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i've just joined the Ryan Giggs for BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2009 group on facebook :D
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There are over 500 Ryan Giggs groups on Facebook including 19 Ryan Giggs for Sports Personality of The Year 2009 groups - which one did you join Gresty?
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Ryan Giggs for BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2009
this one, i've copy & pasted the title |
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the phone vote is not new
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Personally I think it would be unfair if all his facebook fans voted more than once
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Sky News are promoting Ennis tomorrow. Doing a profile piece - on her "amazing year and about her incredible comeback". A 2 minute secttion on her alone by their Olympic staff which should be on most of the day apparently from 6am.
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It will be the sporting equivalent of Westlife winning the Smash Hits Poll Winners party Greatest group ever award. In the place of thousands of schoolgirls in that case, you'll have Manchester United supporters (including thousands of young schoolboys) those who have joined in the betting coup and Patrick Kielty texting in. Completely absurd of course but then are Westlife the greatest group ever?
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I asked Louis and he said yes
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Today I shall be mostly ramping Ryan Giggs. :)
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Here is an article from yesterday's Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1234299/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Ryan-Giggs-star-pass-test-genius.html Plus a couple of older articles for anyone who hasn't seen them. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/6408638/Jim-White-Ryan-Giggs-should-beat-Jenson-Button-to-BBC-Sports-Personality-of-the-Year.html http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/motorsport/2009/10/20/why-jenson-button-shouldn-t-win-bbc-sports-personality-of-the-year-115875-21759971/ |
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Current status of Facebook campaigns for said sportspeople to win SPOTY:
Giggs 2191 members Tweddle 246 members (+151 in a 2nd group) Haye 243 members Ennis 167 members Button 42 members So far have been unable to locate groups for the other main contenders, please add if you have. |
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This is the main Ennis group (about 800 members).
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=188030048173 |
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Giggs embodies Man U's glory years, its a chance for fans to acknowledge an amazing two decades not just for Giggs but also for them as supporters. Its not often you get the chance to effectively vote for your team. I expect Man U fans to be highly motivated voters.
What would it say about the Welsh if one of their greatest sportsmen of all time gets beaten to this award by one of the non descript names on this list. Surely a sense of national pride will ensure that the Welsh get behind their man. They will have been lifted by the victory of Joe Calzaghe 2 years ago, will realise that the English don't always get it their own way and feel empowered to make it happen again. I've spent a lot of time trawling polls and forums. On neutral football sites there is a good deal of scepticism about Giggs' nomination, but there is always the odd voice amongst the neutrals respecting his contribution to the game and his status as an outstanding role model. Football is our national game, it won't take many voters from this huge potential voting bloc to make a difference. With the XF clash it should only take 200,000 votes to win SPOTY this year. Given the three pools of voters that Giggs has to tap into I really can't see how he falls short of this total. |
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Thanks Charlie - I'm no Facebook expert, if I've missed any more please say.
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ok have found quite a few for Cavendish now, the biggest one of which is 2,060 members.
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curious-cat: Jenson Button drives for a Team as shown by his performances over the past 9 years of mediocrity. Ryan Giggs has played for a highly successful Team for 19 years making ample contributions each and every season otherwise he would have been given the boot along with Beckham, Van Nistelrooy and the like long since - Ferguson does not keep also-rans in the squad. He is the most decorated player in British football history AND a superb role model for all up and coming players = LEGEND!
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I'd have thought activity on the United fansites would be a lot more of an indicator of potential support for Giggs.
Bit late to get a campaign up and running as I see no sign of anything yet. |
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Its all over the home page of their official site Ernesto:
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={63600C0C-B276-4CB1-8FB1-3460BE926722} Nice video on there, including some focus on his charity work. |
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Bunnyman It's the fan sites though which actually organise campaigns like this. If the Man U sites put their weight behind it then he could be a shoo-in but I don't see any evidence of that.
I'm on the web 8 or 9 hours a day but very, very rarely go on my own teams website. I'm not sure how many Man U fans would either. The mian news is elsewhere these days. I hope you all make a killing on Giggs but with the competition of the X factor I can't see the football demographic turning out in large numbers tio vote for Giggs. |
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Agree with you Ernesto. People starting to get real with Giggs price. Last price traded 4.8.
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Don't forget the Welsh factor Ernesto.
