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SPOTY Top 3 Best play
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BBC aren't going to pay fortunes for sporting events that now attract relatively tiny audiences. The daily mail would be seething. Athletics was huge when I was young. For the reasons already stated. Live sport was a rarity. The recent WC only had about a million of so tuning in on primetime BBC
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emma raducanu done something very notable, the last runner for this that I got behind (betting). Think she is female :) But it's not gone too well for her subsequently, I thought she could have been the next global tennis superstar :(
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I blame Gabby Logan, Denise Lewis and Jess Ennis
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Limpics and euros. Should be a pretty good market in 2024
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Dinnar stu, you are normally pretty well housetrained. No wonder your missus goes to stay with her sister
That is who 'trains' me  |
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lol Fig, are you trying to claim that the BBC doesn't waste money on output nobody watches ! I thought that was the reason for its existence, that the output didn't need to have the requirements of commercial justification (ie high viewing numbers).
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Women can eff off like, man's year ;-)
Think I'll go back to my traditional laying everything and working out what i was wrong to lay later |
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Like I mentioned, the one that got me was the RTV events both IAC and BB going for the male winners - they buck the trend for supporting the females.
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Both very female friendly of course. Can a jason or jim still win?
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Olivia a big casualty (and arguably Trish) in that respect.
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Good question about the alpha types - Bellew went close though.
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lol Ofc they waste money on programming than no one watches. As you say, that's their raison d'etre. But when they accidentally make something people do like, other channels, with more money, buy the shows. That's what's happened with most sport. Apart from the events that can't be sold to the highest bidder
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We're starting to see that with women's football
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The debate from my perspective is not that a female won, it's why she won. In my view because of where BBC have taken sport and what it wants its audience to be and think. That doesn't mean it's not a betting opportunity any more, but it's outside of my arc.
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Earps won because she's the best female goalkeeper in the world
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It's really that simple
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Just as T&D won because they were the best at dancing on ice
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.. as was Robin Cousins and the other fella
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It's what I'm getting at, I suppose. I was quite into female cricket when I still paid for sky sports.
It's not like men's sport is great, and women's sport is pants. In my view they broadly have a different appeal, and attract a different audience. And the audience probably overlaps with the people that would still watch spoty. I could liken it to cinema. You could have two amazing films, both could win an oscar. But appeal to two totally different audiences. |
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Women's tennis is a great sport, competitive and with a real history.
Football and cricket in the women's game is nothing in comparison - I personally think it's more about that sort of heritage question, as the modern versions are pretended to be worthy well established competitions, when they basically are not. |
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They may become true sports given time of course.
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Womens Football has a very long history. It was huge in the 1930's, until men decided to ban it
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It will all be sky soon, so you won't need to worry about another Lioness winning
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A historical blip though really as a sport?
The 'well established' issue is also more than just about history - it's about comparing minority sport (the women's) to majority sport (the men's). It's like judging a winner of a village competition is as good as someone who competes or wins in an international. Like I say, I rate women's sports where the field is very strong e.g. Tennis. |
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I'd also rate women's athletics for same reason - highly competitive to become near the top.
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So Broad not a worthy winner either. A minority sport mostly played by public school boys and only played in Countries that were part of the British Empire
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Spoty only open to footballers (male) Tennis players and Athletes then, Anyone else?
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I'm not a fan of cricket for the same reason actually!
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There's many sports that are massively competitive and have high numbers, with difficult levels to overcome at each stage - but, whichever way it's looked at, there are less of those in the women's sports.
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That's because they're too busy washing up and doing the hoovering
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not arguing that it wasn't a societal reason women didn't play as much, that's probably true too. |
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But I'm sure a lot of that social reason also came from women themselves too in many cases - they didn't have as much interest in sport overall. They are closer now, but still not there - unlike the 'myth' the media like to present.
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Of all the women I personally know, I'd estimate about 10% of them are actively interested in sport, and about 70%+ actually hate it all!
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Look at stu, he 'knows' ten women
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9 of them are on adultwork :)
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20, so I just halved it on the figures. Seriously though, do people find the women in their friends and families really love sport (as much as the men)? |
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Young lasses are different tbf
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Age is a factor I'd agree with that - the younger ones more likely to be the sport followers. Times may change for sure given the trend.
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Sunderland always have had the highest proportion of female season ticket holders in the country, so i speak from a position of long term enlightenment :)
I actually went to games when meado was playing too, great to see what she achieved |