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Bismarck
21 May 12 13:48
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I love the Swedsih song and it's a great CD track but the presentation is ill conceived and will not attract voters who hear it for the first time. Can't possibly win.

Do not under estimate the jury vote. It's crucial. You need a well crafted song and a great performance. It's Italy that should be 7/4 favourites and Iceland is a major player Win and Place although the 25/1 may have gone.

Iceland have one of the most tuned in delegations. They have a wow factor key change in their presentation and this clip will be used for the short reminder section
when giving the voting details. Again...another important factor.

Good Luck
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Report five leaves left May 21, 2012 1:53 PM BST
I love the Swedsih song and it's a great CD track but the presentation is ill conceived and will not attract voters

My thinking is the polar opposite.
I wouldn't listen to it on cd, but as a live performance it's incredibly impressive.
Report popking May 21, 2012 2:05 PM BST
I must be totally out of sync with reality then as Iceland is an over-produced, indulgent, worthy dirge with no strong hooks in my opinion.  I very much doubt many televoters will remember it well enough to vote for it, and even with a top 10 jury vote in the bag (not a certainty either for me) it will not get anywhere near winning.

As for Italy, I would not be surprised to see it nearer the bottom of the table than the top.

I'll be laying both for top 10 I reckon. (Already laying 1)
Report Steamship May 21, 2012 5:00 PM BST
Just listened to the top 5 in the betting and on1y 1 is still in my head Euphoria.
Report squares May 21, 2012 5:21 PM BST
you have my sympathy
Report MilanBarosh May 21, 2012 5:57 PM BST
"I must be totally out of sync with reality then as Iceland is an over-produced, indulgent, worthy dirge with no strong hooks in my opinion.  I very much doubt many televoters will remember it well enough to vote for it, and even with a top 10 jury vote in the bag (not a certainty either for me) it will not get anywhere near winning."

i could have written that my self.
Report bexley May 21, 2012 6:10 PM BST

May 21, 2012 -- 5:57PM, MilanBarosh wrote:


"I must be totally out of sync with reality then as Iceland is an over-produced, indulgent, worthy dirge with no strong hooks in my opinion.  I very much doubt many televoters will remember it well enough to vote for it, and even with a top 10 jury vote in the bag (not a certainty either for me) it will not get anywhere near winning."i could have written that my self.


No you couldn't. Not a single 'phuck' there anywhere Laugh

Report Steamship May 21, 2012 7:23 PM BST
squares, the money I made on Running Scared last year means I will forever study Eurovision
Report MilanBarosh May 21, 2012 7:28 PM BST
"No you couldn't. Not a single 'phuck' there anywhere" Laugh

PHUCK YOU BEX Devil
Report bexley May 21, 2012 7:29 PM BST

May 21, 2012 -- 5:00PM, Steamship wrote:


Just listened to the top 5 in the betting and on1y 1 is still in my head Euphoria.


If thats Sweden, Russia Italy Serbia and UK no wonder Cool

I hope you are looking outside of those at least for some consideration - I think the potential winners are mostly in the 20's - 40's price on Betfair (or were until Romania went sub 20 today)

Report Steamship May 21, 2012 7:30 PM BST
Yes bexley I will just started looking today and Iceland were the 5th not UK
Report bexley May 21, 2012 7:31 PM BST
Cool just wondered. Interested in another view to add to the mix - I think the betting market is a bit clueless this year with its odds
Report squares May 21, 2012 7:37 PM BST
No i meant you have my sympathy for having that ghastly woman wildly shrieking "euphoria" stuck in your head.  I think I'd need to go and hit my head against a wall and hope the hideous cacophany would go away.
Report five leaves left May 21, 2012 7:37 PM BST
So far I'm with Steamship
Report bexley May 21, 2012 7:39 PM BST
I'm with Squares Laugh
Report Steamship May 21, 2012 7:40 PM BST
I hope it gets better.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? May 22, 2012 1:44 AM BST
Oh, it could win, Sweden are usually near the top anyway, so it would need just some more votes and theyre in with a shout. I'm not sure the judges will consider it a winner though, and that is what could affect its chances. I am confident that the winner will be from outside the expected countries though. Mischief
Report MilanBarosh May 22, 2012 7:01 AM BST
"I am confident that the winner will be from outside the expected countries though."...that's good to hear from my perspective, i've not backed anything in the current top 10.Cool
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? May 22, 2012 3:52 PM BST
Try looking in the 100s. I think the winner is there.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? May 22, 2012 3:53 PM BST
either that or Germany.
Report ClayDavis May 22, 2012 3:54 PM BST
Sweden the Frankel Cool
Report Sigge May 23, 2012 8:38 AM BST
Good Lord, are we (Sweden) jollys to win this freak-show? I would not back us with money I found in the street.....
Report SUNSHINE HEAD May 23, 2012 9:06 AM BST
Slovenia is a very very big price Excited
Report stu May 23, 2012 9:38 AM BST
Oh, don't go and naff that one's chances up too SH I'm on it! CryMischief
Report stu May 23, 2012 9:39 AM BST
She'll start singing like Hump now! Laugh
Report MilanBarosh May 23, 2012 9:50 AM BST
"why Sweden won't win...and who will" ?

just "be my guest" and look at the avatar my friends Wink
Report Steamship May 26, 2012 11:13 PM BST
Wish I had gone with my original thoughts
Report Burton-Brewers May 26, 2012 11:47 PM BST
good analysis, pity the result spoilt it
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