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Wales is a small place
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Alex the old wrinkled retainer 05 Dec 10:19
This market is not about making a judgement on the achievements present or past. It is about making a judgement on how many people will pick up their phones and what number they will dial. GeorgeBrush 05 Dec 07:27 Probably won't bother CC. Looks a likely winner to me, particularly since I saw the Guardian poll. It all looks very tight there, but Giggs is the only one with an organised group of supporters ready to pile in on the night. Does facebook membership equate to picking up the phone on a Sunday night and voting for Giggs. Like the RATM no.1 campaign I suspect that facebook group membership and actual voting/buying will be very different. If you could have voted before Sunday night I'd say Giggs was a sound back but they don't open voting until 7pm in order to stop these very orchestrated campaigns. If you're on at 25/1 and above though it is a very different story although I'd be tempted to cash in now. GL anyway. |
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Button's largest group is actually 559.
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philip glass 11 Dec 12:28
Wales is a small place Population 3m. |
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The home game tomorrow evening is a handily timed reminder to vote...
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Cider 11 Dec 12:37
The home game tomorrow evening is a handily timed reminder to vote... Listen out for what the announcer says to the crowd. |
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Alex the Welsh vote was very different. They had a week to vote for him not 2 hours.
1 for BECKY BREWERTON - WHO? 2 for NATHAN CLEVERLY- WHO? 3 for RYAN GIGGS 4 for LOUISE RICKARD - WHO? 5 for JAMIE ROBERTS- (third) 6 for GERAINT THOMAS - WHO? (2nd) Calls cost 15p from a BT landline. Mobiles and other networks may be higher. Lines are open from 08.00 to 20.00 each day, Monday 30 November to Saturday 5 December when they finally close at 20.00. Voting not limited to wales either. |
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Maybe something in the programme as well. For me Giggs is in the right spot as 2nd fav with the information we have at the moment. Nobody knows what exactly what impact xf will have on the voting, or of course the edit (altho we can be pretty sure F1 will get a good one, but they have MOTD too).
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Look back at the Calzaghe win in 2007. I don't think that it would be smart to carry a red on Giggs.
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Given that Cycling organised very effectively last year what are the chances of them doing so again but for a single candidate not four. Granted there isn't the Scottish vote behind him and the IOM probably has less of a voting block.
Hell of a lot of active cyclists in Britain who know all about Cav and who would be less inclined to be sitting in watching the X factor. Decent price imo |
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In my cyber travels Cavendish's name came up much more than I expected. I would expect him to be in the top 3 along with Button and Giggs, but he could miss out if the home support for Ennis in Sheffield gets her into the top 3.
None of us can be sure whether the Man U and Welsh support will translate into votes. My instinct is that it will do massively, but I could be totally wrong, in which case I'll take it on the chin. But if he does romp the vote and I don't win big I'll be as mad as hell because in hindsight it will all look so blindingly obvious. |
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I dont expect Cav to come anywhere near the top 3.
My pick to upset the 3 favs and grab 3rd spot would be Beth Tweddle. |
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what is the motivation to vote for Button please?
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Hope you're right Seanvice - when I read the following story about her not getting a phone call from the Prime Minister I backed her for top 3.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article6881563.ece I also thought the following line was very powerful perhaps the greatest feat ever achieved by a British athlete of either sex in the history of indoor sports. from this article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/oct/20/beth-tweddle-jenson-button Trouble is deserving or not, I have picked up little support for her in polls and forums, so I'm not too hopefully, though I'd be pleased to be proved wrong. |
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I pretty sure its going to be Idowu, Daley, Murray in the bottom 3.
I would also say Cavendish and Strauss 6th and 7th, I think Tweddle (along with Ennis) is the one most dependant on coverage, with no coverage she could well be around 6th/7th herself, with a lot of coverage she could be 3rd/4th. If you remeber the year she was 3rd she did the A.Bar's routine during the show, and James Tosland was 500 odd votes off 3rd in 2007 after he played an instrument during the show after being a rank rank outsider. The only way Ennis has any chance of winning is if they talk her up hugley, she gives a nice interview and an added bonus of maybe setting up a sand pit or high jump mat for her in the arena for her to demonstrate like Tweddle in '06. |
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Wales is a small place: population =3m which is 1/17 of the England population of 51m
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also much less than the population of Scotland which is over 5m.
so proportionately if Hoy got 100,000 Scottish votes then Giggs would get 60,000. But more importantly that is assuming Giggs is as popular in Wales as Hoy was in Scotland. Hoy won 3 golds ......... has Giggs achieved as much ? Also motor racing has fanatical support .......... is returning to the BBC and Button is the World Champion. |
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Hoy won 3 golds ......... has Giggs achieved as much
well yeah he has done abit to be honest........ |
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He's kicked a ball around as part of a football team...
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