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By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 14:55
no fig, i think its the end for these 'nobody celebs'
kaput
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 14:57
It's irrelevant whether they're 'non celebs' or world champion motor bike riders. It's how they perform on the show that matters

Chantelle won because she was an extremely likable young woman at time
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 14:58
the public want celebs that have or are still famous too some degree, not goons you see on normal big brother who are trying to be famous and are just in there playing up and acting to get 'seen'

RTV overload has kicked in
By:
squares
When: 03 Dec 14 14:59
agree with that,

I am just saying that Chantelle's situation was a unique one and I don't believe she can be compared to George Gilbey, Nadia Forde, various unknown models and Americans, because she was the central figure of that series' particular "storyline".
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:00
how they perform on a celebrity program that is for celebs
they couldnt give a sh1t how he performs, they dont want him there full stop
and certainly not acting like a dog with two d1cks
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:00
The viewers of these shows are fed up with TOWIE types who are usually dull, pointless, personality free zones
By:
squares
When: 03 Dec 14 15:01
i would say in a name the photos type competition, Jake would have been easy enough for most viewers to name ahead of a number of other contestants.
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:02
jake is in the same cat fig, thats how the viewers will see it
especially as he's trying too hard like a BB contestant
already saying how am i going too handle this and what can i do next
blah blah blah
viewer dont care
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:04

Dec 3, 2014 -- 2:59PM, squares wrote:


agree with that,I am just saying that Chantelle's situation was a unique one and I don't believe she can be compared to George Gilbey, Nadia Forde, various unknown models and Americans, because she was the central figure of that series' particular "storyline".


True squares, but George in particular could easily have won if he hadn't been such a tw@t. There was a lot of good will for him when he went in

By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:05
im calling it, jake does not win
pretty dam confident too
he's always been my smallest green for that reason
he was a bit default for me earlier v mel and bullard

but i sense the older lot will hack past the front two now
By:
squares
When: 03 Dec 14 15:06
I agree,

he went in as well known through being on a popular current TV show, and obviously with a lot of goodwill as perceived to be likeable on that show.

But there is no Chanelle comparison as she went in unknown as was the intention.
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:06
There was a lot of good will for him when he went in

was there though ?
or were the viewers fed up by then of RTV folk
if not, he and WD done irreparable damage to there reputation
By:
squares
When: 03 Dec 14 15:07
with FLL that is.

I just don't think all these repeated Chantelle references during these shows are comparing like with like.  That was a one off and part of the storyline of that particular series.

Like Rage Against The Machine is likely to be a one off as per comments on the Xmas No 1 thread.
By:
squares
When: 03 Dec 14 15:08
There was certainly perceived to be goodwill for him.
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:09
well not anymore
By:
squares
When: 03 Dec 14 15:10
obviously Crazy
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:11
he was a grade 1 tosspot tbf
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:13
which is why he didn't win. Not because he was a RTV 'star'
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:16
so why is there so many people moaning about these RTV lately.
do you not think they are voters fig
i for one are fed up to the back teeth of them
jake going in annoyed the hell out of me
he took up a space Floella Benjamin could of had

there is a big % of viewers fed up fig
just admit it ffs
By:
squares
When: 03 Dec 14 15:16
I think with RTV "stars" like lots of other "stars" from soaps, music, all aspects of the entertainment industry there are some the viewers initially think they would like to see more of and there are others they probably think they have seen all they have to offer already.

Oc the former can then disappoint and the latter can step up to the mark.
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:17
there all ****s squares
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:18
RTV people are as likable as floating sh1t
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:18
at least you can finally flush that way eventually
RTV folk stain the screen for years
By:
squares
When: 03 Dec 14 15:22
so do you tar all XF peeps with the same brush as Jake?

Joe McElderly has won just about every RTV show going.
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:23
Stacey also one of the best and easiest winners of this show
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:24
he took up a space Floella Benjamin could of had

LaughLaughLaugh Thank God for that
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:24
they've only just become annoying to the viewer squares imo

celeb shows like big brother and the jungle, the viewer wants too see actual long term celebs
that is why CBB have banned all fakes
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:25
Devil fig
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:26
im right im always right
will be proved right when joke dont win
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:27
they've banned them because they've all been fooking useless

Love her or hate her, GS has been the only one with a personality
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:27
From the scripted reality shows that is
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:28
worthless green on jake fig.
get on burk before its too late
you can never have too much
he's DS poll leader now and will stay there
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:28
been banned coz of complaints fig
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:29
Just a cheap headline
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:30
Grin
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:30
lol I'm on Burkm, but as squares says, you can't compare these scripted reality shows, which are watched by 1M or les, with someone who has appeared on a show that is still watched by 10M on a good week
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:32
That's more than watched Superbikes Wink
By:
armagnac
When: 03 Dec 14 15:32
yeah he done well on that Crazy
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:34
True. He was my original pick. Altho he's improved of late he's still shown himself to be selfish and too self centred for my liking. Including last night
By:
five leaves left
When: 03 Dec 14 15:36
Jake is far more of a team player, which is why I think he's a worthy fav and the most likely winner
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