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By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 30 Nov 25 21:59
Playground tittle tattle.
By:
irishone
When: 30 Nov 25 22:13
Exactly.... esp in Parliament

....and from a distance it does not do the country any good
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 01 Dec 25 13:52
Why were Starmer and Reeves not made to attend the HOC today to answer questions ?
By:
sageform
When: 01 Dec 25 15:09
You might well ask nanny. Write to the Speaker.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 01 Dec 25 15:17
Starmer desperately looking for an out to keep him and Reeves away from the House , I wonder what could happen ?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 01 Dec 25 15:18
Write to the speaker, lol.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 01 Dec 25 15:37
Chris Mason article on the Beeb site makes it look like a pretty minor issue.  A bit like a trainer hiding ability from the handicapper?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 01 Dec 25 15:48
They are not supposed to give the budget
until the budget.

Speculation from gutter press forced reeves to speak
to reassure markets.

Pretty sure a racehorse trainer would say he's worked ok
but not tell everybody he's a stone well in on handicap.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 01 Dec 25 15:57
I suppose so but in this modern political world where integrity is a fail and lies are accepted currency it all seems like a storm in a tea cup.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 01 Dec 25 16:04
Labour will be quite happy with this storm in a teacup as it will take the limelight of her terrible budget.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 01 Dec 25 16:07
It would be worse, far worse, if things were worse than expected.

But that could happen next year.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 01 Dec 25 16:15
The gutter press made a meal of obr leaking the budget and that
being bad for reeves, but she has no part in their
error releasing details of her budget.

There is a general desperation to make things overly dramatic
in the gutter press to keep the idiots buying the
papers and taking the click bait.

Council elections may cause a problem for starmer, as likely
they are a disaster, and I guess all this chaff around
the budget doesn't help him spin his message.

He needs to get a step ahead, and not remain a step behind
the game. Or else he's toast.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 01 Dec 25 18:00
Frankly, I am stunned at just how poor he is and has been.  He exudes no authority whatsoever as far as I am concerned.
By:
saddo
When: 01 Dec 25 18:05
Talking of being overly dramatic. That would describe Reeves pretending
she needed more than was true from taxpayers, so she could actually give it away on benefits.
By:
irishone
When: 01 Dec 25 18:56
there is a lot going on behind the scenes

Starmer is probrably at the bottom of it
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 01 Dec 25 19:00

Starmer is probrably at the bottom of it


Stop it. The Ukranian rent boys are in jail.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 01 Dec 25 19:51
Ants at a picnic. Govt has a mandate to lead the country to less inequality up to 2029.

Suck it up
By:
irishone
When: 01 Dec 25 21:31
"to less inequality"  ....utter rubbish


When is starmer going to invite poor arsenal fans into his box at the Emirates
By:
sageform
When: 02 Dec 25 12:49
Biggest inequality is between those working for less than £25k a year and the unemployed (or unable to work) who get more than that and pay no tax or NI and don't have the not inconsiderable cost of getting to and from work.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 02 Dec 25 12:59
Reeves did not mislead on challenges facing
UK ahead of Budget, says OBR official


A senior official at the UK's economic forecaster has said he does not believe the chancellor was being misleading when she said the state of the public finances were "very challenging" in the run-up to the Budget.

Prof David Miles from the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) told MPs Rachel Reeves's comments ahead of announcing her tax and spending plans were "not inconsistent" with the situation she faced.



Has David spotted a vacancy....
By:
Escapee
When: 02 Dec 25 13:11
The media are framing the fact that the economy has improved under labour as "outrageous".

P.S.
wages up under labour
FTSE up circa 19% from 8,200 to 9,700 under labour

ooooo it's outrageous, Reeves & Starmer should resignLaugh
By:
The Management
When: 02 Dec 25 13:39
Kemi spending her every waking moment trash-talking the economy (that her party trashed).

Reeves spending her every waking moment saying it's not as bad as it seems and it will improve given time.

