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Is this the dumbest war of the century?
Is this the dumbest war of the century?
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I’d love any of the soggy old cardboard sign holders to come up with a remedy to all the actual dead at the hands of the IRGC
And if they will kill their own people who disagree with them, maybe, just maybe they arn’t the sort of people you want armed with the ability to do the same to others further afield? Rather than stroking their own conspiracy egos |
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It is pretty funny seeing how forumites suggesting the US admin are being stupid are the same ones that were upset about Hamas being blown up after they bought 40 year old explosive filled pagers from Israel.
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Shrewd_dude, are you saying Pete Hegseth is a smart guy and we should no be laughing at the pickle he has made of this excursion?
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you lot got orgasmic over feeble demented Joe, he could not string a sentence together and was not up to the jawb.
The Dems convention is like a plastic surgery exhibition, old fvkrs that never worked a day and stuffed thar pockets. As for Bill clingon and the truth, watch his lips. The Don (ego and all) is exactly what was needed to get a lot of dirty jawbs done and when he speaks people listen. |
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No I don’t think he’s smart Nobbie but equally he didn’t didn’t get blown up because he bought a 40 year old pager from his enemies.
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dustybin
Date Joined: 29 Dec 08 Add contact | Send message 14 Mar 26 12:28Joined: 29 Dec 08 | Topic/replies: 31,890 | Blogger: dustybin's blog Why are you asking me if you already think you know the answer? The IAEA said they have enriched uranium to 60%, it’s not whether they can create the material, it’s now the time it takes them to work out how to deploy it. The previous direction was to agree they would ultimately achieve a bomb, but it wouldn’t have been possible until those who agreed to it were out of office-somebody else’s problem This of a regime who have threatened numerous countries, tried to assassinate numerous figures and kept up a terrorist funding and training scheme while saying they would destroy America and Israel Now you can come to your half baked ideas, but they have no impact on the outcome so don’t really matter. The reason I asked was to get your myopic opinion stated once again... and so you think that's all it is ? Very one dimensional parroting of TPTB if you ask me and my comments strangely enough seem to have been half baked over the course of the last century and more - yes there's really no evidence or history to back those up at all is there ? /s  Besides they are not the only angle here There are more and nobody has even mentioned them - but we'll talk that another time |
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And in reality, who actually fkin knows ? I don't - you certainly don't
We can only posit and theorize |
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Very one dimensional parroting of TPTB if you ask me
I didn’t Why would I when I’ve read what the IAEA have written and have seen 47 years worth of intent from the IRGC? |
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Why would I when I’ve read what the IAEA have written and have seen 47 years worth of intent from the IRGC?
47 years is a long time Not as long as the 78 years it took Israel to double it's territorial control but still... |
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Because all those Jews that used to be scattered around went home, everywhere else got filled in with everyone else other than Jews
So it stands to reason |
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Came home
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Surprised farage isn't out there in his little boat
He'll turn up to the opening of a wallet. |
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At this point they're gonna have to release the Epstein Files to distract from the war
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Does anybody know any wars that lead their supporters to try and stop others buying avocados in Waitrose because they got whipped so bad after they started their war?
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It doesn't get too much funnier than declaring an enemy oblitoated and a war won and then only a week later have to ask the world for help
 Why isn't Israel prepared to help Donald in his hour of need? |
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Israel busy with another genocide if Turkey is correct.
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Because of Trump & Starmer & Badenoch they already got away with one!
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I hope President Trump can sleep at night. To go into a war conflict against a country in the same region as Iraq, Syria and Libya could be a war too many even for America. This can only be a positive for Russia (focus away from Ukraine) and China (economically and financially).
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In 10 years time China will have rebuilt Iran and be providing them with security in exchange for cheap oil
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How can you start a thread on dumbest war of the century and fail to mention Russia’s endless war with Ukraine or Hamas starting a war with Israel then crying when they get womped back to the 16th century?
Good Q. Putin's war certainly looks dumb compared to how he was expecting it to go. I saw someone saying it was like America invaded Mexico and, after 4 years, were shelling some towns 20 miles from the Texas border. On the other hand though, the conventional wisdom at the start was that Russia would be brought to it's knees by a few months of all out sanctions, but he has proven that Russia is way too resilient for that. He also seems to be stronger within Russia, with all potential threats gone. So while it seems like madness to you or me, Putin may well have no regrets, the dead Russian soldiers will be just statistics to him. I think the Hamas leaders would not be at all surprised by how their war went after October 7th. The Arabs have a very long term view of historical events. They compare Israel to the crusader states: they arrived, they had military superiority and Western support. They defeated the muslims, established their states and fought off counter attacks for 200 years. But eventually the muslims became more united, the Western help stopped coming and the crusaders were overthrown. The Gaza War has significantly reduced Western support for Israel ( in public opinion more than with politicians, but the former will influence the latter long term). The Hamas leaders didn't care about the lives of Palestinians, even their own lives. |
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Russia would be brought to it's knees by a few months of all out sanctions
Yeah, the point is that that has just failed to pass. Countries can have rules on sanctions but capitalist enterprises just get their best lawyers on the case and figure out work-arounds through other countries or shell companies. Can't let thousands of people dying and the erosion of freedom get in the way of profits. As for Hamas, the Israel reaction was the point. |
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Even more reason for the Gazans and the pally****s in the UK to show a whimper of opposition and resistance to Hamas.
Alas they didn’t and things ended up as they did. |
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Taco man is squirming. He's begging the European leaders for assistance to keep the Strait Of Hormuz open.
