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I thought we needed one on here.
We might have to wait for a market though, with Turkey and Bosnia having withdrawn and others threatening do the same.
We might have to wait for a market though, with Turkey and Bosnia having withdrawn and others threatening do the same.
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never thought i'd see this - Billy Bragg on Loose Women now
I think I was saved this year from my own recklessness by not having much time – I would have probably backed Ireland against UK. Made nothing on Denmark, reasonable amount T10 and semis.
The Italian public vote.
Semifinal 1:
1 Ukraine 42.3%
2 Moldova 15.5%
3 Lithuania 5.7%
4 Serbia 4.8%
5 Denmark 4.3%
6 Russia 4.1%
7 Belarus 3.4%
8 Belgium 3%
9 The Netherlands 2.9%
10 Montenegro 2.6%
11 Estonia 2.5%
12 Croatia 2.4%
13 Ireland 2.2%
14 Slovenia 1.5%
15 Cyprus 1.5%
16 Austria 1.3%
Final:
1 Romania 23.20%
2 Moldova 13.79%
3 Ukraine 13.23%
4 Greece 11.94%
5 Russia 5.01%
6 Denmark 3.20%
7 Malta 3.07%
8 Hungary 2.93%
9 Azerbaijan 2.47%
10 Lithuania 2.27%
11 Georgia 1.95%
12 Norway 1.77%
13 The Netherlands 1.64%
14 Armenia 1.60%
15 Ireland 1.54%
16 Spain 1.51%
17 Belarus 1.46%
18 Germany 1.20%
19 Iceland 1.09%
20 Finland 1.04%
21 Belgium 0.98%
22 Estonia 0.95%
23 Sweden 0.84%
24 United Kingdom 0.80%
25 France 0.52%
Semifinal 1:
1 Ukraine 42.3%
2 Moldova 15.5%
3 Lithuania 5.7%
4 Serbia 4.8%
5 Denmark 4.3%
6 Russia 4.1%
7 Belarus 3.4%
8 Belgium 3%
9 The Netherlands 2.9%
10 Montenegro 2.6%
11 Estonia 2.5%
12 Croatia 2.4%
13 Ireland 2.2%
14 Slovenia 1.5%
15 Cyprus 1.5%
16 Austria 1.3%
Final:
1 Romania 23.20%
2 Moldova 13.79%
3 Ukraine 13.23%
4 Greece 11.94%
5 Russia 5.01%
6 Denmark 3.20%
7 Malta 3.07%
8 Hungary 2.93%
9 Azerbaijan 2.47%
10 Lithuania 2.27%
11 Georgia 1.95%
12 Norway 1.77%
13 The Netherlands 1.64%
14 Armenia 1.60%
15 Ireland 1.54%
16 Spain 1.51%
17 Belarus 1.46%
18 Germany 1.20%
19 Iceland 1.09%
20 Finland 1.04%
21 Belgium 0.98%
22 Estonia 0.95%
23 Sweden 0.84%
24 United Kingdom 0.80%
25 France 0.52%
Eurovision: Azerbaijan probes Russian 'nul points'
Farid Mammadov (R) was given maximum points by Russia
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Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev has ordered an inquiry into why his country gave Russia "nul points" at Saturday's Eurovision Song Contest.
Voters and the official Azerbaijan jury in fact gave strong backing to the Russian entry, according to officials.
Azerbaijan's state broadcaster suggested there may have been voting violations.
Russia gave the maximum 12 points to Azerbaijan's entry - a ballad by Farid Mammadov.
He came second behind winner Emmelie de Forest from Denmark.
Russia's Dina Garipova came fifth at the event in the Swedish city of Malmo.
Azerbaijan's ambassador to Russia, Polad Bulbuloglu, disclosed that President Aliyev had ordered an investigation and votes were being recounted.
He said that a large number of voters in Azerbaijan, submitting votes by text message, had supported the Russian Federation.
"According to this data, Russia should have received 10 points from Azerbaijan. An announcement will be made about this tonight on Azeri Public Television."
Camil Guliyev, head of the country's state broadcaster, said the failure to give Russia any points was of serious concern.
"We sincerely hope that this incident, possibly initiated by certain interest groups, will not cast a shadow over the brotherly relations of the Russian and Azerbaijani peoples," he said, without elaborating.
Azerbaijan, which hosted last year's contest, has traditionally tried to maintain good relations with Moscow though there have been tensions over energy in the past.
Farid Mammadov (R) was given maximum points by Russia
Continue reading the main story
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Denmark crowned Eurovision winners
Three jailed over Eurovision 'plot'
Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev has ordered an inquiry into why his country gave Russia "nul points" at Saturday's Eurovision Song Contest.
Voters and the official Azerbaijan jury in fact gave strong backing to the Russian entry, according to officials.
Azerbaijan's state broadcaster suggested there may have been voting violations.
Russia gave the maximum 12 points to Azerbaijan's entry - a ballad by Farid Mammadov.
