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By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 13 Dec 13 20:17

Dec 13, 2013 -- 9:51AM, ShirleyKnot wrote:


The reinvestment of winnings theory, I like it. Short price Murray backers should be very worried.


Surprised

By:
carpet1
When: 14 Dec 13 07:40
12 on this am stan
By:
nigelpm1
When: 14 Dec 13 10:59
I hope you guys are hammering SJ at 1.08 - my account lasted less than a week
By:
ahorsewithnoname
When: 14 Dec 13 11:20
Mo's come in a bit, was over 100 yesterday. Anyway, for the record, day before the show:

Winner
Andy Murray         1.05 / 1.06  (lowest 1.02, highest 5.3, ignoring small amounts at extremes)
AP McCoy            28 / 38  (19.5, 230)
Mo Farah            46 / 65   (18.5, 840)
Chris Froome        270 / 350  (4.6, 500)
Sir Ben Ainslie     360 / 800   (160, 1000)
Leigh Halfpenny     800 / 900    (75, 1000)
Justin Rose         1000      (lowest 5)
Ian Bell            1000      (lowest 200)
Christine Ohuruogu  1000
Hannah Cockroft     1000


Significant lows of others:

Alastair Cook   7.4
Rory McIlroy    9.2 (6 at 7.4)
Jess Ennis    11 (£4 at 6.8)
Carl Froch     12
Ronnie O'Sullivan    12
David Beckham    15
Phil Taylor     16 (£3 at 4.2)
Jenson Button   16.5
James Anderson    23
Gareth Bale    28 (£4 at 18, £4 at 27)
Joe Root    30
Laura Robson   30
Lewis Hamilton   30
Lee Westwood   32
By:
ahorsewithnoname
When: 14 Dec 13 11:24
W/O Murray
Mo Farah            2.44 / 2.5
AP McCoy            2.88 / 3.2
Chris Froome        6 / 6.4
Leigh Halfpenny     16.5 / 19
Sir Ben Ainslie     27 / 95
Justin Rose         55 / 990
Ian Bell            270 / 440
Christine Ohuruogu  350 / 1000
Hannah Cockroft     300 / 350
By:
ahorsewithnoname
When: 14 Dec 13 11:27
Top 3
Andy Murray   1.01 to lay
Mo Farah            1.44 / 1.48
AP McCoy            1.55 / 1.67
Chris Froome        3.9 / 4.1
Leigh Halfpenny     4.5 / 5.1
Sir Ben Ainslie       7.6 / 9.8
Justin Rose           12 / 15.5
Hannah Cockroft     26 / 95
Ian Bell              130 / 160
Christine Ohuruogu  44 / 990
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 14 Dec 13 11:39
Joe Root 30s!!!
By:
nigelpm1
When: 14 Dec 13 11:42
Phil Taylor the mental one for me - no BBC audience = no chance
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 14 Dec 13 11:43
Here's a relevant stat for potential future years - cricketers have only ever won the award in the year of a home Ashes series.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 14 Dec 13 11:46
back to 1.05/1.06 - come on chaps we need some more ramping
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 14 Dec 13 11:52
When did the 1-2 Forecast, Tricast, 2nd and 3rd place markets get added?
By:
ahorsewithnoname
When: 14 Dec 13 11:59
3 or 4 days ago
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 14 Dec 13 12:11
Not a penny matched on two of those markets and only £86 in total across all four.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 14 Dec 13 13:39
laddies still 1.07
By:
Jim Duncan
When: 14 Dec 13 15:42
make that a double for AP today
By:
judorick
When: 14 Dec 13 15:46
I backed them both!
By:
nigelpm1
When: 14 Dec 13 18:11
Just over 24 hours to go.  Come on boys - let's get that 1.1
By:
nigelpm1
When: 14 Dec 13 18:11
To add I reserve the right to brag a 1.1 shot.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 14 Dec 13 18:17
but only because it would equate to a 10% return over a few days
By:
Jim Duncan
When: 15 Dec 13 08:26
I still think Murray is too short and that there could yet be a runner to challnged him
By:
nigelpm1
When: 15 Dec 13 08:47

Dec 15, 2013 -- 2:26AM, Jim Duncan wrote:


I still think Murray is too short and that there could yet be a runner to challnged him


Best of luck with that

By:
Jim Duncan
When: 15 Dec 13 09:33
Jim Duncan • December 15, 2013 8:26 AM GMT
""I still think Murray is too short and that there could yet be a 'runner or rider' to challenge him"

...In 2012 not only did Murray win Olympic Singles Gold by beating Federer in 3 straight sets on Centre Court at Wimbledon, but six weeks before he was the first British Male to make the Wimbledon Final since Henry Wilfred "Bunny" Austin 74 years prior in 1938. Murray was 'robbed' of Wimbledon victory, as when a set up the match was halted and the roof closed changing the match favourably towards the more attacking Federer. The after match tears during the interview with Sue Barker saw his SPOTY price tumble by half. Six weeks later Murray reversed that Wimbledon loss by beating Federer in straight sets on the same Wimbledon Centre Court and almost made it a Double Gold by narrowly losing 8-10 in a 'champions' match tie-break shoot-out (played when at a set all ~ first to 10 points, 2 points clear minimum) in the Mixed Doubles Final with lovely Miss Laura Robson thus adding a Silver Medal to his haul. After the Olympics he went back to Dunblane and paraded around town all day letting every youngster in the country feel, touch, wear and be photographed with Murray and/or his Olympic medals around his golden post box. After all this he then went on to win the US Open in September and in so doing became the first British Male Grand Slam tournament winner since Fred Perry won Wimbledon and the US Open 76 years previous in 1936 and Murray ended the year ranked ATP No.3 (this year his year end ranking is ATP No.4). Yet after his best on court year in 2012, Murray still only secured 14.17% of the SPOTY public vote which was his best ever! In all 6 of his other shortlist visits, (naturally not in person of course as he 'doesn't' attend), 2011 was his 2nd best return of the overall percentage of the public vote netting just 5.48% and apart from last years one-off he has always secured less than 20,000 votes. In comparison with Super-Smashing-Great Sprint 'King' Cav's 49.47% (169,152) of the 2011 SPOTY vote or with AP's 41.98% (293,152) of the 2010 vote, Scotland barely lifted a finger!
By:
hemsby
When: 15 Dec 13 09:52
No real call to arms for AP in today's Racing Post.

