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The Straights of Hormuz
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I’ve not followed this dung for a while but I thought yer man was going to sort this out in a day, why did that not happen?
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Trump has stated 55 times that he defeated Iran.
Trump has stated 35 times that Iran is destroyed. Trump has stated 38 times that a deal is imminent. Trump has stated 25 times that the Strait of Hormuz is open. Elect a clown, expect a circus. |
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luxury motorhome and other assets purchased with embezzled SNP funds by former party chief executive Peter Murrell are expected to be sold at police auctions under the Proceeds of Crime Act (POCA). Seized and unclaimed goods in Scotland are typically processed through approved government auctions.
Reckon a good few on heere will be locked in fierce bidding for Murrel Knicker collection. |
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The Iranians are jerking Donald's chain. They know the midterms are coming up.
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This is the nemesis of President Trump and his henchmen. Gone into the war emotively and blindly now trying very hard to wriggle out of it without looking like a pillock and a numpty by mad Putin President Xi of China.
I think this would be his legacy in his 2nd term. Taco man and his henchmen eating humble pies aplenty. |
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Iran saying the US now bombing reservoirs. If true that's a war crime.
I think the cease fire is over too. |
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Trump launched "self defence" strikes against Iran tonight, ceasefire is over.
Are there any Trump supporters in this forum? Are you still loving this war? |
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He appears to have been stood down.
Back to clown school. |
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Trump says deal agreed!!!
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Another one!!!
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Oddly the only things you can believe is what the Iranians say.
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Trump only said a deal was imminent so he could call off his latest strike threat.
The yanks are running out of missiles. |
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Tehran would not cede control of Hormuz in deal with US, Iran state media report
Iran’s official Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) has cautioned against media speculation about a potential memorandum of understanding to end the war, particularly on claims regarding the strait of Hormuz. IRNA reported that Iran will not surrender its control of the strategic waterway and the US will have no role in its future management.Tehran would not cede control of Hormuz in deal with US, Iran state media report Iran’s official Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) has cautioned against media speculation about a potential memorandum of understanding to end the war, particularly on claims regarding the strait of Hormuz. IRNA reported that Iran will not surrender its control of the strategic waterway and the US will have no role in its future management. To no one's surprise the deal is off! |
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The problem for Trump is he's running for ways to present any agreement as a win. The yanks are gonna have to either give billions in re-building money or un-freeze Iranian billions, something Obama did way back when, but they're also demanding control of the Strait and to charge a toll. If they get both those things they end up in a far stronger position than they were going in and can therefore rightly claim they've won. Trump just can't face that but the Iranians are refusing to buckle on it. They've replaced the previous leader with a bunch of military bods who see fighting to the death as honourable and conceding as worse than treachery.
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Iran's red lines; get control of the Straits of Hormuz and keeping their nukes
Trump's red lines; no control of the Straits of Hormuz and no nukes. The Iranians are just going to out-wait the Donald. Midterms are coming. |
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It's not even the mid-terms. Oil reserves are starting to hit the floor now. Some Asian and African countries are sending workers home and are at fairly drastic measures to temper consumption. And the oil isn't just oil etc. It gets used in all kinds of stuff, so the global economy could really be in trouble in so many different ways. The Iranians know this and every single day that passes makes their hand stronger and stronger. Give it another month and they'll be demanding America nukes Israel as part of the deal.
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Lol^
Great news,there seems to be a deal! US giving Iran billions in frozen assets and waive sanctions on its oil exports, meanwhile the Straits goes back to the way it was. (source RTE) |
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Still closed.
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Only one reason why this hasn't reverted to the same deal with now plus 'compo' prior to Feb.
The world stood back in fear from the US 'lobby' and what threats could mean against them. |
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Good news for the world, only one reason this cannot proceed and continue, hopefully won't happen.
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Donald Trump said the strait of Hormuz will reopen on Friday after the initial memorandum of understanding is signed (in Switzerland), and confirmed the US naval blockade on Iranian ports will be lifted.
Under the terms of the deal, the strategic waterway, through which a fifth of the world’s oil and liquid gas usually passes, would be gradually reopened as Iranian forces clear mines during the first month. However, there remains uncertainty about the status of the strait going forward. In an interview with the NY Times on Sunday, Trump claimed the waterway will be “permanently toll free” . But on Iran’s Mehr state news, it was reported that a memorandum of understanding between the governments calls for the reopening of the strait within 30 days under “Iranian arrangements”. How can the Iranians clear the mines when their navy is at the bottom of the sea? It'll be a brave tanker captain who navigates the Strait of Hormuz any time soon. |
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Details are in short supply, and those that are available are opaque, but it seems the 'deal'
Donald has signed, is a blank sheet of paper !? The Iranian's can and will put all their demands on it, and it's already signed. Very bizarre. |
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In the deal if Iran behaves itself they get $350 billion to rebuild their country.
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The first country in the history of the world to get that much when they were defeated 50 times in the one war.
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Wait and see if Iran kick off again PA , it wont be the states it will be other Gulf Countries as well , Saudi have had enough They will side with the USA
In any future Action , Tyrants holding the Gulf to ransom Wont be going on Much longer , I think there maybe a few arms smuggled in over the next few Months Might help with the Uprising Iran have run out of Options and money and friends TBH |
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Don't agree TON,they will only kick off if Israel don't stop what they are doing in Lebanon. bibi is the big loser as he needs this to continue and are trying to sabotage peace.
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Trump has told him to Hold Fire ,perhaps other pressure is needed
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Well you,me and the world are paying for this farce TON, sod that.
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YEP
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Iran closes Strait of Hormuz over Israeli attacks on Lebanon
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Just can't help themselves.Keep dropping bombs,not for a good reason but for their own reason they know they are nearly under the bus.
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Netanyahu wants a forever war with America supplying the weapons and money.
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It's all kicking off again.
 Another "Forever" war |
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A million Iranians shouting Death to Trump must have upset him.
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Were you capo?
They wouldn't have been chanting Slogans such as "Death to Khamenei", "Death to the Dictator" and "Death to the Islamic Republic" as they all got machine gunned. Just a thought. |
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The 60 days of talks might not have being going well.
Trump's MAGA base might be more likely to support endless war to pointless talks. He's not been in a good mood lately. |
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Belgium should have let balogun score 3
Trumpy would be happy, no more war. |
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Trump says it's open.
Iran says it's closed. What do the crews on the burning ships say? |
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Trump says it's open if you pay him 20% of cargo value...
Protection racket in open sight. |
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Trump claims the US will control strait of Hormuz and get paid for it
The US president, Donald Trump, said on Monday that the United States would probably take over the strait of Hormuz and should be reimbursed for controlling the vital waterway. “We’re going to keep the strait, and we’ll probably run it. We’ll become the guardian of the strait. |