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Long term unemployed to be banned from smoking, drinking and HAVING ANY CASH BENEFIT. So if you're down on your luck these c unts won't even let you have a pint to drown your sorrows.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/23/tories-target-universal-credit-claimants-plan-condemned-fast-track-to-poverty
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They won't be banned from smoking or drinking. They just won't be able spend tax payers money on it.
What part of the welfare state being a 'safety net' should mean people who are on what use to be Job seekers allowance should be paid by the taxpayer to sit about boozing and smoking?? |
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It's a kindness to stop them wasting their money on things that are bad for them.
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People receiving only Universal Credit benefit will not get enough money to pay for normal everyday living expenses.
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People forget that it is cheaper to give money in welfare payments than the cost of the crime that ensues when you have a sizeable segment of society with no money at all.
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Or just earn their own money. You know, like ordinary people.
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I can't read the guardian comic, obviously. It's people that get handouts and are not required to search for work that are the issue. Surprisingly few people on the taxpayer teat have commitments to search for work.
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Why should taxpayers buy f@gs & booze for people on welfare?
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Certainly not the ones that have done little or no full time work.
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How would this scheme work?
What is to stop a small off-licence selling someone a 4 pack of beer and ringing it through as a pack of nappies? |
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Not paying for it costs more than paying for it. That's loony leftie logic for you.
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I'd have thought it would be pretty simple, provide them with loaded credit cards like the illegal immigrants get.
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The cost would be the same if it's just restricting what can be bought.
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There are already secondary meerkats for all sorts of stuff, and ways to convert things to cash.
Tories fighting hard to regain their nasty party title back from refuk and restore. Not really going to achieve much good by starving kids and grannies, again. |
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Think of the kids and grannies, these poor people are going to starve from lack of booze and ****!
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Sounds like an impractical and divisive idea where the country is a net loser to me. I'd be more inclined to force healthy people to do a few hours voluntary work or national service to get their full benefits.
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So there's a huge incentive to be 'unhealthy'. Which is incredibly easy to achieve. Which is already the case, as I alluded to. There are just too many ignorant people that have no interest in looking into the detail. Until they have the incentive to be found 'unhealthy' themselves.
Impractical? Nam just follow the illegal immigrant model. Divisive? What does that mean in this context? |
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The welfare bill is becoming unmanageable not because it's all free f@gs & booze but because it is too easy to get on the gravy train.
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It's absolutely divisive to have millions of people cadging off of those who work full time. Those millions who are currently cadging aren't likely to be happy about suggested policy changes that may threaten their gravy train.
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How do you get 2.3 million workers off Benefits?
Raising the minimum wage is an obvious solution. Is having more people with more money a benefit or a hindrance to a Country? |
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Is the inflation, caused by raising the minimum wage, a benefit or a hindrance to a country?
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Do you know what the earnings limit is for UC, Escapee?
You demonstrate the ignorance that I touched on. If people have their (for example) £1200 pcm rent paid for by the taxpayer via UC, do you think they won't reduce their hours to still qualify? Or give the job up completely? UC and PIP and ESA are effectively targets, and people simply adapt their circumstances to reach the targets. If there's a threshold of earnings where claimants no longer need to search for work, and only have one remote meeting with their work coach, claimants will earn what they need to, to qualify for that. If they earn more per hour and therefore get reduced UC, it's easy. Just pay into a pension or do less hours. |
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Another variable that can be traced back to noo labour, that has slowly but surely destroyed the country. The ludicrously daft concept of in work handouts. Masterfully perpetuated by the tory party.
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It's entirely rational behaviour. If the choice is between working full time and paying for everything, or working 20 hours a week and have the 'government' give me cash top ups and pay my rent and pay for my scripts, I'm gonna choose to work 20 hours.
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For every £1 you earn from working, your Universal Credit payment goes down by 55p. Your income will be your wages plus your new Universal Credit payment.
What kind of idiot is going to choose to work for say £100 extra (net) but lose £55 (net) in benefits  |
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Is the inflation, caused by raising the minimum wage, a benefit or a hindrance to a country?
Saddo espousing a communist pay system. |
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donny, making things up because he's a bit thick, (lol)
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Every major country run by communists has implemented a minimum wage system.
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Expand on your idea, taking into consideration all those earning above minimum wage and their influence on inflation.
Tick tock... |
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We just need a government that welcomes people requiring 40k a year handouts, while simultaneously telling
wealthy people they're welcome to bugger with their money off if they don't like it here. Oh...........hang on |
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You'd be forgiven for thinking it's deliberate.
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The minimum wage is high enough. Raise it and you'll force businesses to close. The bigger issue is the cost of power, rent and housing. I say bigger. The birth rate and the environment are the ticking time bombs
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Yet the population is already growing rapidly, and has been since the late 1990s
Using up vastly more scarce resources. You don't need to be Adam Smith to work out what that means. |
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You'd be forgiven for thinking it's deliberate.
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781 new arrivals yesterday, that's about 312 million quid a year for just one day.
We can't give it away fast enough. |