Ukraine only had 2 choices. Resist Russian aggression or go back to being part of Russia and being ruled by Putin. Neither choice was very good so they have ended up in 4 years of destruction with much loss of life..

Trump is facilitating the loss of life by turning off starlink and today waiving sanctions, simply trying to get Ukraine to surrender, disgusting as it is for him to spout more rubbish re peace in time for the midterms. A quisling.

I think what ron is saying is that Kennedy was wrong and he should not have risked everyones lives by taking a stand at the "cuban missile crisis".

Surrender to all attacks is what he is saying.


of course, he's only saying that because he is working for the attackers.

So Ronald what do you expect to happen to Ukrainians if they surrender? At best they will be low paid slaves, at worst (soldiers and Goverment employees) they will be shot.

'I expect if there were a peace deal Ukraine would have to give up some of their territory'

er.. why? they have been invaded by someone you describe as a brutal dictator. just give it up you say

might is right. the weak submit and the strong prevail. and bollox to the civilians. is that it?


if this template was followed elsewhere there would be many fewer contries in the world and several bigger nastier ones

but the bit about 'a peace deal' is the worst

ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons. in return russia agreed, at the budapest conference that;

'The Russian Federation reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations'

hows that going?

the greatest political miscalculation in recent history, ie trusting russia, has resulted in the destruction of a friendly neighbour and a million corpses. and counting

no other country will do likewise. on the contrary, more will seek to acquire them because if you are a small country that ronaldo says cant win, its a way of safeguarding your territory

proliferation will result. some countries like the nordic states could become nuclear powers-they have the brainpower-but they see its danger. they aint daft and sweden and finland didnt join nato for a giggle. they hate and fear putin, and with good reason

islamo nations are too stoopid but if they get one, then look out. all the stuff about  m a d goes out the window. d is what they want

How dare Zelensky defends his country.
I'll turn your question around on you RON, is Trump doing the right thing by siding with Russia who incidentally are helping Iran with the war Trump started?

He has sent over $220 million this year already to Ukraine a tidy sum so the idea he is siding with Russia is nonsense. Zelensky is perfectly free defending his country it's the people dying that's the issue. If you were being mugged lapsy by someone much stronger and better armed than you, and you knew it was a suicide mission to defend your wallet would you hand it over to the mugger? I would hand it over like a shot and live to fight another day. It's the only rational thing to do in the circs.

A wallet can be replaced, Their childrens future can not be replaced if it is surrendered.


The British know this and went thru this alone.
Surrender is a fate worse than fighting with absolutely everything you have.


But for magaloons, it's money thats ranked above the importance of their children.


Trump surrendered to the Taliban, signed on the dotted line and surrendered, why doesn't he do the same in Iran?

As an aside after Ukraine bombed a Russian data centre racist Irish twitter posts fall off a cliff concerning an IPAS centre in Offaly.

Is President Trump the most narcissistic and obnoxious POTUS ever? Not a day seems to go by without him causing and creating controversy unilaterally.

Classic art of the deal.

If there's a peace deal you don't have to trust Russia because the war would be back on if he reneges on it. You would have a stronger case for arguing that Russia should never have trusted NATO. Why is it you armchair generals can't simple questions? I just want to know if you think Zelensky should carry on having people press ganged? People who are making honest arguments don't need to be super-evasive and make dishonest arguments about victim blaming. I have never blamed the Ukraine people and I would much prefer for them all to remain alive.