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Start this morning at 1000.
Would have loved Totten v Mann to have been a TV table, but alas it's not. Zizins v Dylboy the very obvious pick of those that are.
Not around for the first part of this evening, so likely won't do much, if anything, in this first session.
Would have loved Totten v Mann to have been a TV table, but alas it's not. Zizins v Dylboy the very obvious pick of those that are.
Not around for the first part of this evening, so likely won't do much, if anything, in this first session.
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They've both been shocking, 4-2 Ali.
4-4 Page, 5-3 Mugthew, 6-3 Hoss
4-4 Page, 5-3 Mugthew, 6-3 Hoss
Page gets in with a good red and gives himself an excellent chance to steal, but he misses the black off it and gifts the frame, 8-5 JOC.
Mugthew misses the yellow when in with an absolute golden chance to steal for 8-6
Ali steals on the black. Quite fitting, really, that it should end like that, 10-5. Whoever gets him first round should be rubbing their hands together.
Stevens arguing about being called a miss there - not happy
Yeah, ref's backed himself into a corner here. Not sure you physically can hit it.
We've had "have a good Christmas" 
- If Matthew loses - will the ref say "have a good summer"
- If Matthew loses - will the ref say "have a good summer"
9-7 JOC
Gao was at the table on the blue to steal and win v Fan. Don't know if he missed or played safe.
Selt and Jimmy better get on with it - the draws in 12 hrs time
Shame you didn't play it like you fancied it, Mugthew. Blue's horrible in these circs
Green-brown-blue was never going to be guaranteed, but didn't think he'd miss the green
all that experience and stevens plays like an amateur when it mattered
why take the black on when 45 up?? just snooker him or put colour safe, crazy
I was gobsmacked he took the black on. IF he was going to take a pot on, it had to be the blue, as smelly as that was.
dont have pics on selt but would love to see him lose
Well that's been an entertaining week and a half. Hopefully the main event itself delivers.
Draw tomorrow morning, early doors.
Draw tomorrow morning, early doors.
never forgiven STEVENS, few years back i think like 2rd v higgins , and he had a few frames lead, and was certain to go further ahead in next frame, he had a good lead and a sitter colour, but the 147 was on, the black wasnt really on, but what did he do, went for the glory instead of making certain of the frame, needless to say he missed, higgins cleared up and from then on won nearly every frame
So WST says anyway, but it doesn't look like it is to me.
Live on Radio 5, though.
Live on Radio 5, though.
Kyren Wilson v Lei Peifan
Xiao Guodong v Matthew Selt
Neil Robertson v Chris Wakelin
Mark Williams v Wu Yize
Barry Hawkins v Hossein Vafaei
Jak Jones v Zhao Xintong
Mark Allen v Fan Zhengyi
Ding Junhui v Zak Surety
Si Jiahui v David Gilbert
John Higgins v Joe O'Connor
Zhang Anda v Pang Junxu
Shaun Murphy v Daniel Wells
Ronnie O'Sullivan v Ali Carter
Judd Trump v Zhou Yuelong
Luca Brecel v Ryan Day
Mark Selby v Ben Woollaston
Xiao Guodong v Matthew Selt
Neil Robertson v Chris Wakelin
Mark Williams v Wu Yize
Barry Hawkins v Hossein Vafaei
Jak Jones v Zhao Xintong
Mark Allen v Fan Zhengyi
Ding Junhui v Zak Surety
Si Jiahui v David Gilbert
John Higgins v Joe O'Connor
Zhang Anda v Pang Junxu
Shaun Murphy v Daniel Wells
Ronnie O'Sullivan v Ali Carter
Judd Trump v Zhou Yuelong
Luca Brecel v Ryan Day
Mark Selby v Ben Woollaston
cheers, tough draw for wilson to regin his crown probably xintong, robbo/allen, ronnie/selby and final
looks like some juicy matches, ronnie v ali always heated
surely ronnie price has to drift with that draw, very, very hard with trump not far away and murphy second round
The Ronnie v Ali H2H is ridiculously one-sided, and Ali was awful throughout qualifying.
Who knows what you're going to get from Ronnie, if he even turns up, though?
Judd's not been playing well, Robbo's in and out.... You can pick holes in most of the "top" players, IMHO.
No-one's scoring better than Zhao since his return. The only thing is, he's not really played anybody top class yet.
Who knows what you're going to get from Ronnie, if he even turns up, though?
Judd's not been playing well, Robbo's in and out.... You can pick holes in most of the "top" players, IMHO.
No-one's scoring better than Zhao since his return. The only thing is, he's not really played anybody top class yet.
Unless MJW's had his eyes lasered since his last outing, odds-against Wu is huge.
I'm liking Smurphy's price 25/1 so that my main bet.
O'connor should go well, even though a tough 1st round with Higgs.
Last years finalist Jak Jones has a horrible draw, but that didnt stop him last year...
GL Chaps & Chaplets.
O'connor should go well, even though a tough 1st round with Higgs.
Last years finalist Jak Jones has a horrible draw, but that didnt stop him last year...
GL Chaps & Chaplets.
The Ronnie v Ali H2H is ridiculously one-sided, and Ali was awful throughout qualifying.
Who knows what you're going to get from Ronnie, if he even turns up, though?
Fail to see how Ronnie can be trusted at so short - Carter not great, but got through Q still.
He has beaten him in this event before too - the famous aggro match too, lol
I don't think Ronnie has any psychological edge here, most likely the other way around.
Who knows what you're going to get from Ronnie, if he even turns up, though?
Fail to see how Ronnie can be trusted at so short - Carter not great, but got through Q still.
He has beaten him in this event before too - the famous aggro match too, lol
I don't think Ronnie has any psychological edge here, most likely the other way around.
