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Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 11:48
Where are you Kemi, where are you?
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 11:52
Reform is set to publish a 50-page paper tomorrow called Making Welfare Work.
By:
saddo
When: 16 Aug 26 11:57
Don't underestimate Kemi, or her ability to reel former Tory voters back in.
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 12:00
This will force the Tories to introduce similar policies.

Certainly interesting as the wets in the Tories will have a breaking point.
By:
saddo
When: 16 Aug 26 12:16
Most of the party are wets, that's the problem. If they get back in it's more of the same.
As you say, let's hope she can't control them all.
By:
yak hunt
When: 16 Aug 26 12:17
A total of 9,627 people receive the Personal Independence Payment (PIP) in the Clacton parliamentary constituency.
This accounts for approximately 18% of the working-age population in the area, representing roughly two out of every 11 working-age residents.
Key Details Number of Claimants: 9,627 residents Percentage of Working-Age Population: 18% (more than double the national average)Local Context: Clacton holds the highest proportion of PIP claimants of any constituency in Essex and ranks among the highest rates nationwide.
By:
saddo
When: 16 Aug 26 12:20
Let's hope they stop motability also.
By:
Escapee
When: 16 Aug 26 12:21
Do you think this new policy will last longer than their only other published policy to give tax breaks to crypto guys?
I think that policy had to be deleted in a hurry when all those questions came up about people giving him millions.


With the numbers of people on PiP roughly quadrupling in the last 7 years of tory government, it is clear there is something massively wrong and something needs to be done about it.


The constituency he is MP for contains a considerably higher percentage of people on PIP than the national average, it's great that they have voted for this.
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 12:27

Aug 16, 2026 -- 12:17PM, yak hunt wrote:


A total of 9,627 people receive the Personal Independence Payment (PIP) in the Clacton parliamentary constituency. This accounts for approximately 18% of the working-age population in the area, representing roughly two out of every 11 working-age residents.Key Details Number of Claimants: 9,627 residents Percentage of Working-Age Population: 18% (more than double the national average)Local Context: Clacton holds the highest proportion of PIP claimants of any constituency in Essex and ranks among the highest rates nationwide.


Remind us how many votes went to fatface ?

By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 12:31
reddit are apoplectic Grin

almost as angry as nobby was at Farage not attending the count announcement. but not quite.
By:
saddo
When: 16 Aug 26 12:32
Is reddit a lefty platform?
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 12:33
extreme left wing.

it provides plenty of entertainment :)

i might have to create an account
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 16 Aug 26 12:41
“After years of waiting”
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 12:42
That's right. Most people in the real world know at least one person in your second category.

This will be a policy that the legacy media and bbc will be apoplectic about as well as reddit. And will be a vote winner.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 16 Aug 26 12:42
Only formed 2 years ago.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 16 Aug 26 12:43
They did have a policy of stopping the boats with the Brazilian ship HMS Ocean.
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 12:44
The current government won a landslide with no policies. It's clearly the way to go !
By:
Escapee
When: 16 Aug 26 12:48
Like the recent kerfuffle over match of the day man urging higher tax on millionaires like himself, and the
numerous cries of "You can give more to the IRS if you want, you're just virtue signalling".

Do you think the lefties will start a similar kerfuffle with numerous cries, saying to the people of clacton, "You can give up your PiP, you're just Virtue Singalling"?
By:
Stringvest
When: 16 Aug 26 12:52
Bods in wheelchairs on Dinghys .. say no more Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 12:56
yup, in the same way as anyone filthy rich asking if they can pay more tax, should just pay more tax
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 16 Aug 26 13:45
Motability has come along way since the little Blue 3 wheelers

Fella I know has a 30 k Motor , I have no Idea how or why he qualifies
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 16 Aug 26 13:50
Next No balls Nige will scrap charity status from leaper colonies forcing them to charge VAT
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 13:51

Aug 16, 2026 -- 1:45PM, the old nanny ;-) wrote:


Motability has come along way since the little Blue 3 wheelers Fella I know has a 30 k Motor , I have no Idea how or why he qualifies


If they've got a kid, the scam is dla

By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 16 Aug 26 13:57
And people are opposed to the triple Lock , Comical TBH
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 14:41
a reddit special

I first sent off my Fit note 26.01.26, and continually sent them since then. Filled in and sent evidence for the UC50 form by 28.04.26.