He came second behind winner Emmelie de Forest from Denmark.
Russia's Dina Garipova came fifth at the event in the Swedish city of Malmo.
Azerbaijan's ambassador to Russia, Polad Bulbuloglu, disclosed that President Aliyev had ordered an investigation and votes were being recounted.
He said that a large number of voters in Azerbaijan, submitting votes by text message, had supported the Russian Federation.
"According to this data, Russia should have received 10 points from Azerbaijan. An announcement will be made about this tonight on Azeri Public Television."
Camil Guliyev, head of the country's state broadcaster, said the failure to give Russia any points was of serious concern.
"We sincerely hope that this incident, possibly initiated by certain interest groups, will not cast a shadow over the brotherly relations of the Russian and Azerbaijani peoples," he said, without elaborating.
Azerbaijan, which hosted last year's contest, has traditionally tried to maintain good relations with Moscow though there have been tensions over energy in the past.
At 1st look the thing that jumps out is that the Italian jury didn't rate the Netherlands.
It ended up with 1pt in the semi and bloody Spain must have beaten it by a long way in the final.
Italy didn't give The Netherlands anything and gave 2pts
It ended up with 1pt in the semi and bloody Spain must have beaten it by a long way in the final.
Italy didn't give The Netherlands anything and gave 2pts
The Italian jury clearly didn't rate Romania either. Top of the public vote, but ended up with 1pt 
A very odd story Hems.
Fook knows how the cheating Azeri's are still in the contest
Fook knows how the cheating Azeri's are still in the contest
They jailed people for voting for Armenia one year.
Just been reading up on that,plus reports of other discrepancies involving Azerbaijan.Makes our RTV shenanigans look quite mundane by comparison .
Plenty of stories in the past about how they've paid people in various countries to vote for them and now video evidence.
It's about time TPTB chucked them out
It's about time TPTB chucked them out
Read a post on one of the sites about how a Moldovan jury member was quoted as saying she didn't like the Romanian song,put gave it top marks anyway 
Going back the Italian vote. The jury clearly liked Norway
Norway from 12th in the public vote to 3rd in the combined score
I'll leave you to your analysis Fig....I've come to the conclusion the reason I done my gonads was because it was corrupt,rather than a lack of judgement from myself 
Meanwhile, in other news, Mark Simpkin (aka Mr.Tricia Penrose) has been sighted in Baku. Again.
me too Hems.I wonder if Anouk's unwillingness to suck up to the various Eurovision bigwigs cost her with the juries
Russia didn't get anything from Italy despite being 5th in their pv.
How the feck did Italy give 25% more to Ukraine than Moldova in the semi but the same in the final?
They came to their senses and realised it was cr@p
With my conspiracy hat on. A smaller total vote in the semi would be easier to fix
Thank feck we have non manipulative Cowell productions we can bet on with confidence as to their probity.
TBF the manipulation is all out in the open with Cowell. I don't think he'd ever try to fix phone votes
Denmark from 6th to top thanks to the Italian jury.
It will be interesting to see if the other juries show a similar pattern. Strong support for Denmark & Norway. Less than expected for The Netherlands..and not keen on Russia either
It will be interesting to see if the other juries show a similar pattern. Strong support for Denmark & Norway. Less than expected for The Netherlands..and not keen on Russia either
The Italian top 10 combined fwiw
1.Denmark
2.Malta
3.Noway
4.Greece
5.Lithuania
6.Ukraine
7.Moldova
8.Hungary
9.Spain
10.Romania
Public vote
1 Romania 23.20%
2 Moldova 13.79%
3 Ukraine 13.23%
4 Greece 11.94%
5 Russia 5.01%
6 Denmark 3.20%
7 Malta 3.07%
8 Hungary 2.93%
9 Azerbaijan 2.47%
10 Lithuania 2.27%
11 Georgia 1.95%
12 Norway 1.77%
13 The Netherlands 1.64%
14 Armenia 1.60%
15 Ireland 1.54%
16 Spain 1.51%
17 Belarus 1.46%
18 Germany 1.20%
19 Iceland 1.09%
20 Finland 1.04%
21 Belgium 0.98%
22 Estonia 0.95%
23 Sweden 0.84%
24 United Kingdom 0.80%
25 France 0.52%
1.Denmark
2.Malta
3.Noway
4.Greece
5.Lithuania
6.Ukraine
7.Moldova
8.Hungary
9.Spain
10.Romania
Public vote
1 Romania 23.20%
2 Moldova 13.79%
3 Ukraine 13.23%
4 Greece 11.94%
5 Russia 5.01%
6 Denmark 3.20%
7 Malta 3.07%
8 Hungary 2.93%
9 Azerbaijan 2.47%
10 Lithuania 2.27%
11 Georgia 1.95%
12 Norway 1.77%
13 The Netherlands 1.64%
14 Armenia 1.60%
15 Ireland 1.54%
16 Spain 1.51%
17 Belarus 1.46%
18 Germany 1.20%
19 Iceland 1.09%
20 Finland 1.04%
21 Belgium 0.98%
22 Estonia 0.95%
23 Sweden 0.84%
24 United Kingdom 0.80%
25 France 0.52%
Surprisingly large number of phone-vote scandals for Cowell in America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol_controversies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol_controversies
Not really any genuine scandals. Mostly just internet fans kicking up a fuss when their favourite is voted off.
