Politics
Mandelson failed vetting – but was given job anyway
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I don't think they are happy, but the factions fear
the other side winning new election, so don't push too hard, yet. At some point something has to happen. Starmer likely sees today confirming his position.. as set out. |
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Mandy has friends in high places.
Who was forcing the hand to sign him up quickly? Starmer a puppet. |
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Porcupine - I didn't mean that the May 7th results will cause Labour MPs to turn on him, as I agree it is widely known Labour will take a hammering, but that they may as well keep in in place until then so he can take the fall for that hammering.
He's already gone and is not going to see out his fall term no matter what, so the May 7th disaster, from a Labour POV, is best done on his watch. No point in turning on him before one of the biggest humiliations in the history of the Labour party when it's just a couple of weeks away. |
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Whoever replaces him isn't going to turn things around either, they will just be less annoying - we need a GE as a matter of urgency to start digging us out of the hole.
There is irreparable damage being done under Starmer's Labour - immigration and the the new 'Super' Chinese Embassy, with it's secret rooms and location next to London's financial district, being two examples of many. |
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We had an election for 5 years
People voted for them, against corrupt tories and rejected racist refuk. Revisit that in 2029 |
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Obviously even if Starmer resigned today, there wouldn't be a new leader in place by the time of the upcoming annihilation. Nobody else is going to take the hit for that, he owns it.
I'd have thought we were already past that point, but at some point surely other people associated with Labour will not be able to bear the abject humiliation any longer. And actually running the country should come into it, not just the Labour party psychodrama. Starmer is evidently incapable, incompetent, and the job is beyond him. |
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He's like Unlucky Alf............oh, bugger.
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Does anybody think this will affect Scottish Labour chances at upcoming elections positively ? because the guy who runs them distanced himself from Starmer recently, be interesting to see.
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To a man and woman, everyone in the Labour party will know that Starmer is gone. To the man in the street electorate though, who have a far lesser knowledge of politics, the optics of Starmer being PM during the May 7th massacre will benefit Labour more than if he is gone before then.
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Streeting waits in the wings, waiting for his Casca
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The most damning thing we learnt today is No.10 had a useless Director of Comms, Matthew Doyle, who they wanted to get rid of so they asked Olly Robbins to find him an Ambassadors job as a consolation prize!
Robbins said he couldn't do that. So Doyle was made a Lord. It later turned out he was mates with a peado and lost the Labour whip. Jobs for the boys |
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I think we are lucky to live in a country where Epsteins friends are castigated, where there's a
sizeable chance that a PM can lose his job because it's not ok to employ and lie on behalf of savile types. Meanwhile, elsewhere, their leader has appointed a cabinet, half of which are known associates and no one bats an eyelid. We are lucky to live in UK. |
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Moves in America to pardon Ghislaine Maxwell.
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Pardon her for keeping her mouth shut?
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What have qualifications or ability got to do with job appointments?
Years back our HR dept recruited a person to work in finance. Previous experience was washing dishes in a hotel.  True story. |
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McSweeney appearing before Thornbury today.
He's giving a lot of "I Can't recall" answers Arms firmly folded, Occasionally touching his face, like a lot of those "Contestants" to on that game show "24 hours in Police Custody" |
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Where is Farage?
He seems to have gone awol over this mandy scandal. I seem to remember he made noises that he was wanted and was best suited for the ambassadorship when Trump got elected. Has he made any comments? |
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Trying to do well in some elections, presumably.
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Media desperately trying to say its a crunch vote , not when you have hundreds of starmer sheep being told what to vote for it isnt
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What is pretty astonishing is that this Irish dweeb was effectively running the country for over a year. Can't recall anything for definite lol.
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His tale about chasing after the alleged phone snatcher
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Law needs changing to stop all party's from using the whip to ensure a vote is won. Should be a free vote on all issues.
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Mps change law, so would need to be whipped...
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Tonight Labour played the FAMILY VOTE
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Any MPs found guilty of voting for personal gain/bribes would be expelled from being an MP for life. Only problem is there'd be very few left to govern.
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It's a tad odd that some people are focusing on the whipping system as undemocratic.
Any new law has to get passed a completely undemocratic House of Lords, a non elected body comprising of the unelected clergy (like Iran), the unelected hereditary lords, the unelected political appointees such as Boris's russian school chum, his unelected 29yo female 'junior advisor', and his cash for questions donor was appointed overruling the HOLAC independent watchdog..... etc etc etc. The place is choc a bloc with these types. The HoL demonstrated it's disregard for democracy just last week by derailing the assisted dying bill which the democratically elected representatives had passed. whipping or HoL, which is more undemocratic? |
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People vote for candidates knowing they will
be whipped. Anybody pretending otherwise is a bit dim or trolling. Refuk have a chief whip, it's 30p Lee, who whipped his Mps when told to do so. |
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They obviously haven't got a scooby do what "Independent" means as a party name on the ballot.
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The whole system corrupt and has been for years. Tories & labour are 2 cheeks of the same ar@e, Liberals and Greens well I wouldnt vote for them any number of brown envelopes. The one thing Reform/Restore do have going for them is theres no form in the book (collectively, not individually) for fooking up the country.Cant see any other alternative to be honest.
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The one thing Reform/Restore do have going for them is theres no form in the book (collectively, not individually) for fooking up the country.
Lol, you were doing so well. |
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Prove me otherwise.
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How many failed Tory MP's (who were running a failfest government for 14 years) are now reform MPs?
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I did say collectively not individually.
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They were collectively tories.
Greens and lib dems have done no damage, yet except lib dems in coalition. Brown envelopes, lol, stuffed with Roubles buying farage and his party colleagues that he lied about not knowing. Who bought his house in Clacton that he lied about buying Has tice paid his dodged tax yet? What about jenricks £40,000 from a foreign donor that is still being investigated in his failed tory leadership bid. What about faragess connections to bannon and russia in the epstein filrs But you were doing so well |
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The one thing Reform/Restore do have going for them is theres no form in the book (collectively, not individually) for fooking up the country.
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Whipping is exactly the same as Family Voting. End of.
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