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The longer this goes on the more it becomes more apparent how dumb it was
The Strait of Hormuz handles 20–30% of global fertilizer exports and 25% of seaborne oil, could trigger a severe global food crisis. A shutdown restricts fertilizer shipments and raises natural gas costs, limiting crucial nitrogen-based fertilizers and threatening lower crop yields, high food prices, and famine-like conditions The missiles used to shoot down drones apparently cost about 100 times more than the drones they are shooting down |
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Not much profit on an Iranian drone
Whereas all of these USA missiles carry a decent margin to makers and dealers. AI says.. Missile Unit Costs Individual missile costs vary significantly depending on their sophistication and intended use: THAAD Interceptor: Approximately $12.7 million per missile. Patriot (PAC-3) Interceptor: Costs range from $3.7 million to $4.1 million per unit. Tomahawk Cruise Missile: Roughly $3.5 million to $4 million each. Arrow 3 System: Between $2.5 million and $4 million per shot. AIM-9X Sidewinder: Approximately $439,000 per missile. Lower-Cost Options: Lockheed Martin recently unveiled a cruise missile priced at $150,000 for high-volume use. Defense Contractor Profits Major U.S. defense firms, including Lockheed Martin, RTX (formerly Raytheon), Northrop Grumman, and Boeing, are seeing increased financial returns: Lockheed Martin: Forecasted 2026 revenue between $77.5 billion and $80 billion, with expected profit per share reaching up to $30.25. RTX: Recently secured a $5 billion missile order and a $1.1 billion contract for AIM-9X missiles. Northrop Grumman: Reaffirmed its commitment to dividends and reported being more profitable than expected due to weapons awards. Stock Performance: Shares in major defense firms jumped following plans to double missile production. Reuters +4 Market and Budget Scale Market Size: The U.S. rocket and missile market was valued at $16.25 billion in 2023 and is projected to grow through 2030. Operational Costs: In recent conflicts, the U.S. has spent an estimated $1.1 billion per day, with roughly $5.7 billion worth of interceptors used in just the first few days of major engagements. Golden Dome Project: A proposed massive missile defense shield estimated to cost $175 billion. Palestine Chronicle +3 |
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CLYDEBANK2920 Mar 26 20:14Joined: 10 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 15,063 | Blogger: CLYDEBANK29's blog
The longer this goes on the more it becomes more apparent how dumb it was C'mon ... Anyone who thinks that play wasn't discussed to death the last 20 years needs their bumps feeling Anyone considered this is what they want ? Energy disruption |
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CL, the sychophants Vance, Kent and Tubbard all seemingly advised against it, though I wouldn't give them too much credit myself, as ability is secondary to pandering in Trump appointments.
Trump will be one of those needing his bumps feeling. Anyone, who thinks Trump factored it in lives in a fantasy world. |
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WW2 was possibly the dumbest. We've wrecked, or given away,
everything they fought and died to keep, in just 80 years. |
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you mean the rise of the right wingers looking to punish ethnic minorities again, yeah?
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Delicious irony from saddo totally devoid of
self awareness as per. |
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the failure to secure or take the strait of hormuz before starting the bombing is a massive mistake, doing so would have been exceedingly difficult but to not do so has left the world at the whim of the irgc.
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I repeat
You must be severely off your rocker to think they had not thought of that Think |
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its amazing luck the wars america enter - have oil
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Jolly now a war strategist
"Failure to secure or take the straight" ...irgc drone warfare easily offset by the advances in tech and capability from Ukraine. From the reports I have read Iran not easily defending it's country let alone the straight of Hormuz. Probably a few hidden surprises in shape of subs and mines ect, but that work requires the specialist ships and equipment, a job for later and at end of day, USA got all the oil it needs and more,in fact a few dollars more on a barrel won't do them any harm. Hopefully the oil situation can open a door for Russian /Ukraine peace, but don't forget the oil supply has held up well with Russia and Iran both spitting the dummy at same time. Think it's the LNG rather than oil that is the concern and again USA got all the gas it needs and more, much more, again price increase a plus. Houthis seem very quiet atm. |
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Don't forget the China/India bound tankers we're bulletproof, perhaps a full closure for operational clear up might be a larf.
Or heaven forbid a houthi missile or Iranian sub/mine finds one by mistake. China not keen on islamists within but happy to trade with the wurstest overseas, same ol same old. |
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Your regular reminder that Iran doesn't need to constantly attack the Straits. It just needs to threaten to and to show that it's capable. It does that and no ship is going through as they are unable to get insurance, never mind the crew to do it.
If it was so easy to just escort ships through safely the yanks would already be doing it and showing everyone else up for being cowards. The fact that they're so unwilling to put their own troops and hardware at risk is a little telling, no? Unfortunately, the way this has panned out so far is that we've now got a far stronger Iran than started. They've shown they can withstand the barrage, including the removal of key personnel, and have shown they have a huge amount of control over the fate of global economies. Any negotiation from now is gonna leave them much more powerful than it should have. Just imagine sitting down and them saying "If just one Israeli rocket hits our territory ever again, we won't fire back, we'll just start taking out ships." Just imagine the pressure then put on Israel to rein it in. Their worst nightmare come true. There's no chance of a public uprising to change the regime as they've quelled any dissent while this has been going on, being more brutal than ever. Their forces are scattered now. More like a guerilla outfit, so incredibly difficult to flatten. We may genuinely be looking at thousands of American and Israeli troops going in and spending years trying to dismantle the Republican Guard, and god knows what that does to how the rest of the world survives in the meantime. |
