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By:
Cider
When: 22 Nov 25 13:20
The insiders will get the 1st vote, what are the chances that Tom will be leading it? There's an obvious correlation of the likely lads vote, so if they aren't the final 2, there will be a big shift to the one left.

I have no skin in the game, yet. It's a completely different game now, the OR market on this is effectively who is leading the first vts.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 22 Nov 25 13:27
I agree about Lisa too, backed her down from 65 (Tim will have obv got the 70 and 75).
By:
timbuctooth
When: 22 Nov 25 17:51
Afraid not, 34 my best
By:
Shraine_Tumber
When: 22 Nov 25 18:26
It was me 60 & 65’s
By:
Henry VIII
When: 22 Nov 25 19:00
But we haven't found the 70 & 75 (wasn't much on either anyway). Tim I'm still bitterly disappointed.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 22 Nov 25 19:27
Sorry to disappoint you! I can only claim the lowest lays on Shona and Aitch, so a bit disappointed in myself too...
By:
J.O.TOBIN.
When: 22 Nov 25 23:29
Left £100 up atevens on Tom top 3 should anyone want it, as as I see it he flies or sinks theres not much middle ground hes marmite for me.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Nov 25 10:19

Nov 19, 2025 -- 7:57PM, timbuctooth wrote:


Leviticus 20;13


Reported.

You're better than that aren't you tim?  Or perhaps not

By:
Escapee
When: 25 Nov 25 14:02
He's not better than that.

Has anyone got wind of a video trend currently going viral?
Started off in america when food stamps were stopped by the president.
Some woman phoned round churches asking for help buying baby formula for her 3mo kid.
Only 1 in the 43 churches she contacted offered to help her.

Someone did the same in the UK, same result.
But then she started phoning mosques, every single one of them offered to help.

It says a lot about people like tim.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 25 Nov 25 14:23
It says a lot about USA that they prefer to feed their babies chemical garbage instead of the perfect natural "formula". (They have welfare, nobody starves, but some are so stressed out they want nothing to do with gov. Terrible situation but understandable).
By:
Henry VIII
When: 25 Nov 25 14:26
But I agree about the antagonism creating demonisation of Islam.
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Nov 25 14:41
Charity one of the 5 pillars of Islam I believe and many give a decent percentage of their income to charity every month. So no surprise Mosques were more charitable

And agree with brushy and escapee. Bang out of order Tim
By:
Cider
When: 25 Nov 25 16:02
The premise of the story Escapee recanted is absurd, more chance of Bal winning SCD than it being true. Say (yes it's already pretty dubious), this woman contacted 42 churches and none of them offered assistance, the 43rd did. Why would she then contact mosques. And why multiple mosques if the first one assisted. I presume there aren't too many religions that don't advocate selflessness, it's kind of the genesis of religion.
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Nov 25 17:12
In the American experiment, run by TikToker Nikalie Monroe, she called over 42 places (mostly churches, but also mosques and temples) and received "yes" from nine of them, including a small rural church, two Black churches, a Catholic church, and a mosque.
In the British experiment, TikToker Tawana Musvaburi conducted a similar test in her community, calling over 43 churches, and only one church offered to help, while a local mosque immediately offered assistance.
In both cases, the woman did not actually have a baby in need; the calls were a test to see how places of worship would respond to an urgent need
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Nov 25 17:15
The core of the story appears to be true
By:
Cider
When: 25 Nov 25 17:18
tiktok Cry and we're taking this as gospel [pun intended]

I do know, in a real emergency, most places of worship locked their doors (covid panic).

Generally if people create a fake experiment like that, they'll get the outcome they are seeking.
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Nov 25 17:18
The experiments, documented in viral TikTok videos, sparked a wide debate about church charity and community responsibility. The churches that said no had various reasons, ranging from only helping members to directing her to formal assistance programs, some of which had wait times of days or weeks.
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Nov 25 17:20
Starting to sound more likely than Bal winning stricty Wink
By:
Cider
When: 25 Nov 25 17:26
Just clickbait, and a UK based 'content provider' fancied a piece of that moolah for themselves.
By:
Cider
When: 25 Nov 25 17:42
Having a baby aged 21 wasn’t in Tawana’s plans.

She was, in her own words, "living a wild, crazy life", partying and having fun with friends.

That was until she ended up in hospital after collapsing.

She had no idea why. Then she was told she'd be having a baby in four weeks' time.

"I started having a panic attack," Tawana tells the BBC’s Reliable Sauce podcast.

She was blindsided by the news.

"Because someone is telling you, yeah, you've got four weeks to get your life together."

After being admitted to hospital doctors had asked Tawana to take a pregnancy test before an MRI scan.

She'd dismissed the concern as ridiculous - she had a contraceptive implant in her arm and had shown no symptoms of being pregnant.

And when the test came back negative Tawana was even more convinced she was right.

But a nurse tried to convince the doctor to let her have an ultrasound, as she still believed Tawana might be pregnant.