Bl00dy juries - without them I'd have stormed in with my Romania bets. 
How can music professionals not rate someone with an astounding voice also?!
How can music professionals not rate someone with an astounding voice also?!
No smoking gun in CowelI`s hand, but I liked this one
In the top thirteen in season 8, the expected phone number for finalist Alexis Grace, IDOLS-13, was not owned by American Idol, but by a company called Intimate Encounters, who used it as a sex line.
In May 2009, following allegations in the media of an American Idol texting scandal dubbed "Textgate", one of American Idol's corporate sponsors AT&T, admitted providing free mobile phones and texting services for fans of Kris Allen at parties organized on the night of the program's final episode.[24] Company representatives also provided Allen's supporters with lessons in how to send "power texts" which send ten or more votes with the touch of a single button. Bobby Kierna, one of the 2,000 guests who attended just one of the events, told reporters that she had voted for Allen 10,840 times.[25] AT&T denied attempting to "fix" the contest and apologized, saying that employees had been "caught up in their enthusiasm" and promised that they will in future "celebrate the competition, not individual contestants".[
So, AI`s corporate sponsor arranges parties (plural) of 2,000 people, each voting up to 10,000 times, for the sponsors` preferred contestant. That`s potentially 20,000,000 votes. PER PARTY!!! This explains how the best contestant ever, Adam Lambert, didn`t win. But it`s all OK, as they said `sorry` after being caught.
In the top thirteen in season 8, the expected phone number for finalist Alexis Grace, IDOLS-13, was not owned by American Idol, but by a company called Intimate Encounters, who used it as a sex line.
In May 2009, following allegations in the media of an American Idol texting scandal dubbed "Textgate", one of American Idol's corporate sponsors AT&T, admitted providing free mobile phones and texting services for fans of Kris Allen at parties organized on the night of the program's final episode.[24] Company representatives also provided Allen's supporters with lessons in how to send "power texts" which send ten or more votes with the touch of a single button. Bobby Kierna, one of the 2,000 guests who attended just one of the events, told reporters that she had voted for Allen 10,840 times.[25] AT&T denied attempting to "fix" the contest and apologized, saying that employees had been "caught up in their enthusiasm" and promised that they will in future "celebrate the competition, not individual contestants".[
So, AI`s corporate sponsor arranges parties (plural) of 2,000 people, each voting up to 10,000 times, for the sponsors` preferred contestant. That`s potentially 20,000,000 votes. PER PARTY!!! This explains how the best contestant ever, Adam Lambert, didn`t win. But it`s all OK, as they said `sorry` after being caught.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/johnson/2013/05/eurovision-song-contest?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/eurovision
A look at language, geography and ethnicity in ESC voting patterns.
A look at language, geography and ethnicity in ESC voting patterns.
Swedish Jury results
SWEDEN JURY VOTING (FINAL)
12 points to Norway
10 points to The Netherlands
08 points to Moldova
07 points to Belgium
06 points to Italy
05 points to Denmark
04 points to Russia
03 points to United Kingdom
02 points to Estonia
01 point to France SWEDEN TELEVOTING (FINAL)
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SWEDEN JURY VOTING (SEMIFINAL 1)
12 points to Denmark
10 points to Russia
08 points to Moldova
07 points to Belgium
06 points to The Netherlands
05 points to Montenegro
04 points to Austria
03 points to Estonia
02 points to Ukraine
01 point to Ireland
SWEDEN JURY VOTING (FINAL)
12 points to Norway
10 points to The Netherlands
08 points to Moldova
07 points to Belgium
06 points to Italy
05 points to Denmark
04 points to Russia
03 points to United Kingdom
02 points to Estonia
01 point to France SWEDEN TELEVOTING (FINAL)
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SWEDEN JURY VOTING (SEMIFINAL 1)
12 points to Denmark
10 points to Russia
08 points to Moldova
07 points to Belgium
06 points to The Netherlands
05 points to Montenegro
04 points to Austria
03 points to Estonia
02 points to Ukraine
01 point to Ireland
With Romania receiving 4pts they must have done well in the televote again
So almost 1/4 (25%!) voted for Romania in Italy but they only got 1 point?!
I didnt rate Romania at all but it seems that people liked the dracula, like they liked Lordi some years ago, maybe it could go to win the whole thing?
That means also that Lordi had no chance if there was juries voting also.
Well done to the organisers and their new count-systems, it is now worse than ever before.
I didnt rate Romania at all but it seems that people liked the dracula, like they liked Lordi some years ago, maybe it could go to win the whole thing?
