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By:
Henry VIII
When: 14 May 16 12:32
Big shame there's no algorithm.

That Sun article has a video of some of Sergey's song and some of a flattering interview with him, both of which will give him a boost over the other countries. Good to see the Sun in the Sergey camp.
By:
bearcub
When: 14 May 16 12:33
He has the Scouse vote nailed Crazy
By:
Corbyguy
When: 14 May 16 12:40
Nah the Scouse will be rooting for Joe and Jake they like a good ole pub song they do.
By:
bearcub
When: 14 May 16 12:52
Spotify figs are on esctracker, Frans doing best, followed by France, Russia,Oz, Spain


On the Viral 50 charts....

UK..        France 15, Spain 29
Belgium..   France 2
Spain..     Bulgaria 10, France 15, Uk 20
Finland..   OZ 8
France..    Bulgaria 42
Ireland..   Bulgaria 7
Lithuan..   Sweden 7
Latvia..   Sweden 35
Malta..     Spain 7
Nethers..   Spain 7
Norway..    France 4, Nethers 14
Poland..    France 8
Sweden..    Georgia 9,Croatia 20, Spain 23, France 25
By:
George Bailey
When: 14 May 16 12:56
Henry said eastern europe streams rather than downloads but can't see much evidence of that on spotify...lots of different streaming sites I guess though
By:
Henry VIII
When: 14 May 16 12:57
Words being put into my mouth again. I didn't say they stream. I said they download from free servers.
By:
George Bailey
When: 14 May 16 12:58
Don't know what the Viral 50 is but Bulgaria doing well there but not on itunes/spotify. Looked easy after last year but seems 12 months is a long time for finding different ways to access music.
By:
George Bailey
When: 14 May 16 12:59

May 14, 2016 -- 12:57PM, Henry VIII wrote:


Words being put into my mouth again. I didn't say they stream. I said they download from free servers.


Unmeasurable then?

By:
George Bailey
When: 14 May 16 12:59
Don't blame me Henry I hacked bear's dossier on you Plain
By:
Henry VIII
When: 14 May 16 13:01
iTunes still important even with western bias.

Dami has overtaken Sergey on it now.
By:
George Bailey
When: 14 May 16 13:04
itunes still the gold standard for me
By:
George Bailey
When: 14 May 16 13:05
You were right re waiting Henry...likely to be an expensive lesson for me but one mistake I won't repeat
By:
bearcub
When: 14 May 16 13:06
To get a top 10 itunes hit in some countries takes 10 copies, it's worthless outside the big download countries
By:
Henry VIII
When: 14 May 16 13:06
We're all learning all the time in this game.
By:
honestcl
When: 14 May 16 13:50
For the traders amongst you I'll stick my neck on the line and say that Sweden will get off to a flyer tonight.  My last throw of the dice to counteract the likely Russia win. 

Frans nailed the jury final last night and with a load of Swede friendly countries in the first few to vote, I'm confident the 26 will be lower than that for a trade.

Recent years we had a Hungary off to a flyer in 2014 (80 during interval down to 6 after a few votes)
2015 - Serbia down to 11 after first vote having traded way higher
2010 - Denmark famously down to 2.0 after starting with 2 douze points to start having traded in well into double figures for weeks beforehand, before Lena's landslide
By:
George Bailey
When: 14 May 16 13:53
Said similar for Italy last year...worked like a dream iirc apart from the market moving too quick for me Sad
By:
Corbyguy
When: 14 May 16 16:15
Gavster of ESCTips - Eurovision 2016: Final Betting Preview http://tinyurl.com/hh6hc7n

Make of it what you like.
By:
Corbyguy
When: 14 May 16 16:24
Daniel of Sofabet: Eurovision 2016: The grand final http://tinyurl.com/zww6ua3