It improves slightly - and Kemi wants Reeves to resign for lying. It's like a parallel universe.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 02 Dec 25 16:32
Where's the "growth , growth  and more growth " they wittered on about endlessly ?

That doesn't get a mention anymore.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 02 Dec 25 16:35
According to the analysis by the Centre for Social Justice (CSJ), a working family with three children in the UK would need a gross salary of roughly £71,000 to have the same take-home income as a similar family on combined out-of-work benefits, after the recent changes to the two-child benefit cap.

Come on - Who really thinks that the is right way to structure benefits ?

How is that going to encourage people to work ?

Completely bonkers.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 02 Dec 25 17:09
Shown in such stark terms you have to be right.
By:
irishone
When: 02 Dec 25 17:30
The British electorate has f***** itself again

They have voted in a load of Liars
By:
Escapee
When: 02 Dec 25 17:48
Centre for Social Justice (CSJ) Is just making stuff up.


According to google:

What is 71000 after tax in the UK?

£51,737.40

Calculation details

On a £71,000 salary, your take home pay will be £51,737.40 after tax and National Insurance. This equates to £4,311.45 per month and £994.95 per week. If you work 5 days per week, this is £198.99 per day, or £24.87 per hour at 40 hours per week.


(plus they still keep 50% of their child benefit)


What is the maximum UC + Child Benefit for a family with 3 children?

AI Overview

The maximum monthly Universal Credit (UC) amount for a family with three children, including the standard allowance and child elements, is £2,701.29, assuming both children were born after April 6, 2017. This is calculated as:


Standard monthly allowance: £578.84 (single claimant) or £915.43 (couple)
Child element: £292.81 x 3 (for the three children)
Total = £578.84 + (£292.81 x 3) = £1,457.27 (for a single claimant)
Total = £915.43 + (£292.81 x 3) = £1,854.04 (for a couple)
For child benefit, the maximum monthly amount is £58.30, with £26.05 for the first child and £17.25 for each of the other two.

Important Note: The two-child limit for Universal Credit is being removed from April 2026. After this date, families will be able to claim the child element for all children, regardless of their birth date.


By:
Escapee
When: 02 Dec 25 18:00
Family with 3 children on benefits is equivalent to £71,000 per year is fantasy.

Benefit Cap: The total amount of benefits a family receives may be limited by the Benefit Cap. The cap for couples or single parents with children living in London is £2,110.25 per month.


By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 02 Dec 25 18:25
https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/newsroom/post-budget-research
By:
Escapee
When: 02 Dec 25 19:16
think about it this way JTG

Labour have been in power 18 months
how much have they put benefits up for a family with 3 children?
40k? 30k?
I doubt it's even as much as £10k, probably less than £5k

how much do CSJ say this family with 3 children were getting under the tories 18 months ago?
By:
irishone
When: 02 Dec 25 19:30
SAy the word LIARS and look who turns up ....

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By:
Busyfool
When: 02 Dec 25 22:05
Aside from benefits, which are only going one way and now claimed by a staggering number of people. I dont know the exact breakdown but 9 million of working age are not doing any. Since 2019 1.2 million more have claimed disability benefits. Thats quite a number

its the bollox about growth investment and innovation thats so way out

The previous bodgeit was supposed to do all the necessary groundwork for growth. It didnt. This one has made things worse again

Everyone I know says she has made their life more difficult. One of them ,a small but succesSful publican has now abandoned plans to buy 2 pubs that will probably end up as flats. Constant rises in cost have made it just about viable, he says, from being a good idea. but viable isnt what he wants. His investors wont put the money up

Repeat countrywide and its a calamity

But no tax on bingo. bingo! its the same random number game as all the others. Just shows how illiterate and wrong-headed these idots are

You cant tax your way to growth

Tax thresholds are just delaying the inevitable but its a sneaky way of silently taking money via inflation
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