That means also that Lordi had no chance if there was juries voting also.
Well done to the organisers and their new count-systems, it is now worse than ever before.
How is it possible for Holland to be voted 5th in the semi by the Swedish jury, yet 2nd in the final 
So Belgium Moldova and Denmark overtaken by the same performance.
So Belgium Moldova and Denmark overtaken by the same performance.
Anyone got any more individual country stats? Very interesting reading the Italian stuff.
What sort of stats are you after honest?
Only Italy & Sweden have released any sort of voting stats this year.
For historical stats try http://www.kolumbus.fi/jarpen/ ...under the Analysis tab
Only Italy & Sweden have released any sort of voting stats this year.
For historical stats try http://www.kolumbus.fi/jarpen/ ...under the Analysis tab
..oh and Azerbaijan, where iirc Ukraine received over 50% of the vote in another country that has very few televotes
Eurovision Gets Over 3.5 Million Tweets Across Europe
Saturday’s Eurovision final saw over 900,000 people post 3,700,000 tweets related to the competition across Europe. Tweets peaked at 46,000 per minute just after 9.00pm during Romania’s entry, while the second largest peak came during Greece’s entry, which saw 39,400 tweets posted in a minute. There were 113,000 tweets mentioning the BBC broadcast, while 85,000 mentioned BBC Eurovision host Graham Norton. Due to the high volume of tweets being posted across Europe in a mix of languages we tracked Eurovision as an event rather than a UK specific broadcast, which meant it did not feature in our top ten leaderboard
Saturday’s Eurovision final saw over 900,000 people post 3,700,000 tweets related to the competition across Europe. Tweets peaked at 46,000 per minute just after 9.00pm during Romania’s entry, while the second largest peak came during Greece’s entry, which saw 39,400 tweets posted in a minute. There were 113,000 tweets mentioning the BBC broadcast, while 85,000 mentioned BBC Eurovision host Graham Norton. Due to the high volume of tweets being posted across Europe in a mix of languages we tracked Eurovision as an event rather than a UK specific broadcast, which meant it did not feature in our top ten leaderboard
IF you have an hour to spare
http://www.eurovisionista.com/articles/the-plot-thickens-more-vanishing-poin...
http://www.eurovisionista.com/articles/the-plot-thickens-more-vanishing-poin...
Norwegian Jury results
FINAL (JURY)
12 points to Sweden
10 points to Netherlands
08 points to Malta
07 points to France
06 points to Greece
05 points to Belgium
04 points to Moldova
03 points to Italy
02 points to Romania
01 point to Denmark
FINAL (JURY)
12 points to Sweden
10 points to Netherlands
08 points to Malta
07 points to France
06 points to Greece
05 points to Belgium
04 points to Moldova
03 points to Italy
02 points to Romania
01 point to Denmark
DENMARK: JURY VOTES REVEALED
Danish national broadcaster revealed the jury votes of the country for the first semifinal and the final. Below you can see how the Danish jury voted in the fist semifinal on May 14 and in the final on May 18. Kaya Brüel, Jimmy Colding, Jørgen de Mylius, Soluna Samay and Chief 1 (Lars Pedersen) formed the national jury for Denmark this year. DR commented the lack of any votes to Azerbaijan said that got none televoting from the public and 18th place by the jury!
FINAL (JURY)
12 points to Russia
10 points to Sweden
08 points to The Netherlands
07 points to Belgium
06 points to Moldova
05 points to Norway
04 points to Ukraine
03 points to France
02 points to Greece
01 point to United Kingdom
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12 points to Russia
10 points to Austria
08 points to Ukraine
07 points to Moldova
06 points to The Netherlands
05 points to Estonia
04 points to Belgium
03 points to Montenegro
02 points to Croatia
01 points to Lithuania
Danish national broadcaster revealed the jury votes of the country for the first semifinal and the final. Below you can see how the Danish jury voted in the fist semifinal on May 14 and in the final on May 18. Kaya Brüel, Jimmy Colding, Jørgen de Mylius, Soluna Samay and Chief 1 (Lars Pedersen) formed the national jury for Denmark this year. DR commented the lack of any votes to Azerbaijan said that got none televoting from the public and 18th place by the jury!