River's dad, Emmanuel, says when Tawana told him the news that she was due to give birth, he didn't believe her.

"It just didn't make sense at all," he says. "It seemed very miraculous."

Having a baby without any of the typical symptoms such as vomiting or having a noticeable bump is called a cryptic pregnancy.

It’s rare, but Tawana says she was told by doctors that "it’s more common in the black community" to have one.

"[I was told] it's because of our hip and bone structure, the baby doesn't grow outwards, it grows inwards, and we're more likely to become breech," she says.

"So when it was time for me to give birth, my biggest concern was if she was going to be upside down."

While data on cryptic pregnancy isn't readily available, Alison Leary, a professor of healthcare at London South Bank University says there is wider data which suggests there are disparities in maternity care experienced by women from ethnic minorities.

"There have been quite a lot of studies that show women, particularly black women, have poor outcomes in terms of pregnancy and childbirth," she tells BBC Newsbeat.

And she feels there needs to be more research done and available on the specific issue of cryptic pregnancies.

"That's why [it's] quite an important issue even though it affects a small amount of people because if you don't get early access to good maternity care, good antenatal care, you're more likely to experience poor outcomes."

Four weeks and four days after being told she was expecting, Tawana gave birth to River after having her baby shower.

She says she struggled afterwards with post-natal depression, and looked to TikTok to find advice on becoming a young mum at such short notice.

But she says she didn't find anyone else, apart from one woman in the US who had been through similar.

"I went through a really deep depression because it was like, no one's giving me any advice.

"No one's speaking about this. Like, what is it like? And then I think I've seen like one video, which had like 100 views from a girl in America speaking about it.

"And she's literally like the only one that advised me."

Tawana later decided to share her unique experience online, in a video which has since been liked almost 400,000 times.

She's also started a podcast, speaking to other mums.

Tawana says she's shared her story and hopes it can generate more support for young mothers who find out they’re pregnant at the last minute.

She feels she was lucky enough to have financial help from her mum, but she knows that others might not be as fortunate.

Ideally, she'd like a charity to be set up.

"There's no help, so if that is something that has happened to you, how are you coping?"



Never would have guessed !
By:
Cider
When: 25 Nov 25 17:45
'cryptic' pregnancy, analogous with Bobbasauras' scd book :)
By:
timbuctooth
When: 25 Nov 25 18:20
Anyone having a problem with God's word should take it up with Him!
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Nov 25 20:57
Presume you are his messenger on earth so I'm taking it up with you
By:
timbuctooth
When: 25 Nov 25 21:33
Your presumption is incorrect, I am merely a believer
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 25 Nov 25 21:36
Pathetic
By:
five leaves left
When: 25 Nov 25 22:02
Matthew 7:1
By:
timbuctooth
When: 25 Nov 25 22:08
Indeed! I think some forumites would do well to follow it
By:
Henry VIII
When: 25 Nov 25 22:48
george take heed for   1 John 3:8 ESV
By:
stu
When: 26 Nov 25 01:08
Blimey, never thought I'd see a theology discussion going on in the BF specials forum, but wonders never cease in this arena Laugh
By:
five leaves left
When: 26 Nov 25 11:47

Nov 25, 2025 -- 10:08PM, timbuctooth wrote:


Indeed! I think some forumites would do well to follow it


Indeed you do. If you genuinely believe in the old testament verse you posted, then you can f u ( k right off

By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 26 Nov 25 16:40

Nov 25, 2025 -- 10:48PM, Henry VIII wrote:


george take heed for

By:
Henry VIII
When: 26 Nov 25 17:59
We should try to keep hatred and bullying off this forum. I don't believe in the bible myself but as a third of the world do it's arrogant to try and cancel it, or vilify those who believe in it.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 26 Nov 25 18:03
Look up Evelyn Beatrice Hall's famous phrase. It's the bases of Western Democracy.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 26 Nov 25 18:05
Anyway back to IAC - I have dumped Tom. He would have to step up to win now, possible of course.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 26 Nov 25 18:05
* basis
By:
Henry VIII
When: 26 Nov 25 18:33
Actually what I said applies to Tim as well, pretty hateful now I've read it. We should all have a group hug.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 26 Nov 25 18:53
That's laughable Henry.  You'll forgive me, many thanks. Look up what started it again
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 26 Nov 25 18:57
Fairly typical that you didn't even have a clue what you were talking about before you waded in
By:
TheBorg
When: 26 Nov 25 19:03
I. Getting put to death too, I'm sure when I was younger I cursed my parents out!Blush
By:
stu
When: 26 Nov 25 19:10
It's rather odd that we've had this argument emerge now - not exactly the first gay contestant in reality tv is it? Eurovision has been around a long time....not to mention the other shows (Dowling, Rylan, Clary...etc etc...) I think we as specials people should be the very last to be homophobic at all...

I don't get involved in attacking a poster personally - but yes Tim, you should really get with the century we live in at least, in particular as a long time specials punter!
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