seriousness, his parents are great, and there's not much not to like about Billy himself. If he makes champion jockey, he should be a live runner.
With seriousness, his parents are great, and there's not much not to like about Billy himself. If he makes champion jockey, he should be a live runner.
Give owa man. They're never nomming some Irish midget after what happened with the last one
it's a stretch (obviously), but people who have won something significant are pretty thin on the ground atm. and if he is champion jockey aged 20, I could see the sport/rp lobbying for a shortlisting. already has a profile with itv oldster viewers. plus of course, he is synonymous with the horse of the season and champion miler.
get him listed and you can lay me ;)
get him listed and you can lay me ;)
TBF he should at least be listed on BF, as we have great names like Harry Maguire, Bruce Mouat and Tyrell Hatton listed to win it
Hang on, where is Stuart Bingham - he has as much chance as each of those
I've kept 6 consecutive clean sheets at walking footy, just sayin
Kerr wins gold, 1500 record and this is done for the year
Couldn't have even been called a win for the gold - it was a massacre.
In a weak year he's got what he needs for Scots to push him to win SPOTY here - the beeb even owe him it, after snubbing his previous world championship title year. He's also one of few who actually won anything this year. Doesn't need another world record, he has one already this year.
In a weak year he's got what he needs for Scots to push him to win SPOTY here - the beeb even owe him it, after snubbing his previous world championship title year. He's also one of few who actually won anything this year. Doesn't need another world record, he has one already this year.
Yeah but if they strike now and go for the 1500, this is a slam dunk barring something coming out of nowhere
Can't see another in the top 20 even having a chance to do anything
Can't see another in the top 20 even having a chance to do anything
His biggest dangers are both the England footie players, and if they'd won the WC, or even finaled, I probably wouldn't be backing Kerr. But they have the weaknesses of not winning enough, and being in a clear split vote situation likely. With some Scot vote practically a guarantee for Kerr, + plenty general athletics fans who will recognise his wins and record all achieved this year, I think he's already close to a slam dunk personally.
The ghost of a previous army train arrives on the scene...Finucane suddenly in double figures!
Amy hunt could be low by the weekend if ending up with 4 golds
1.2 would be very silly, but there's no doubt she's taken this market apart...
I was of course joking about 1.2 but it's hard to see her beat atm. Though 2 athletes and 2 ballers at the top is def split vote potential.
Her comments on bbc having won her 3rd Gold bigging up her team mates was perfect for spoty.
Winning a 4th gold surely seals it
Winning a 4th gold surely seals it
Kerr probably needs to break 1500 wr, but avoiding euros might cost him a decent run at spoty.
yeah 1500 record and we might get a good lay price but no way a cocky scot/yank beats a women winning 4 golds
As always, the only thing that matters is the price; with four months to go, who knows what yet to happen and for recency bias to exert ever less influence, gotta lay some of it
A cocky female cambridge grad living in italy. They must still be jizzzing over at bbc towers. Only lacking one thing.
It's still pretty hard to adjust to the new world of spoty now where events like european letics championships are considered important. I was AO green from laying the ballers short, so not pocket talking.
It's still pretty hard to adjust to the new world of spoty now where events like european letics championships are considered important. I was AO green from laying the ballers short, so not pocket talking.
| BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2026 -- Winner |
| 64 Runners £94,044 Matched |
| 109.5% | 94.2% | |||||||
| Amy Hunt | 1.75 | 1.76 | 1.77 | 1.78 | 1.79 | 1.82 | £13,037 | |
| £38 | £7 | £17 | £57 | £102 | £18 | |||
| Luke Littler | 9.4 | 9.6 | 10 | 10.5 | 11.5 | 12 | £3,687 | |
| £10 | £5 | £5 | £2 | £2 | £2 | |||
| Harry Kane | 12 | 12.5 | 13 | 16 | 21 | 22 | £14,335 | |
| £15 | £2 | £2 | £2 | £1 | £5 | |||
| Josh Kerr | 11.5 | 12 | 12.5 | 13.5 | 14.5 | 23 | £11,318 | |
| £4 | £16 | £2 | £2 | £1 | £1 | |||
| Matt Weston | 15 | 16 | 18.5 | 26 | 29 | 75 | £13,837 | |
| £3 | £1 | £1 | £12 | £4 | £42 | |||
| Lewis Hamiliton | 22 | 23 | 24 | 29 | 30 | 70 | £2,092 | |
| £4 | £3 | £2 | £10 | £5 | £2 | |||
| Jude Bellingham | 19 | 21 | 22 | 25 | 27 | 32 | £9,982 | |
| £16 | £6 | £3 | £8 | £8 | £6 | |||
| Rory McIlroy | 16.5 | 19.5 | 48 | 180 | 200 | 600 | £7,449 | |
| £6 | £10 | £1 | £3 | £10 | £1 | |||
| plus 56 more runners not listed above, at odds of over 100 |
I think she likely wins it from here (no sh sherlock...) but maybe market now slightly underestimating Kerr - his fundamentals still haven't gone from him as a selection.
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