Again, make of it what you will.
By:
Tom_Ato
When: 14 May 16 17:18
the real value right now is with Ukraine at 16s, recent stats and topping the press poll show they are very much in contention. It is likely to have scored highly with juries, add to that their voting allies and narrative and I think this price is massive. Australia will possibly struggle with the televote in the East and although it is a very strong live performance it ain't no Conchita moment. It's Russia or Ukraine for me.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 May 16 17:33
Nice to see Gavster and Daniel have become very late converts to the charms of Austria. Must have read the `le taxi` thread...
By:
armagnac
When: 14 May 16 17:39
what soup says
By:
glory hornet
When: 14 May 16 18:07
save  me trawling through loads of pages , final draw anyone ?
By:
glory hornet
When: 14 May 16 18:08
sorry , found the draw , but no breaks marked up anyone
By:
Corbyguy
When: 14 May 16 18:11
breaks i believe is between 12. Poland and 13. Australia, then between 19. Spain and 20. Latvia.
By:
glory hornet
When: 14 May 16 18:12
thanks
By:
George Bailey
When: 14 May 16 18:19
May be useful re order and effect

.https://andrewinthekitchen.wordpress.com/2016/05/13/eurovision-song-contest-2016-running-order-and-final-predictions/
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 May 16 18:24
Top two equating to nearly 1/4??? Gotta take`em on.
By:
five leaves left
When: 14 May 16 18:41
Not usually a good move to oppose the market on Eurovision. Good luck though. One year it would be nice to see the winner come as a surprise to the market
By:
Cider
When: 14 May 16 18:56
Next year would be fine.
By:
Petraco
When: 14 May 16 18:58
Is there any 'value' in laying the Ruski's or is this a done deal?

Any possibility that Oz get the "Anyone but Russia" voters?

Mischief
By:
Cider
When: 14 May 16 19:03
Most people are expecting Russia to be beaten in the jury vote, and be behind at halfway. This is a new format, so exactly how the market will play out ir is anyone's guess.
By:
Petraco
When: 14 May 16 19:07
Okie dokie Cool
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 May 16 19:21
Opposing the possibly informed money has lead to many a red for me, fll. But all they know already is the jury vote, plenty of change possible tonight, rven if only for trading. We`re not guaranteed Sergey won`t faint again, and I`m not really seeing what separates the Australia power ballad from any number of others to justify the price.
By:
honestcl
When: 15 May 16 00:01
Tom_Ato

the real value right now is with Ukraine at 16s, recent stats and topping the press poll show they are very much in contention. It is likely to have scored highly with juries, add to that their voting allies and narrative and I think this price is massive. Australia will possibly struggle with the televote in the East and although it is a very strong live performance it ain't no Conchita moment. It's Russia or Ukraine for me.
_______

After months of deliberating whether it would appeal widely enough, it was your post that made me top up on Ukraine and make it a very nice night

Cheers squire.  GrinGrin
By:
armagnac
When: 15 May 16 00:09
best soup in town Cool
By:
Tom_Ato
When: 15 May 16 00:15
I'm actually crying. I can afford KFC for the next 10 years, anything I want. No more popcorn chicken, from now on only chicken strips.
By:
Henry VIII
When: 15 May 16 00:52
Nice one Tom.
By:
George Bailey
When: 15 May 16 01:24
Yes excellent call Tom
By:
Corbyguy
When: 15 May 16 19:38
Denmark: Incorrect 12 points to Ukraine. http://eurovoix.com/2016/05/15/denmark-incorrect-12-points-to-ukraine/

Australia should have got the 12 points and Ukraine should have got 0. The lead of Ukraine over Australia instead of being 23 points would now be 9 points. Nothing is mentioned as of yet on the official Eurovision jury/televote split of full ranking page as of yet.
By:
Corbyguy
When: 15 May 16 19:48
If the voting system had not had been changed for the final and was still the same as last years combined voting then the winner would have been Australia followed by Ukraine and then Russia according to this result i found on the internet: http://imgur.com/dZvHOl2
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