FINAL (JURY)
12 points to Russia
10 points to Sweden
08 points to The Netherlands
07 points to Belgium
06 points to Moldova
05 points to Norway
04 points to Ukraine
03 points to France
02 points to Greece
01 point to United Kingdom
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. SEMI 1 (JURY)
12 points to Russia
10 points to Austria
08 points to Ukraine
07 points to Moldova
06 points to The Netherlands
05 points to Estonia
04 points to Belgium
03 points to Montenegro
02 points to Croatia
01 points to Lithuania
No jury votes but they must have won every PV...ring ring
..and any other small country with low voting numbers, I suspect
No points from any Scandi country where they take Eurovision seriously and I assume vote in large numbers
Denmark won the jury vote & public vote. I think. They've done average position for some reason, so not certain
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=split_results_of_eurovision_2013_revealed&source=twitter&medium=social&campaign=Twitter
Netherlands ranked 7th with the juries behind fooking Sweden
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=split_results_of_eurovision_2013_revealed&source=twitter&medium=social&campaign=Twitter
Netherlands ranked 7th with the juries behind fooking Sweden
annoyed my Spain for last back didn't come in, strange way to present the split voting when it only has a loose connection to the actual results..
also surprised Bonnie did better with the juries rather than the pv
also surprised Bonnie did better with the juries rather than the pv
I think a few of us are peed off with our Spain to be last bets
DENMARK WON JURY & TELEVOTING
Posted by Alenka Alexandrovic reporting from Switzerland on May 28, 2013 in EBU, EUROVISION | 1 Comment
The European Broadcasting Union announced the split results of the jury voting and public choices. We have some interesting things coming ouf of this announcement.
Denmark won the combined voting of the Eurovision Song Contest 2013 but also the jury voting and the televoting in the final. Denmark also won the combined and split (jury and public voting) in the first semifinal.
First Semifinal Combined Top 10
Denmark, Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Belgium, The Netherlands, Belarus, Ireland, Lithuania, Estonia
First Semifinal Jury Top 10
Denmark, Russia, Moldova, Ukraine, AUSTRIA, The Netherlands, Belgium, Estonia, Belarus, Ireland
First Semifinal Televoting Top 10
Denmark, Russia, Ukraine, MONTENEGRO, Lithuania, Ireland, Belgium, The Netherlands, CROATIA, Moldova
Second Semifinal Combined Top 10
Azerbaijan, Greece, Norway, Malta, Romania, Iceland, Armenia, Hungary, Finland, Georgia
Second Semifinal Jury Top 10
Malta, Azerbaijan, Greece, Norway, Georgia, Finland, Armenia, Iceland, ISRAEL, SAN MARINO
Second Semifinal Televoting Top 10
Romania, Greece, Azerbaijan, Norway, SWITZERLAND, Malta, BULGARIA, Iceland, Hungary, Finland.
Final Top 10 Combined
Denmark, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, Norway, Russia, Greece, Italy, Malta, The Netherlands, Hungary
Final Top 10 Jury
Denmark, Azerbaijan, SWEDEN, Norway, MOLDOVA, Ukraine, The Netherlands, Malta, FRANCE, GEORGIA.
Final Top 10 Televoting
Denmark, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Greece, Russia, Norway, ROMANIA, Hungary, Malta, The Netherlands
To protect the fairness of the voting, the EBU does not release the split ranking of televoting and jury per country. Publishing these numbers would explicitly highlight if countries don’t meet the televoting threshold – the minimum number of televotes needed to become a statistically valid result – is and where thus only the jury voting was regarded valid. Explicitly highlighting these countries could lead to unwanted disproportionate influence on the televoting in these countries in future years to come.
Posted by Alenka Alexandrovic reporting from Switzerland on May 28, 2013 in EBU, EUROVISION | 1 Comment
The European Broadcasting Union announced the split results of the jury voting and public choices. We have some interesting things coming ouf of this announcement.
Denmark won the combined voting of the Eurovision Song Contest 2013 but also the jury voting and the televoting in the final. Denmark also won the combined and split (jury and public voting) in the first semifinal.
First Semifinal Combined Top 10
Denmark, Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Belgium, The Netherlands, Belarus, Ireland, Lithuania, Estonia
First Semifinal Jury Top 10
Denmark, Russia, Moldova, Ukraine, AUSTRIA, The Netherlands, Belgium, Estonia, Belarus, Ireland
First Semifinal Televoting Top 10
Denmark, Russia, Ukraine, MONTENEGRO, Lithuania, Ireland, Belgium, The Netherlands, CROATIA, Moldova
Second Semifinal Combined Top 10
Azerbaijan, Greece, Norway, Malta, Romania, Iceland, Armenia, Hungary, Finland, Georgia
Second Semifinal Jury Top 10
Malta, Azerbaijan, Greece, Norway, Georgia, Finland, Armenia, Iceland, ISRAEL, SAN MARINO
Second Semifinal Televoting Top 10
Romania, Greece, Azerbaijan, Norway, SWITZERLAND, Malta, BULGARIA, Iceland, Hungary, Finland.
Final Top 10 Combined
Denmark, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, Norway, Russia, Greece, Italy, Malta, The Netherlands, Hungary
Final Top 10 Jury
Denmark, Azerbaijan, SWEDEN, Norway, MOLDOVA, Ukraine, The Netherlands, Malta, FRANCE, GEORGIA.
