What you should be asking Cider is the very point YHTL brought up,why threaten people with what is actually an 'asset' to the threatening tory party, they are getting minted by smokers?

Not advocating smoking in any form but it is the threads topic, brexit has cost smokers bigly, if you are arguing smoking is on the wane and thankfully is surely the tories are full of sheet so and should shut their mouths?

Out of I believe, over 8 million claimants. Far more people than the whole of the Southern Irish population

The current incentives are nothing to do with a safety net.

I'll dig out a post I read the other day, one mo.

I said i agree with your point why full time when i'm getting next to the same for 20 hours,i can see that,i am really against the triple lock as workers are getting rode.
A time and place maybe 10 years or so ago these wouldn't be a huge deal but the real problem is the situation isn't looking at all good.

That is quite scandalous, 5 stars for inventiveness and if it was the so called 'rich' doing it would it get the same scrutiny? The loopholes were never for ordinary Joe.

Oh Dixie i could have talked about cutters,flandria or any of the other fine virginian blends,the trip was about tobacco,not the slabs or the sheety choc seashells or washing powder(lol).
2 nice malts indeed,i stick to chivas generally though aldis highland black i rate highly.

The Government not only creates loopholes it removes tax liabilities for everyone. I still fill out a tax return. I can earn £1000 in fixed interest outside an ISA and unlimited interest/dividends inside an ISA. £500 in dividends from ordinary shares outside of an ISA and unlimited inside and now this year for the first time, I can earn £1000 from furnished holiday property lettings free of tax and as my wife and I share the holiday let, that means £1000 each. Why when the country is so desperately short of revenue have they changed this, in our case costing HMRC £400. The allowances above are available to everyone who has any savings at all. Their reasoning seems to be that they can't be bothered with small amounts but as it is all computerised, it does not cost them much in staff time. 5 million people getting £2500 tax free outside of ISAs is £12.5 billion. At 20% income tax they are losing £2.5 billion from these "trivial" allowances and it might well be more like 20 million people so £10 billion. Hope they don't read this Forum

For many people, savings interest only maintains the value of cash. It's not real income.

A massive amount of peoples' capital has already been taxed, ie at the point it was income before becoming capital.

A MONUMEMTAL amount of cash sits in dormant savings accounts / current accounts, attracting either no interest, or jokes rates under 1%.

People were going to Europe to bring Back BACCI a long time before Brexit

Won't be a bother. Welcome to the new idea of tobacco/alcohol banks!

I've heard nobody talking about this on the media, or from any political party. But someone who manages to get themselves on PIP can 'go' to uni, obtain a student 'loan' for fees and maintenance (not a penny will be repaid, so effectively a huge cash bung called maintenance), all whilst remaining on elevated UC and PIP. Some UC will be disregarded, but if they rent as well, looking at £2k+ a month of handouts.

It's a massive ruse and a significant incentive to get DLA then converted to PIP.

If the individuals were taken off benefits after graduation, that would be partially sensible. But that's not going to happen, it's just abused to extract more cash from the broken system.

It's certainly the other way around now, getting 'awarded' is seen as beating the system, and celebrated. Plenty of middle class families doing it too, as I noted, to get their child on DLA. All the cherished MH conditions also get them advantages in education, sympathetic marking, extensions and so on.

I suspect plenty of valid potential claimants miss out too, as they play it straight and don't understand exactly how the scoring works and what gets the points.