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Interesting debate about whether last year's winner won because she was the most entertaining,or because she was TCO and had most airtime.
It's a chicken and egg situation really.Did she get most airtime because she was entertaining,or was she the most entertaining because she had the most airtime ? It's understandable to take the latter view given that she is now hosting the spin off show this year,the suspicion being that this was always the plan. TBH I've no idea in which order it works.This year we will have 3 former winners featuring prominently in the spin off show,namely Vicki,Joe and Stacey.Was they all pre planned winners,or are they here now simply by the virtue of being winners? As I say,chicken and egg. My view is that certain contestants are favoured in the edit,predominantly because they provide the best entertainment.Arguments will be shown,as Will funny instances and moments of interesting conversation.Last year having backed Ferne to win,I had absolutely no complaints over how the show was edited in the last few days.....she was simply beaten by someone who was more popular.It could actually be argued that Ferne received the most favourable edit,especially in the Final. |
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I'm hoping that this year Sam proves to be worthy of airtime owing to a fun loving personality and a "pleased to be here" attitude.
I'm also hopeful that given her pleasant appearance and intelligence it may have crossed the minds of someone in the TV world that she could have a career in this area . |
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It's laughable to suggest that the prods don't try to influence the results on this show. CB is just teasing forumites clearly! From the BT, loading questions from prods, to who gets the trials, **** trials, who gets the dingo dollar challenges or whatever they're called, when the vote is open and closed, A&D's commentary, footage that only appears on itv2, footage that doesn't get shown at all. Ashleigh had that bizarre constant pimping her year and subsequently we found out she was signed a DOI judge. It's irrelevant though in the sense that it's our job to identify who will be supported, and who will provide enough material to be supported. Vicky crashed within a few minutes of her entrance, not because she was pimped but because she was quick witted and lively with the 'bantz' especially with A&D. If she could keep that up for 3 weeks, and the prods didn't try to nobble her she was always likely to win. Effectively she had an unassailable lead in the final and the prods knew that didn't have to give her a favoured last day (imho)
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ffs r1gg ed
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No one is suggesting that the producers don't exert influence on the result, but it's a question of degree. When you have a supposed talent contest where you get performances dubbed like with 5AM, fake cut and paste praise such as with the Fillipino girls and live vocals deliberately obfuscated, that is the field of manipulation this show is pitted against. This is the least manipulated reality show with the fairest eviction procedure and where the main segment is for the main out of the prods hands. They don't want the same people doing the BTTs every time, but often they can do almost nothing about it. When they did have a choice in the final 3 they gave Ferne the eating trial and she still finished third. Of course by that time they knew Vicky was almost certain to win whatever they did and perhaps they hoped the eating trial would help Ferne finish runner up. Ferne's star rose with the Chris Eubank incident and peaked with the snakes. Kieron Dyer's star rose by standing up for Lady C. Nothing much to do with the prods. When Vicky Ferne and the MIC fella entered the jungle, they all performed the same trial, but one of them stole the show. That wasn't prod's influence, that was due to the girl's personality.
When you have someone producing very entertaining footage such as with Eric Bristow or Lady C you don't choose not to show it because it's not fair. Ofc they would like these characters to stay as long as possible. I do happen to know that they kept the phone lines open long enough to save John Fashanu one time, but that was purely becuase he was providing the best footage. Pretty sure they did something similar with Peter Andre for the same reason, so it's not like it never happens. |
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It's more akin to BB where they have up to 24 hours of footage to fit into 25 minutes of television. It's heavily influences by producers, but in a different way as it's not a 2 minute performance from each runner. They do everything nowadays in their power to push the pv the way they want to go, but as you'll be fully aware the public don't always play ball. It's the same as bb also in that the live feed has long since gone, so where we used to see good stuff that didn't make the edit, or was cut in a favourable way, nowadays we are in ignorant bliss.
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Last year the producers took a deliberate turn in the direction of a younger more GS type of edit, it had previously had a more gentle middle england feel imo
Vicki's GS bantz is not everyone's cup of tea, if they want the same type of show this year Scarlett could be steered over the line with ease, just put her in every clip and feed her the lines in the bush telegraph  |
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Being easy on the eye is of no advantage in this show. Most of the eye candy in the past have been voted off early or mid-pack for bringing little to the table personality-wise. From what I've seen of Sam Quek in interviews, she seems a bit of a cold fish. Unless she can fake some warmth and humour I don't see her coming close to winning.
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Faking sincerity is a tough ask....hope all is well with you and yours Mark
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Hillary`s been doing it for a lifetime.
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...and look what happened to her
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Though at the rate Trump is backtracking he might outdo her in the fakery stakes
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Thought your train deserved a little bump.
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So Joe thinks Scarlett might not make the final three?
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ooops wrong fred
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FFS CB it was very close to dropping off the page
  Done amazingly really to reach the last 4 given the amount of airtime she's had. |
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11 Nov 16 19:03
"There's a lot to like about Sam, but I don't think she'll feature that much, except in the shower" ............ My apologies for getting the bit about the shower wrong.  |
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Carol to blame for that
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I reckon she has been getting through on about 7% most nights may have topped 10 tonight
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As with the overwhelming majority of forumites, I can only hazard a wild stab in the dark as to why Sam has survived so long and from where/whom her votes are coming. Having seen off eight other runners I am more than happy to risk her going further at what seems to me a rather reckless price of 65+. Given the unknown nature of her vote to date I certainly see no value in laying that price (or maybe I’m just a scaredy cat). Overall more than happy to take her a very cheap green and hope the apparently inexplicable continues.
On top of this, she seems like a decent sort and I would be delighted to see TPTB thwarted. As nobody has said yet this series.....CHAAAAAARGE! |