Final Top 10 Televoting
Denmark, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Greece, Russia, Norway, ROMANIA, Hungary, Malta, The Netherlands
To protect the fairness of the voting, the EBU does not release the split ranking of televoting and jury per country. Publishing these numbers would explicitly highlight if countries don’t meet the televoting threshold – the minimum number of televotes needed to become a statistically valid result – is and where thus only the jury voting was regarded valid. Explicitly highlighting these countries could lead to unwanted disproportionate influence on the televoting in these countries in future years to come.
Average position is fairly meaningless...
1st, 1st, 25th = average 9th despite getting plenty of points overall
Ireland clearly consistently mid-table but not high enough for points
But yes horrible numbers to produce, outliers will totally skew the data
1st, 1st, 25th = average 9th despite getting plenty of points overall
Ireland clearly consistently mid-table but not high enough for points
But yes horrible numbers to produce, outliers will totally skew the data
Or to put it another way, 1st, 1st, 25th scores as many points as 3rd, 3rd, 3rd - except the average for the former is 9th and average for latter is 3rd - stupid numbers
indeed jack - I hate this new system and hope they change things for next year.
Just caught up on this - Spain finished average much lower on BOTH jury and televote than Ireland, but they still beat them?
About 14th on the televote too - but they still get last place!
That is
(disclosure: pocket talking completely)
About 14th on the televote too - but they still get last place!
That is
(disclosure: pocket talking completely
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NETHERLANDS: JURY VOTES UNVEILED
Posted by Alenka Alexandrovic reporting from Switzerland on May 31, 2013 in EUROVISION, NETHERLANDS | Leave a comment
TROS published today the jury votes for the first semifinal and the final. In the first semifinal Cornald Maas, Eric van Tijn, Nance, Carlo Boszhard, Kim-Lian van der Meij formed the jury while after the leak of the two jury names of Cornald Maas and Eric van Tijn the final jury was made of Jeroen Nieuwenhuize, André de Raaff, Nance, Carlo Boszhard, Kim-Lian van der Meij.
FINAL (JURY)
12 points to Norway
10 points to Sweden
08 points to Denmark
07 points to Ukraine
06 points to belgium
05 points to Moldova
04 points to Malta
03 points to Hungary
02 points to Estonia
01 point to Russia FINAL (PUBLIC)
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. SEMI 1 (JURY)
12 points to Denmark
10 points to Ukraine
08 points to Moldova
07 points to Estonia
06 points to Russia
05 points to Belgium
04 points to Ireland
03 points to Belarus
02 points to Austria
01 point to Cyprus
Posted by Alenka Alexandrovic reporting from Switzerland on May 31, 2013 in EUROVISION, NETHERLANDS | Leave a comment
TROS published today the jury votes for the first semifinal and the final. In the first semifinal Cornald Maas, Eric van Tijn, Nance, Carlo Boszhard, Kim-Lian van der Meij formed the jury while after the leak of the two jury names of Cornald Maas and Eric van Tijn the final jury was made of Jeroen Nieuwenhuize, André de Raaff, Nance, Carlo Boszhard, Kim-Lian van der Meij.
FINAL (JURY)
12 points to Norway
10 points to Sweden
08 points to Denmark
07 points to Ukraine
06 points to belgium
05 points to Moldova
04 points to Malta
03 points to Hungary
02 points to Estonia
01 point to Russia FINAL (PUBLIC)
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. SEMI 1 (JURY)
12 points to Denmark
10 points to Ukraine
08 points to Moldova
07 points to Estonia
06 points to Russia
05 points to Belgium
04 points to Ireland
03 points to Belarus
02 points to Austria
01 point to Cyprus
How did Ukraine rate so highly with the juries?
I wasn't keen on Moldova but at least it was a well constructed song
I wasn't keen on Moldova but at least it was a well constructed song
I thought other way - wondered how she (Ukraine) did so well in the televote. Could imagine a few juries going for the arty-ness, but thought the televote might dump it.
I think they did well in the televote for the same reasons as Azerbaijan
..and I'm not sure it was arty. Just a Lion King type vibe but no real structure to the song after the 1st minute
FINAL (JURY)
12 points Russia
10 points Sweden
08 points Denmark
07 points The Netherlands
06 points Azerbaijan
05 points Moldova
04 points United Kingdom
03 points Ukraine
02 points Italy
01 point Belgium FINAL (PUBLIC)
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12 points Russia
10 points Moldova
08 points The Netherlands
07 points Ukraine
06 points Denmark
05 points Austria
04 points Belgium
03 points Belarus
02 points Estonia
01 point Lithuania
12 points Russia
10 points Sweden
08 points Denmark
07 points The Netherlands
06 points Azerbaijan
05 points Moldova
04 points United Kingdom
03 points Ukraine
02 points Italy
01 point Belgium FINAL (PUBLIC)
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12 points Russia
10 points Moldova
08 points The Netherlands
07 points Ukraine
06 points Denmark
05 points Austria
04 points Belgium
03 points Belarus
02 points Estonia
01 point Lithuania
German national broadcaster is the next one presenting the jury results for the final and the second semifinal in which Germany was eligible to vote. The national jury of Germany was made of Lena, Tim Bendzko, Carolin Niemczyk, Florian Silbereisen and Alina Süggeler. Georgia and Norway missed out in the second semifinal Greece and Romania missed the final voting.
