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goonjim 27 Dec 14 01:25 Joined: 07 May 11 | Topic/replies: 236 | Blogger: goonjim's blog
is their market settled on overnight figures? if not then i guess that's why they haven't settled yet It's like getting blood out of a stone,, they are saying they are waiting for the official BARB figures. But they dont know when these will be released or when they will settle the market. In fairness l have always found them to be good prior to this but will never bet on a market like this with them again. |
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official figures are usually about a fortnight i believe
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The thing is, Overnights are official figures.
Consolidated data incorporates playback of time-shifted content within 7 days of the original broadcast. This timeshift viewing is added to the live data to produce consolidated viewing data made available 8 days after the original transmission date. Consolidated data is the BARB Gold Standard used by the industry to report and trade on. Conventionally this market is settled on the Overnights. Clearly this is because you wouldn't want to wait a number of days or weeks to settle the market. It's also the overnights that are reported in the media as the 'winner'. Only the specialist media is concerned with consolidated figures. Sounds like a cop out by 365, because TQS will be reported separately in the consolidated figures as well. The chances are however that it will be overtaken by something that was more likely to be recorded. I doubt many people watch TQS after Xmas day. If they choose to settle on consolidated because it suits their book this year, it won't end there. |
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I did a quick bit of research, and as suspected TQS has no chance on consolidated. It only picked up between 100K - 200K on consolidated last year.
(Approximation of consolidated increases last year) DW 2.8 MBB 2.1 CTM 2.1 DA 1.9 EE 1.6 SCD 1.5 CS 1.4 Obviously there are variables, DW regeneration, MBB on later this year, etc. |
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Link to the numbers from 2012
.http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jan/02/eastenders-downton-abbey-christmas-day-tv |
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You can check them on the Barb site for free in a couple of weeks
Just put in the week in the top 30 section http://www.barb.co.uk/whats-new/weekly-top-30? MBB won last year on consolidated too, with 11.52M |
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lol at this analysis of TQS topping Overnight numbers
Lizo Mzimba, entertainment correspondent, BBC News Some might be surprised to see the Queen top of the overnight TV ratings, but it is not unexpected, at least in that initial snapshot of who watched what on Christmas Day. It is one of the few programmes that people and families still like to sit down and watch as it is broadcast. It has the added appeal of being shown on more than one channel. Nothing to do with the abdication rumours then ![]() |
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lol yep. Even my mum had heard about the rumours
I've just seen the barb consolidated figures on their site, don't appear to include +1. So the ITV ones aren't right |
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My opinion, the market should only be based upon the day, ie the Overnights. The market is about the most watched programme on Xmas day, not the programme that was broadcast on Xmas day but recorded and viewed several days later included.
HD, +1 and timelapse on Xmas day should also be included. ie any viewings on the same day added together. I wasn't around for the morning of the TQS price crash, but my suspicion is that 365 were slow to update the prices and have a big liability on TQS courtesy of arbers. It's 1000 that TQS will top the consolidated figures. |
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Official B.A.R.B results not out until January 5th Bet365 paying nothing until then.
It's a bit of a farce at this stage. The overnight results make more sense to go by. People watching on +1 stations or recording programmes and watching a few later shouldn't be counted in the Top Programme watched on Xmas day. |
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watching a few days later
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Who are you on, Rob?
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Mrs Browns Boys
They are saying they think it's the winner and expect to pay out on it. I think your theory on them being slow to change The Queens price is correct myself and thats why they are doing this. |
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I know in the past when I had accounts with the firms, some of them stipulated that they would pay out on the BARB figures after about two weeks. Pretty certain VC was one of them. Don't know about 365 though.
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Christmas Day TV – the consolidated top 10
1. Mrs Brown’s Boys, BBC1, 9.7m 2. Call The Midwife, BBC1, 9.4m 3. Strictly Come Dancing, BBC1, 9m 4. Miranda, BBC1, 8.7m 5. EastEnders, BBC1, 8.6m 6. Doctor Who BBC1, 8.3m 7. Queen’s message, BBC1/ITV, 8.2m 8. Coronation Street, ITV, 8m 9. Downton Abbey, ITV, 7.7m 10. Emmerdale, ITV, 6.7m |
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thanks cider did you get off the B.A.R.B website l still haven't been paid by the fookers
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From the Guardian website .http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jan/02/tv-ratings-mrs-browns-boys-dethrones-queen
They are the BARB figures that are only available to media/subscribers initially I think. |
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I don't really enjoy comedies as I have a rather dry sense of humour but I decided to watch MBB'S and I do have to say it's really funny and done in front of an audience.
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I agree looky. I used to avoid it as I didn't think it would be my thing, but it's a very decent comedy show. Unlike Miranda it's actually funny
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Yeah - I went shopping to sainsburys late last night and there was a boxset for only £15 and I was going to buy it.
Miranda is sooooo boring! |
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If you find TM, I'll buy it from you. Good to see you shopping in sainsburys too
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Only went as they sent me loads of vouchers - spend £60 and get £12 off
![]() Actually they always have the last laugh as I spend too much on things I don't really need. |
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The share price will be flying on Monday now
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I even got my turkey from them this year as M&S let me down
![]() I went xmas shopping on the 23rd dec and finished up in M&S at around 11.00pm for my food shopping and they had no turkeys left and I had to drive 20 miles to get a free range turkey at Sainsbury and when I arrived the manager told me that they were closing 11.55pm and I had 2 min's to get the turkey and pay. |
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It was very nice and cooked to perfection, even if I do say so myself
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I hope you filled up with petrol while there too
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Ha ha I did. Are you watching me on CCTV
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Just some simple deduction
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I got double points
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still no payout from 365 on anything .
even tho on the front of the B.A.R.B website the official results are there it is turning into one big farce with them. |
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I'm in no hurry to get my cash, but it is getting a bit silly now.
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Cider what do you make of this.
Was just on to 365 again and now there saying it mightn't be settled until the end of january going by last year. Why are they being so cautious. Am I right in thinking Mrs Browns is 100% the winner.? here is a radio times link which gives detailed results http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-01-03/mrs-brown-more-popular-than-the-queen-according-to-christmas-day-viewing-figures |
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I've no idea what they're playing at, Rob. I did contact their live help, and just got some fobbing off standard template answers.
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Settled, finally.
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The correct way?
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MBB has been weighed in, not sure about TQS.
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