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By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:23
and he did it twice as well, the red & the red then the red & the yellow
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 21:26
In that situation, Mr W, the referee dare not move the object ball when using a temporary substitute, even by the tiniest fraction. It is reasonable therefore to goes as close as possible and then to make allowances for any gap in his decision.

The real error here was not placing the temporary red beside the yellow on a right-angled tangent.
By:
uptheirons
When: 07 Dec 25 21:30
I know the rules of snooker,wonders.
Clearly,you do not
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 21:31
For my money the true answer was so close as to be impossible to state with any confident authority. Overhead technology would determine it within seconds.
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:32
when he puts the new red next to the red you can hit the new red full on
therefore not a free ball

he then calls free ball because he doesn't understand the rule imo
then when challenged he gets the 3rd red out & puts it next to the yellow in such a way to justify his error
and he is called out for it by judd & then validated by selby
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:32

Dec 7, 2025 -- 9:30PM, uptheirons wrote:


I know the rules of snooker,wonders.Clearly,you do not


you know f all

By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:34

Dec 7, 2025 -- 9:30PM, uptheirons wrote:


I know the rules of snooker,wonders.Clearly,you do not


think you know better than the 2 players ffs utterly clueless imbecile

By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:36
incredible
By:
uptheirons
When: 07 Dec 25 21:38
Good night,cretin.
You are beyond help
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:39
laters
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 21:40
I really hope Mark wins, otherwise that controversial incident will have probably proven a pivotal moment.
By:
uptheirons
When: 07 Dec 25 21:41
It already has,pokermonster
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:42
the only controversial part is the referee's involvement
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 21:42
True, Mr U, but he'll be able to quickly forget about it if he wins!
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:43
could have taken advantage but its bad form
By:
uptheirons
When: 07 Dec 25 21:44
I sincerely hope he does but that was a self inflicted moment
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 21:46
I believe Judd saying it wasn't even close played a big role in his decision.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 21:49
Which was a bit naughty because it clearly was very close, but perhaps understandable and forgivable given the pressure of the situation.
By:
uptheirons
When: 07 Dec 25 21:49
It is never bad form to abide by the referees decision
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:50
pm when the new red is placed next to but not touching the red, do you think he can hit the new red full?
By:
uptheirons
When: 07 Dec 25 21:51
Let us not argue over what has already been decided as it will not alter a thing
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:53
there's no arguing
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 21:53
Mr W... as Olivier had it set you could not hit it full ball, as discussed in the studio, hence his free ball decision.

The problem being, however, those temporary balls were not quite placed correctly. Had they been it would have moved matters towards not being a free ball. I don't know what the true answer really was... it was on a knife edge for me.
By:
uptheirons
When: 07 Dec 25 21:55
There is no arguingLaughLaughLaugh
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:57
Pokermonster • December 7, 2025 9:53 PM GMT
Mr W... as Olivier had it set you could not hit it full ball, as discussed in the studio, hence his free ball decision


even with his set up I think you could
and so did the players

then when he incorrectly placed the 3rd red next to the yellow there was small overlap "suggesting" a free ball
except its irrelevant due to the placement
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 21:59
do you remember that free ball incident with kessler a few years ago?

they should know the rules but its not a given!!
By:
uptheirons
When: 07 Dec 25 21:59
There are people that would argue that black is white and we have one hereLaugh
By:
Gutless Wonder
When: 07 Dec 25 21:59
Need the ref from the Real Madrid match this evening - sending a couple Real players off - booking others - taking no carp -would have told Selby to sit in his chair and shut up - I've made the decision
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 21:59
Perhaps we will have to agree to disagree, Mr W.

Maybe we can find some common ground on the fact it was very close indeed.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 22:02
No, I don't recall the Kessler incident, sir.

I have, however, witnessed several referees apparently unaware of the tangent line's importance.
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 22:03
oh no disagreement on it being marginal he just handled it terribly
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 22:09
Mr U and Mr W...

On the subjects of arguments, I think you gentlemen mind find this thread of mine from fifteen years ago rather amusing.

https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23528278/snooker-discussion-putting-topspin-on-a-cueball?post_id=420583550#420583550
By:
Pokermonster
When: 07 Dec 25 22:10
Mr U and Mr W...

On the subject of arguments, I think you gentlemen might find this thread of mine from fifteen years ago rather amusing.

https://community.betfair.com/chit_chat/go/thread/view/94038/23528278/snooker-discussion-putting-topspin-on-a-cueball?post_id=420583550#420583550
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 22:10
there's been no arguing pm just differing opinions expressed
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 22:12
ah the heady days of chit chat Grin
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 22:12
I think covid put paid to that
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 22:14
topspin imparted on a snooker ball by a cue yes or no

...I'll leave that 1 to uti...he knows everything
By:
uptheirons
When: 07 Dec 25 22:17
Not that you are arguing Laugh
By:
wondersobright
When: 07 Dec 25 22:21
could be judd's last shot
By:
Gutless Wonder
When: 07 Dec 25 22:22
Mile away with that one
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