FINAL (JURY)
12 points Sweden
10 points Hungary
08 points Norway
07 points Iceland
06 points Denmark
05 points Finland
04 points Belgium
03 points Azerbaijan
02 points Armenia
01 point Malta FINAL (PUBLIC)
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12 points Israel
10 points Hungary
08 points Iceland
07 points Armenia
06 points Greece
05 points Finland
04 points Azerbaijan
03 points Romania
02 points Malta
01 point Latvia SEMI 2 (PUBLIC)
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FINAL (JURY)
12 points Sweden
10 points Hungary
08 points Norway
07 points Iceland
06 points Denmark
05 points Finland
04 points Belgium
03 points Azerbaijan
02 points Armenia
01 point Malta FINAL (PUBLIC)
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12 points Israel
10 points Hungary
08 points Iceland
07 points Armenia
06 points Greece
05 points Finland
04 points Azerbaijan
03 points Romania
02 points Malta
01 point Latvia SEMI 2 (PUBLIC)
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Looking at those German jury results it confirms Lena is as mad as a box of frogs.
Sweden totally amazes me. A very average song of it's type.
Starting to wonder if, as I pondered during my 2 weeks in Malmo, whether they haven't completely misread these new rankings in some countries - so the last place ranking on some lists has been awarded 1st, and vice-versa. Absolutely baffling results this year.
ROMANIA: JURY VOTES REVEALED
Posted by Alenka Alexandrovic reporting from Switzerland on June 9, 2013 in EUROVISION, ROMANIA | Leave a comment
The Romanian press claim to have the results of the national jury for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013 (second semifinal and the grand final). The information we receive from the voting is that Azerbaijan is treated weirdly between the second semifinal and the final. In the second semifinal Azerbaijan gets 1st rank by the jury and fourth in the final. Greece is also treade weirdly as it gets 2nd rank in the second semifinal and 10th rank in the final! Israel missed the top ten in the second semifinal and (surprise) Denmark missed the top ten ranking in the final!
FINAL (JURY)
12 points Moldova
10 points Netherlands
08 points Malta
07 points Azerbaijan
06 points United Kingdom
05 points Norway
04 points Belgium
03 points Italy
02 points Sweden
01 point Greece
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. SEMI 2 (JURY)
12 points Azerbaijan
10 points Greece
08 points Norway
07 points Malta
06 points Albania
05 points Finland
04 points Georgia
03 points San Marino
02 points Iceland
01 point Armenia
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Posted by Alenka Alexandrovic reporting from Switzerland on June 9, 2013 in EUROVISION, ROMANIA | Leave a comment
The Romanian press claim to have the results of the national jury for the Eurovision Song Contest 2013 (second semifinal and the grand final). The information we receive from the voting is that Azerbaijan is treated weirdly between the second semifinal and the final. In the second semifinal Azerbaijan gets 1st rank by the jury and fourth in the final. Greece is also treade weirdly as it gets 2nd rank in the second semifinal and 10th rank in the final! Israel missed the top ten in the second semifinal and (surprise) Denmark missed the top ten ranking in the final!
FINAL (JURY)
12 points Moldova
10 points Netherlands
08 points Malta
07 points Azerbaijan
06 points United Kingdom
05 points Norway
04 points Belgium
03 points Italy
02 points Sweden
01 point Greece
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. SEMI 2 (JURY)
12 points Azerbaijan
10 points Greece
08 points Norway
07 points Malta
06 points Albania
05 points Finland
04 points Georgia
03 points San Marino
02 points Iceland
01 point Armenia
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I'm not sure Andrius had much of a budget for the official video of Something 
I think he filmed it on his iphone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xAI_HfUqikw
Still a very decent song and there's something very likeable about him
I think he filmed it on his iphone.https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xAI_HfUqikw
Still a very decent song and there's something very likeable about him
UK jury officially incompetent - Norway ranked 21st!!! Not surprising when you have dinosaurs like Tony Blackburn and Tony Hatch voicing an opinion:
1. Russia
2. Belgium
3. Denmark
4. Estonia
5. Ukraine
6. Netherlands
7. Georgia
8. Belarus
9. Azerbaijan
10. Iceland
11. Moldova
12. Malta
13. Greece
14. France
15. Armenia
16. Romania
17. Italy
18. Germany
19. Sweden
20. Hungary
21. Norway
22. Ireland
23. Finland
24. Lithuania
25. Spain
1. Russia
2. Belgium
3. Denmark
4. Estonia
5. Ukraine
6. Netherlands
7. Georgia
8. Belarus
9. Azerbaijan
10. Iceland
11. Moldova
12. Malta
13. Greece
14. France
15. Armenia
16. Romania
17. Italy
18. Germany
19. Sweden
20. Hungary
21. Norway
22. Ireland
23. Finland
24. Lithuania
25. Spain
If that's what you meant Stu?
