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Tory plans for long term unemployed- really nasty stuff
Tory plans for long term unemployed- really nasty stuff
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And that's just the first hand in the till. 148 'family' members to follow.
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The arrivals are doing very well if they are getting circa half a mill a year (6.08pm)
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my bad lapsy, decimal point went missing, it's around 31.2 m a year, gone in one day.
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A lot less of them but they shouldn't be any really.
Everything under the microscope now,cut cut cut,we said we weren't raising taxes except sneaky ones we can get away with. I agree with Ciders point re human nature why the f eck should you if you can get away with it(20 hours etc). The triple lock is wrong as full time workers aren't getting those rises, the pensioners for the good of the country will have to make sacrifices in that they should only accept what is 'fair'.. |
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In 2000 over 65s accounted for 16% of the population. Now it's 19-19.7%. It's projected to be over 25% in 10 years time.
Pensioners account for half the welfare budget. That'll increase by over 25% in the next ten years (and will get progressively worse after that) That's just the welfare budget. There's going to be increased demand on the NHS too. Also it's not just the increase in pensioners. There will be less workers to pay for it. |
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That's just the 10 year forecast. In 2000 the birth rate was 1.7. Now it's under 1.39. It's going to get worse at a much faster rate in 10-30 years
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And what impact do you feel population increase will have on those numbers?
I'm not sure why your intelligence eludes you when debating this type of stuff. If you're claiming a huge increase in the birth rate will help, then any impact from that is over 20 years away. We could stop mass immigration tomorrow. More people = more demand from the same limited resources. Believe it or not, babies use up a lot of resources, including benefit handouts and the NHS. |
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Stop the babies.... Ffs cider on one.
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Absolute basic common sense, import millions of people now and they will be pensioners of the future. What can you do about that. Oh that's right, we need yet more people. aka, ponzi
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Burying your head in the hands and not thinking about the future in 20 years time is like a UK playbook for the crumbling infrastructure and environmental damage of the last 70 years. Bit we have 2005-2026 with an average birth rate of about 1.5 . That's the hear and now.
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here and now
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Yes Clydebank,in a normal scenario contingency planning would be well underway but not so it seems.
That isn't just a UK problem but given the level of borrowing and interest stymies that and makes it currently can kicking epically down the road, that just seems to be the mantra but surely will be a day when the road ends. In theory a bigger population isn't necessarily a bad thing if the calibre of immigrants is 'mostly' right. It is at a cost to ones indigenous soul which can never be taken back but a lot of that is rose tinted. |
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The birth rate needs to increase but only once the failed mass immigration project is completely abandoned. ie, the overall population should be stable or falling, then yes, replace newly dead people with new babies.
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It's estimated that a pensioner costs the health service 4 times as much as a newborn. Looked it up, but it was pretty obvious.
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That's a choice. The completely broken NHS system is a whole other debate entirely.
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We are fooked without immigration. But it needs to be managed much better than it is and illegal immigrants need to be sent straight back. Obv not as easy as that else it would be done already.
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We are fooked because of mass immigration. And nothing will improve until the root course of the issue is addressed.
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The US health system is completely broken. Three times more expensive than here and they live 4 to 5 years less.
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We need immigrants because of the birth rate. It's not rocket science.
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We might have too many and the wrong type but don't be under any illusion that we need them
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how many of them work full time with no benefits?
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and will continue to need them for the foreseeable future
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Cider it is immigrants on basically minimum pay doing the jobs no one wants to do for the most part.
Take the whole lot of them out of the equation and where are you? |
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It's complete hogwash. Pretty much everything the state runs is failing as there are too many people. Name something that the state (or pseudo state) runs that is functional?
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I'm not advocating kicking out immigrants working full time that are legally here, lapsy.
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You aren't wrong in parts as prisons,health,schooling,housing all have come under pressure. However and i am saying it from experience,an immigrant has no choice but to work,for a roof over their head and food on the table as they are basically alone without family in a different country.
Glad you said that (8.21pm) because others seem to and that is so wrong on every level. |
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That was the case a few decades ago, but absolutely not now. I knew the answer that I posed to CB earlier, perhaps he does too as he didn't respond. 25% of immigration visas issued are for work.
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Obviously, plenty of them will either be lying, stupid jobs or only done for a few months to get in.
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Apart from the fact it cant work due to either the recipient buying allowed food and selling it for cash or the shopkeeper simply ringing up allowed food and giving them cigarettes or alcohol , the admin will cost millions for no gain .
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That's the case now for the illegal immigrant credit card. There are ways around it for sure, but it's a lot more awkward than the cash simply being dropped into your bank account.
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If they spend it on cigarettes the government get most of it straight back...
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Lol indeed ^ a nice day trip if you were a smoker and a drinker,a cross channel boat trip (legit) and fill up with your smokes and cheap drink for a fraction of the price.
Brexiteers were against this and now are paying bigly to the exchequer as twas sovereignty but an almighty hit on their pockets,eejits. |
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too many migrant spotters these days
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an almighty hit on their pockets,eejits.
Crikey lapsy, how much do you think the average day tripper did/does bring back ? You still have an allowance and most people i know are quite happy with that as they never used to bring more than that back anyway. The ones who used to fill their vans up used to pretend they were for their own consumption but flogged most of the stuff in the pub  You can still get most spirits cheaper here than in duty free, as the supermarkets or Amazon always have something with a hefty discount. I buy single malts regularly and often get them a lot cheaper for instance on Tesco Clubcard prices - they have Jura @ £23 and Auchentoshan @ £22 at the moment. And do Remainers not smoke or drink ? |
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Very selective Dixie and you know well where i'm going to come at you.
50g of Golden Virginia Tescos UK, £46.40, 50g of Golden Virginia Belgium £18.07/ 50 packets is the bones of £1400 and yes that is for a day. |
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And yes also i did do it years ago but personal use.
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I did it because i could.
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What a perverse argument. That's nothing to do with brexit, deliberate choice to put people off purchasing tobacco via tax. Vastly more is spent on weed these days, no tax involved.
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Delicious really how people are forced to turn their arguments inside out to maintain an ideology. All of a sudden, excessive tax is bad and smoking is good
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It is everything Cider because no brexit you could head off to the smoky village on the French/Belgian border and buy your product and to boot as much as you wanted for yourself for 18 notes,that choice was there,you could do it legally but now you have to go to Tesco and pay 46 notes,that's brexit in rollie terms.
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