How long is the usual heath assessment.

My condition isn't going to improve and I'm employed as a homeworker (16 hours with various adjustments) by HMRC. My income after I pay pension is under the threshold.

My fit notes are 6 monthly. I will contact them on Monday but expect to be told the same. I get both high rate elements of PIP. Plus, I've given shiiit loads of evidence, but sods law, it'll take forever.
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 14:42
I'm assuming they'll be doing checks then in the background (like my psychiatrist etc)
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 16 Aug 26 14:54
Personal Independence Payment (PIP) was introduced in the UK in April 2013.

It's a Tory policy
.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 16 Aug 26 15:02
In fact the entire welfare system as it stands was designed by the Tories under the Welfare Reform Act 2012 and the Welfare Reform and Work Act 2016
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 15:07
he's starting to get it?

who changed it to include 'mental health' ?
By:
Escapee
When: 16 Aug 26 15:10
Accusing the lefties of creating a tory built product is full on "put on a clown costume and slap yourself with rubber chicken" silly
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 15:16
lol

plenty of people are being triggered. apparently it will cost reform votes, so they should be ecstatic
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 15:17
perhaps labour will run on a ticket of even more benefits for the feckless :)
By:
DixieDean60
When: 16 Aug 26 15:26
The more sensible take is that those who are genuinely claiming should not be fearful as they will still be looked after.

The conmen, shysters and layabouts will not.

Undoubtedly Reform may lose the votes of those who will fall foul of this policy, but equally they may gain plenty of votes from taxpayers who are fed up of funding the feckless whilst they graft away.
By:
Escapee
When: 16 Aug 26 15:30

perhaps labour will run on a ticket of even more benefits for the feckless :)


Well, they've been in government 2 years?


Have they given more benefits to the feckless?

I know they put up minimum wage, but you could hardly call that giving more benefits to the feckless unless you were a billionaire.


Have they given more money to the feckless as your nightmares keep telling you they will?

By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 15:32
Changes from April 2026

Increasing the Universal Credit standard allowance above inflation over the four financial years from 2026/27. By 2029/30, the UC standard allowance will be 4.8% higher than it would have been under the normal practice of increasing the standard allowance in line with Consumer Prices Index (CPI) inflation over the period.
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 15:34
In a word, obviously.
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 15:35
28 July 2026

Some parents on benefits will be given up to £4,500 a year Laugh to encourage their children to start apprenticeships, the government has said.

Under plans to encourage young people into work, families will be offered a bursary to replace Universal Credit payments lost by starting jobs Laugh

The payment is expected to benefit an estimated few thousand households, who currently face losing between £17 and £330 a week if their children start apprenticeships Laugh .
By:
Cider
When: 16 Aug 26 15:38
Changes from April 2026

From April 2026, the government removed the two-child limit. Families claiming Universal Credit can now receive the Child Element for every child, not just the first two. This change applies across England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.
By:
Escapee
When: 16 Aug 26 15:48

Excited28 July 2026

Some parents on benefits will be given up to £4,500 a year Laugh to encourage their children to start apprenticeships, the government has said.

Under plans to encourage young people into work, families will be offered a bursary to replace Universal Credit payments lost by starting jobs Laugh

The payment is expected to benefit an estimated few thousand households, who currently face losing between £17 and £330 a week if their children start apprenticeships Laugh .


So the government are topping up an aprentice wages, subsidising a company so it gets a really cheap employee.

Aprentice gets and education leading to a lifetime of better paid work, pays more taxes, government recoups cost.



The people who read the telegraph call this an investment, the people who read the express call the aprentices feckless.


I dunno Cider, it's a chancey bet, may work, may not.
Doesn't seem like you've chosen a prime example of labour giving money to the feckless to me, but I don't read the express.

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