Nov 27, 2022 -- 9:00PM, Ramruma wrote:

Re fruit machines: this 15-minute video purporting to explain how they work went up on Youtube yesterday.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EomDfEAIcC0

Sounds like the travel reservations and ships in international waters have there own rules, bit like our fairgrounds by the sounds of it lol and my experience of them are the machines are set to the lowest percentage and your're lucky if they have a float inside. Tbh i've avoided them big time over the years as you can imagine even well run fairground arcades won't be very welcoming to the pro player.

'Each and every pull on a slot machine is a completely independent mathematical event, it is not influenced in anyway by what's happened up till that point'

Ok lets start here, and you have to remember UK and American machines are set up differently. Im not sure if there are any compensated machines outside of the UK, the definition above is how a 'random' machine is programmed.
A compensated fruit machine in the UK is definitely influenced by previous game play, so if its played very badly for a period of time, then that machines percentage will rise and rise over its setting of say 78% which most are set at around pubs. A lot higher for arcades btw, closer to 90%. If then i come along and play the machine correctly i will win very, very quickly.
A machine being played correctly will hover around its percentage of 78% and will be tougher to win out of.

As he points out nobody actually knows what the percentage is based on ?
So is it 78% of £100,000 or 78% of 100,000 plays or different amounts, this is the one thing that nobody has ever worked out or knows about. The machine returns 78% of what ?
As i have said and he mentions the percentage can go above and even below its setting of 78% depending how its been played. It goes above when generally played very badly for long periods. Its rare it goes under its percentage and it happens when you force a win that the machine didn't really want to give you. The machine would then go into a minus mode and play terribly until getting back to its standard 78%.

Random machines

Both here and America have random machines but i believe they are set up very differently.
He says they use a random number generator for each and every spin depending when you hit start.
So here on a random machine if you press start after 1 second from last spin it will land say cherry cherry melon, but say you press start after two seconds instead it will still give the cherry cherry melon. Im not certain on this, that's my guess but those rules would definitely apply to a compensated machine, as every spin is pre-determined.
What he's basically saying is the machines over there are not pre-determined and every spin no matter when you press start is determined by a random number generator. So if you hit start after 1 second you may get cherry cherry melon, but if you had waited 2 seconds the outcome would of been different, say melon cherry cherry. I actually never knew this so very interesting, I thought all machines every where were pre-dtermined and would give the same outcome no matter how long between each press.

It basically means random machines either here or there are virtually impossible to figure out a system to beat them, no matter how good you are on machines. Hence the reason pro's only target compensated machines. As far as i know and i know a lot of players from around the country, there has never been methods on random machines. Unless there is a serious flaw in the programming that is to allow you to manipulate it into paying all its money out, but that is a completely separate topic. Under normal playing conditions they are unbeatable. Hence the word 'random'

hope this helps

Nov 28, 2022 -- 12:47PM, Cider wrote:

Owen won the h2h. Almost certain that the alleged b2 at the last five was indeed fake.

Can you say for certain Owen won the hth? No, depends how many votes were cast in both sections

Nov 28, 2022 -- 12:05AM, GeorgeBrush wrote:

All good tim, just had to finish constant Betfairing due to the lack of liquidity, pc and my business demanding constant attention.

Nov 29, 2022 -- 3:08PM, Lifter wrote:

Being "nice" is perhaps the number one trait to winning IAC. It's why putting a line through Boy George, Chris Moyles, etc... was so easy. I guess more women tend to have that trait. Someone can be super entertaining, but complain or bitch for 2 seconds, and their run is over.

You missed the Charlie brooks series then. :)

To be fair that was an outlier