UK: BBC UNVEILS JURY RESULTS
Posted by Fotis Konstantopoulos reporting from Greece on June 19, 2013 in EUROVISION, UNITED KINGDOM | Leave a comment
The jury votes from the United Kingdom with lots of interesting things. We notice that the jury gave points to Belarus and Azerbaijan but the publi vote didn’t award them anything as we show in the combined result both in the first semifinal and the final. In the first semifinal Lithuania missed the top ten and the same happened with Lithuania in the final. We remind you that televoting results are not available / country this year to any of the national broadcasters.
SEMIFINAL 1 JURY
12 points Russia
10 points Austria
08 points Denmark
07 points Estonia
06 points Belgium
05 points Netherlands
04 points Moldova
03 points Belarus
02 points Ukraine
01 point Ireland
FINAL JURY
12 points Russia
10 points Belgium
08 points Denmark
07 points Estonia
06 points Ukraine
05 points Netherlands
04 points Georgia
03 points Belarus
02 points Azerbaijan
01 point Iceland
UK: BBC UNVEILS JURY RESULTS
Posted by Fotis Konstantopoulos reporting from Greece on June 19, 2013 in EUROVISION, UNITED KINGDOM | Leave a comment
The jury votes from the United Kingdom with lots of interesting things. We notice that the jury gave points to Belarus and Azerbaijan but the publi vote didn’t award them anything as we show in the combined result both in the first semifinal and the final. In the first semifinal Lithuania missed the top ten and the same happened with Lithuania in the final. We remind you that televoting results are not available / country this year to any of the national broadcasters.
SEMIFINAL 1 JURY
12 points Russia
10 points Austria
08 points Denmark
07 points Estonia
06 points Belgium
05 points Netherlands
04 points Moldova
03 points Belarus
02 points Ukraine
01 point Ireland
FINAL JURY
12 points Russia
10 points Belgium
08 points Denmark
07 points Estonia
06 points Ukraine
05 points Netherlands
04 points Georgia
03 points Belarus
02 points Azerbaijan
01 point Iceland
This year's UK jurors, stu?
Rita Campbell - singer
http://www.ritacampbell.co.uk/
Natalie Green - singer who's worked for Andrew Lloyd-Webber's company (I think... though i may have got the wrong Natalie Green here)
http://www.singerspro.com/uk/view.php?uid=227711
Melissa James - singer songwriter
http://melissa-james.com/
Tony Hatch - composer...wrote UK eurovision entry in 1964
http://www.tonyhatch.com/
Tony Blackburn - Radio 2 DJ
https://twitter.com/tonyblackburn
Rita Campbell - singer
http://www.ritacampbell.co.uk/
Natalie Green - singer who's worked for Andrew Lloyd-Webber's company (I think... though i may have got the wrong Natalie Green here)
http://www.singerspro.com/uk/view.php?uid=227711
Melissa James - singer songwriter
http://melissa-james.com/
Tony Hatch - composer...wrote UK eurovision entry in 1964
http://www.tonyhatch.com/
Tony Blackburn - Radio 2 DJ
https://twitter.com/tonyblackburn
thanks guys - interesting.
Like you say JR - Blackburn and Hatch, obviously thought it was still 1965.
Not so sure about the others, but that Norway result is a travesty.
Like you say JR - Blackburn and Hatch, obviously thought it was still 1965.
Not so sure about the others, but that Norway result is a travesty.
Actually figure out the equation for the Norway result
2 dinasaurs + 3 green-eyed cows!
2 dinasaurs + 3 green-eyed cows!
Valentina to represent San Marino again
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http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=88983&_t=valentina_monetta_to_represent_san_marino_in_2014
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http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=88983&_t=valentina_monetta_to_represent_san_marino_in_2014
Tim B @Reality_Tim 3h
Ruth Lorenzo was asked by the BBC to do #eurovision. I really hope she does it! #bbbots #bbuk
I'd have to stop laying the UK.
Ruth Lorenzo was asked by the BBC to do #eurovision. I really hope she does it! #bbbots #bbuk
I'd have to stop laying the UK.
The BBC don't have the power to decide the Spanish entry.
I suspect she could represent the UK. Katrina and her waves were American. I'm not sure what the rules are.
I know she couldn't sing Purple Rain, so I wouldn't be backing
I know she couldn't sing Purple Rain, so I wouldn't be backing
There are zilch rules about where you actually are from - loads of countries been represented by singers of different nationalities. And some won, as five points out, one for us.
Bit silly though really, if it's the countries in it, prob should be singers from those countries!
Did Katrina have a British passport? I'm not sure.
..... Katrina has lived in the UK since 1976, moving to London in 1998 where she currently lives.
So I assume there must be some kind of residency rule at least
She was round the corner from us at the time of the ESC win, think she said she hated it over here tho.
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