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I think McManus is correct, Ronnie is get fatigued and probably due to the ticking clock.
I really can`t see Ronnie being up for the World Championships grind. |
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Will do good for trump no doubt but pecker is right, he did not play well..could hardly really have lost under the circumstances
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He was lucky to beat gould very lucky,first time I've seen him knuckle down tonight and play some class safety brings his A game along will be more than a handful for anyone,the big difference now is he knows he can beat anyone even when playing just his b game.That's a big break through for someone who just likes to attack,took jimmy 10 years taken trump 5...
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At least Judd has that monkey off his back and onwards and upwards for Sheffield.
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Ronnie's talking last week about quitting again, nobody takes him seriously of course but its the same sh!t he was goin on with 5 years ago when his head was totally gone and dont think a trip to china gonna do much to lift his mood. Does not bode well for the crucibe thats for sure
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He's got away with murder the last 4/5 seasons just catching up with him now,eventually players had to start punishing him plus the yips are in the game now,no way back..
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He is probably in the worst form of career right now and i`m sure that he senses snooker is doing his head in again. I notice that he is working with his investors on focusing on other projects. I think the end is nigh.
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In fairness Angel theres no logical reason why he shouldnt be in the worst form of his career, he's pushing 40, just like Higgins and Williams, so got to hand him credit for still being ahead of most of the pack. I did think at this stage he'd wind his commitments right down, play 4 or 5 ranking tournies, the masters and maybe champino of champions and then come to sheffield fresh and focussed on equalling or passing Hendry. Why bother with crap like the shoot-out and this itv event which obviously didnt get his juices flowing. But no point in speculating bout it cos we'll never know what goes on inside that oddball head of his
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Very true john, but i have always with Ronnies game that when it dips under a certain level then that will be it and i sense it now and he senses it. He has won more World Championships that JHiggins so in his eyes that`s enough because he really rates John. I think it`s here now and he will be gone very soon.
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plain too see this tournament his heart had hardly been in it
but he will probably be up for worlds,and then we will see him in a better light if ronnie had his way would just play in the majors person i feel sorry for this tournament was Gould really let himself down 5=1 up and losing..... felt up to that played some great stuff...... |
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they can all play some great stuff when they're in their comfort zone playing ppl they feel they have the advantage over and can beat
but when the roles are reversed their confidence ebbs away,they start wobbling and contrive to lose from quasi invincible positions that even stevie wonder would have a job to lose from all these guys have the skill sets but so much of top sport is played out between the ears when its mano a mano |
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Yes rewired...i agree ronnie has no interest in several of the tournaments but contract stipulations probably force his hand. I'd worry for him if he gets a tough draw though, lets face it, he was basically albe to sleepwalk his way into the last 3 finals, and after last week, unless his acting skills have improved, i seriously doubt he'll manage the grind of 2 long weeks in Sheffield. If it all goes t!ts up, expect a few lively tantrums and a tirade or two in the direction of a former manager of his.
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Yes John, and Ronnie seems to also re-entered the `i am bigger than snooker` mindset especially now his investors are talking global shaker maker projects. There was no need for him to carry any chip on his shoulder into this event as the top prize was 100K( as he was bemoaning the cash in snooker) and he loved the venue but as we could see he was half hearted in his approach when he realised his touch was not A1.
The resilience maybe ebbing away and snooker is a tough mental grind, no more than at Sheffield. Other players in the top 10 will be more hungry as then sense him waning. Yes he thrashed a poor Bingham but there are many bogged down sessions to wade through at Sheffield and like most Derby types they have a chance of staying the St Leger trip but unlikely if they meet stamina sapping ground. Lay Ronnie he is finished. Where is Moondan!  |
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Fair point Angel but dont horses usually get further the older they grow as they lose that bit of speed and class they had as youngsters? Maybe he's more of a modern Red Rum type, trying to win another National before the light dies, the obstacles have got easier, the opposition are basically a bunch of decent handicappers, but any bit of rain is going to test his stamina and resilience to the limit?
Anyway enough of such frivolity..where indeed is moondan? Have little doubt he would have fully savoured the vintage snooker that was on show last week ;) |
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Good point gj, hope he's ok.
Can't see past Judd at Sheffield. |
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Judd wont win at Sheffield..............end of............wont win.....
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Its all about the judd
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Just hope some more players turn up,the worlds have been dire for years if it wasn't for Selby last year it would've been absolutely diabolical..
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Don`t underestimate Graeme Dott.
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Will the scot dott get hot and pot the lot as ronnie loses the plot at sheffield? I fear not....
But I will probably back him anyway... |
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Have to say ronnie has been bad for a while now and his attitude v trump was the old ronnie, but i just think hel somehow get himself up for the worlds
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I can`t see Ronnie beating Selby, Trump or Robertson at Sheffield and perhaps a couple of others that get under his skin. I think Ronnie is already making excuses why he may not succeed at Sheffield. Business priorities elsewhere, he uses snooker and not the other was around etc.
That defeat by Selby hurt him, wounded him more than it first appeared. He was really trying and Selby found another gear. He will not look forward to anymore battles at Sheffield, i think his resilience needs to be A1 to win at Sheffield. It`s not even close to being there in my eyes. |
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Think ronnie went off last year 2/1 might be double this year
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The problem for Ronnie this year is that if he is not mentally right the finishing line in a 17 day event is going to look a very long way away and long matches over more than one session which is normally an advantage for him might have the opposite affect if his head is not in the right place.
The last few years a Ronnie backer had the advantage of another session if things went wrong. This year a Ronnie backer has another session to sweat over even if things are going well. A normal player has a bad week and they roll up the following week without any luggage. If Ronnie has a bad period he gets doubts and when he gets doubts the head goes and when the head goes everything goes! |
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Getting past John Higgins was an incentive for Ronnie, he now has 5 World Championships. At the time i thought he might kick on and get within touching distance of Hendry. I was wrong, Moondan was right. The fire that he needs in his belly is merely a flicker of what it was 3 years ago. On top of that his mid range shots seem to be that of an ageing player. Once he is in among the balls, yes he finds it easier to score than anyone else barring Trump or a few others on their day but i sense he is losing that ability to get in, and that will frustrate him and then the balls start going against you etc. Can he dig deep when this happens or will the stress be all over his face or that petulant smirk as though he is saying ` you not what i don`t even care`
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Agree with most of the analysis here. There's obviously a bipolar thing going on with ronnie motivation wise, one day he probably burns with desire to match hendry, the next he couldnt care less if he wins another match again. I was suckered into the belief that ronnie desperately wanted hendry's record last year and that would do it for him, but as you say Angel, Selby basically crushed him, gave him a glimpse of what it was going to take to win 2 more titles and Ronnie didn't fancy it.
He might still surprise us and fancy he'll turn up in Sheffield determined to give it a rattle and might even turn on the style to begin with, but the first real test will come sooner or later and while I'd dearly love him to get through it, just can't find the faith at the moment. |