Best time to lay Ronnie is in this 1st round match bet IMO - if he does win a match it will likely settle him and make him more dangerous
21-1 H2H and you think Ali has the psychological edge?!
Yeh but it's that '1' that most likely Ronnie has sitting in his head 
(He's got 2 other championship league wins against him too, though they are a bit pointless I know)
(He's got 2 other championship league wins against him too, though they are a bit pointless I know)
By psychology edge I'm also factoring that both (esp Ronnie) will know Ronnie is completely 'without a run' here, so has no match fitness
Fair enough. Just to be clear, I'm not saying I think Ronnie is a good thing. I am simply saying that I think the idea that he will fear playing Ali is fanciful. It's a match I wouldn't play at all before the start.
I still don't buy that Ronnie's absence is due to getting used to the new cue. Selby kind of alluded to it this morning during the draw. "Ronnie is the sort of player who can pick up any piece of wood and be at one with it straight away". Paraphrasing slightly, but that was the gist.
My gut feeling is that it's all linked to the breakup with Laila.
If I'm wrong and it is cue related, I doubt he'll turn up unless he thinks he's ready. Why miss half the season and then still come back before you're ready? Wouldn't make sense to me.
I still don't buy that Ronnie's absence is due to getting used to the new cue. Selby kind of alluded to it this morning during the draw. "Ronnie is the sort of player who can pick up any piece of wood and be at one with it straight away". Paraphrasing slightly, but that was the gist.
My gut feeling is that it's all linked to the breakup with Laila.
If I'm wrong and it is cue related, I doubt he'll turn up unless he thinks he's ready. Why miss half the season and then still come back before you're ready? Wouldn't make sense to me.
It's true Carter isn't his hardest opponent, and I agree with a lot of your wider thoughts from the psychology side.
Although one thing Carter brings here, is that Ronnie would hate to lose against him personally too.
Although one thing Carter brings here, is that Ronnie would hate to lose against him personally too.
Just out of interest, if the match is started (i.e. frames played) and Ron then decides to quit, the market isn't voided is it?
Though I know it would be void if he doesn't turn up (walkover)
Though I know it would be void if he doesn't turn up (walkover)
Nope, if that match starts, the player progressing is deemed the winner.
We had a situation in the Gibraltar Open a few years back, can't remember who, but flights were diverted to Span, and someone had failed to notify WST that they weren't going to make the match. The ref was present, the opponent was present, the opponent got given the first frame due to late arrival, and the subsequent frames at timed intervals thereafter. Fella not even in the country deemed (for betting purposes) a loser.
We had a situation in the Gibraltar Open a few years back, can't remember who, but flights were diverted to Span, and someone had failed to notify WST that they weren't going to make the match. The ref was present, the opponent was present, the opponent got given the first frame due to late arrival, and the subsequent frames at timed intervals thereafter. Fella not even in the country deemed (for betting purposes) a loser.
Ok cheers.
Just that with Ron, that possibility has to be considered I reckon!
Just that with Ron, that possibility has to be considered I reckon!
Apr 17, 2025 -- 9:37AM, Latalomne wrote:
The Ronnie v Ali H2H is ridiculously one-sided, and Ali was awful throughout qualifying.Who knows what you're going to get from Ronnie, if he even turns up, though?Judd's not been playing well, Robbo's in and out....
Latalomne • April 17, 2025 9:37 AM BST
No-one's scoring better than Zhao since his return. The only thing is, he's not really played anybody top class yet.
Was trying to respond to this. Nail on head as usual, i reckon. Nobody better in the game than tearing up the mugs than Zhao right now, but top guys will be licking their lips at amount of chances he'll gift them. Unless i'm not up to speed and he's maturing and tightening up his game. No clue really, but happy to watch and find out.
No-one's scoring better than Zhao since his return. The only thing is, he's not really played anybody top class yet.
Was trying to respond to this. Nail on head as usual, i reckon. Nobody better in the game than tearing up the mugs than Zhao right now, but top guys will be licking their lips at amount of chances he'll gift them. Unless i'm not up to speed and he's maturing and tightening up his game. No clue really, but happy to watch and find out.
isjohn • April 16, 2025 12:14 PM BST
in the past there was a tournament in Pontins Prestatyn n wales held every year, can anyone tell me if it was the world champs qualifiers ?
There were loads of tournaments, amateur, pro, pro-am played in Prestatyn over the decades, including World and other main tour event qualifiers. World qualifiers were played right after xmas, first week of janurary iirc, players referred to it as the "cubicle", as opposed to the crucible. A right sh!thole in the depths of winter, think it lasted up to around 2011 or 2012 when WS rejigged things.
in the past there was a tournament in Pontins Prestatyn n wales held every year, can anyone tell me if it was the world champs qualifiers ?
There were loads of tournaments, amateur, pro, pro-am played in Prestatyn over the decades, including World and other main tour event qualifiers. World qualifiers were played right after xmas, first week of janurary iirc, players referred to it as the "cubicle", as opposed to the crucible. A right sh!thole in the depths of winter, think it lasted up to around 2011 or 2012 when WS rejigged things.
Morning John, I didn't actually watch too much of his qualifiers, but the one thing that can be said about all of them was that there was a very high ratio of 50s scored per frame played, and that wasn't just Zhao making them. That certainly backs up the idea that when he misses, he leaves very good chances for his opponents. It's then all down to whether they can take them or not.
Interesting mate, that does pretty much fit with my perceptions of him and the course of his matches. I remember a quote from Reardon one time saying how he always loved drawing Alex because no matter how well he was playing, he'd still gift you chances and it was all on your cue. Hard to play no miss snooker for 2 weeks solid. Kyren gone does open things up a bit more though and not sure Jak looking like a guy will take enough opportunities here. Still long way to go, though.
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