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I got lucky on the televote as ended up with Isr red as was continually biting into Croatia. And full loss on Ukr.
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Switzerland 5th in televotes, is that the 1st time 5th place has won overall ?
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Had huge greens on France and Ukraine, if France had won the juries which they were 33% likely to going on odds, or Ukraine had a better slot, it could have been a real great story ! Both in the top 4 is a great result though
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televote was unique wasn't it with essentially two political choices up there, so in the genuine vote for your fav on the night he was 3rd. and monstered the juries so fair enough winner.
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If France had got 271 tele votes we would have had a draw !
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Wish I could look at the odds again but they settle so quickly. Anyone know what price Norway were last place? I got quite a bit matched at short prices on UK
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coming into the event in the last week is so much better than wasting three months analysing each little minutia in the never ending build up.
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i laid norway at 50s.to be last, uk went short
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Didn't see Norway odds. I thought they were awful, but would have enough friends to not finish last, but things have changed with that.
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be fascinating to hear the rationale behind not awarding Croatia any points at all from the juries that did that ....
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1.32 £151.50
1.33 £10.00 1.35 £0.41 £159.29 1.36 £187.97 1.37 £68.73 1.38 £694.31 1.39 £1,657.56 1.4 £0.51 £447.72 1.41 £370.62 1.42 £953.80 1.43 £567.54 1.44 £439.15 1.45 £1,123.68 £1,558.54 1.46 £1,708.04 1.47 £473.98 1.48 £667.43 1.49 £634.46 1.5 £2,794.93 1.51 £1,593.06 1.52 £248.05 Netherlands SF 2 fyi against Switzerland and Israel |
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anyone know tje result of the 2 semi finals. wonder were netherlands disqualified from the compettition or just the final . thanks in advance.
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will be interesting to see viewership numbers for ESC this year. Lots of people saying they were gonna boycott, but I feel those are the same type of people who say they will never post on the forum again. It sure got a lot of attention thanks to Israel's participation, and I expect numbers to be up.
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Saved by a lot of green on Israel to lay, got Swiz to 2nd green. But lessons to be learnt.
40% Israel with 2nd on 8%, never happened before, but hindsight is a great thing. Italy "votes leak" and Sweden - was that the dodgy campaign? |
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Netherlands qualified successfully in the semifinal, but afterwards an incident happened that led to their disqualification from the final.
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Important info to remember for next year is early starts are no disadvantage with the new rules. Both Ukraine and Israel with big televote scores.
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be fascinating to hear the rationale behind not awarding Croatia any points at all from the juries that did that ....
similar to Finland last year. whole of Europe says it's the best song in the competition, few of the juries think it's not worthy of even 1 point .... Norwegian public gave Croatia 12 points, Norwegian jury gave it nothing. are they watching the same thing ?? |
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Think I said it last year 50/50 is too much power for the juries. 70 tele/30 juries or something like that would be more fair. If you just do televotes it would be much less exciting.
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and more predictable.
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Likely jurors protecting themselves from the online mob, rather than ebu direction. The toys are already out of the pram re Israel winning the UK pv.
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Belgian, Spanish and San Marino public all gave Croatia 8.
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2nd post on this thread, well played
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307 Ukraine, 323 Israel, 337 Croatia in televotes. Can't remember it like this ! Israel would have been the wrong winners as these votes were politically motivated !
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Juries in general like nice ballads, great singing voices, that type of thing. Not gimmicky stuff like Croatia or Holland. With no Israel Palestine war juries would vote Israel top 3 imo, but then it would have likely not done as well with the viewers due to less hype and "support Israel" stuff.
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the Belgian jury gave 6 to United Kingdom and zero to Croatia
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can justify it by saying they're gay
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Belgian jury gave UK 6 more points than the whole of the European and Worldwide public gave it
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ABBA didn't get points from UK, I don't think Loreen did either. Or they got very low scores.
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Definitely some rigging. Croatia gave Switzerland 0 points in the jury
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Tactical jury voting
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I'm a big boy now, I'm going away and I sold my cow. Rim-tim-tagi-digi, rim-tim-tagi-digi, rim-tim-tagi-digi, rim-tim-tagi-digi rim-tim-tagi-digi, rim-tim-tagi-digi rim-tim-tagi-digi, digi-digi-digi-digi gonna miss you all, but mostly the cat.
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Belgian jury - UK 6 Croatia 0
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