1/3 page article on page 3 in which he says "if I get  a mention it will be nice".
Thinks Murray is a worthy fav and will probably win.Will be attending on his own,as his son isn't well,has also advised JP not to bother turning up.

Full page in the sports section,with a little piece about all 10.They tip Froome for a Top 3 finish.
By:
Jim Duncan
When: 15 Dec 13 09:52
...will Mo Farah be the 'runner' to make a final lap sprint to the line?
By:
nigelpm1
When: 15 Dec 13 10:02
layers lining up - come on boys you can do it - one last time, you managed 1.08 last time
By:
ashleigh
When: 15 Dec 13 10:14
can someone please explain the prices on the without murray market, i am keen on ap mccoy to be runner up to murray and cant understand how in the outright market ap is ahead of mo farah yet its the other way round in the without market.   
mo farah had a fantastic year in 2012 yet did not make the last 3,so with a quiet 2013 will be taking him on in the places with ap mccoy and c froome.   
anyone agree?
By:
nigelpm1
When: 15 Dec 13 10:27

Dec 15, 2013 -- 4:14AM, ashleigh wrote:


can someone please explain the prices on the without murray market, i am keen on ap mccoy to be runner up to murray and cant understand how in the outright market ap is ahead of mo farah yet its the other way round in the without market.   mo farah had a fantastic year in 2012 yet did not make the last 3,so with a quiet 2013 will be taking him on in the places with ap mccoy and c froome.    anyone agree?


This poll was interesting for sure:

http://news.opinium.co.uk/survey-results/two-horse-race-sports-personality

By:
nigelpm1
When: 15 Dec 13 10:44
The irony being that the Murray layers were focusing their attention on the wrong alternative ;-)
By:
cnman
When: 15 Dec 13 11:52
The British public are racist, hence Mo only came 4th last year when his achievements were best or 2nd best.
I'd be very surprised if he comes 2nd this year
By:
donny osmond
When: 15 Dec 13 12:23
if ap has a campaign he beats farrah and gets close(ish) to murray

no campaign and he probably misses second,


i see no campaign
By:
Jim Duncan
When: 15 Dec 13 12:26
...having won SPOTY in 2010 with 293k votes just 3 years ago, does AP really need a campaign as his supporters already know who he is and what he stands for.
By:
ahorsewithnoname
When: 15 Dec 13 12:38
There will also be an opportunity for AP to win again in a few years, when he retires or if he reaches 5000 winners.
By:
ekbalko
When: 15 Dec 13 12:43
With all the cycling votes the last few years Froome looks good for top 3 tonight.
By:
donny osmond
When: 15 Dec 13 12:55
the cycling fans who voted for cav and wiggo dont seem to like froome......

when a p won spoty , facebook was ablaze with campaigns, and carried on throughout the day until
vote was closed.

2 nd place should be a good betting heat , as should top 3
By:
cnman
When: 15 Dec 13 13:17
It's pretty much accepted among any cycling fans who aren't complete morons that Froome is a doper. He's also not in many people's eyes actually British.

Many drawbacks to all of the rest of the 10, 2nd and 3rd could be anyone apart from Bell, Cockroft, Ohudrugscheatuogo (and Murray obvs)
By:
nigelpm1
When: 15 Dec 13 15:08

Dec 15, 2013 -- 7:17AM, cnman wrote:


It's pretty much accepted among any cycling fans who aren't complete morons that Froome is a doper. He's also not in many people's eyes actually British. Many drawbacks to all of the rest of the 10, 2nd and 3rd could be anyone apart from Bell, Cockroft, Ohudrugscheatuogo (and Murray obvs)


I think the jury is still out on this.  Certainly, I wouldn't bet my life on Froome being clean but it's probably far more likely he's clean than not and I wouldn't call myself a mug.

Would be interested in your evidence of this Ravi?

By:
cnman
When: 15 Dec 13 16:58
Basically to do with how much ridiculously better than the rest he is all of a sudden Nige after mystery illness and also setting times that have never been done before (or only done by dopers)
By:
Jim Duncan
When: 15 Dec 13 17:14
I can see Leigh Halfpenny and/or Mo Farah getting many more votes than people might expect tonight.

No matter who you would like to win and whatever your position, good luck to one and all tonight.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 15 Dec 13 17:44
Neck on line :  Percentage guesses : Murray - 57%, Farah - 9%, AP - 8%, Rest - 26%, anyone else wanna play. I'll donate a fiver to the winner's choice.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 15 Dec 13 17:44
of charity that should add.
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