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Next Conservative Leader market - Farage in it, wtf?
Next Conservative Leader market - Farage in it, wtf?
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Kemi shifted to centre... (ish)
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The clowns are IN government. Even nobby might notice eventually.
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Would only notice if the 14 year run of
Westminster circus was to end. 5 ring masters... Some of them clowning around, when we needed a strongman not a bearded lady. |
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It's difficult to find a strong favourite in this market, frankly no one appeals, most of them have baggage galore and are exposed by the previous administration.
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Its a 280/30pc market with £55 traded ................
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247k traded, 105%/89%
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Sunak to see the year out at 20/1 ish not
the worst bet, although I guess they want new leader for conference. Absence of strong candidate to unify party suggests they might just delay. |
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Unify the party = agree with the majority no nation loons or no deal. The consocialist party is doomed to mediocrity like the illiberal undemocratic party. Bye bye and good riddance.
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They can unify to the left, to the right, or in the middle,
if a strong candidate emerges. Your blinkers only allow you to look right. |
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No, most of the sensible people left or were encouraged to leave, it can only go centre left or lib dim loony left. In fact it might as well join the lib dims as it did in 2010 but on a permanent basis.
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Oh dear, that's a very wrong, and very blinkered outlook.
Is lfc posting for you again? |
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I hope lfc will be back eventually, I doubt his ban is permanent. It's up to him whether or not he wants to request his posting rights be reinstated.
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Braverman, Patel and to a lesser level Badenoch are all fishing in the same pond for votes. Cleverly can't find his fishing gear and only gets wheeled out in desperate situations when no one else will go on TV, he is a dud. Jenrick looks too baby faced and has some serious baggage, particularly that real estate deal which still stinks. Of the main contenders currently, Tugendhat looks the best try. I have some small bets on Barclay and Atkins.
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i haven't looked at the mix of tory mps to see where the strength lies. braverman is likely to be popular with the party members but she may have gone too far down the rabbit hole to get mp support.
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The rump contains a majority of no nation bureaucrat loving consocialists for a proper tory to be elected, I think Mr expletive is right with his choice of Tugendhat or other prominent wets.(Badenoch realises this hence the recent toadying).
My hope is that they will go down this route and that Suella will lead a mass defection to Reform to boost their MP count. Lee Anderson showed the way. |
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The icing on the cake would be that the remaining wets would so resemble the lib dims that they could just as well join them.
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It'll be the new leader's job to bring the party together
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Zero chance that will happen.
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Bad enoch has already taken steps to cover centre
of party, whilst likely retaining her right wing allies,... Marginalising, perhaps, a few others who stick to hard right. |
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Bad Enoch is argumentative and aggressive in interviews, not up to much in debates. Starmer will destroy her at PM questions.
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Oh, I'm not proposing backing her or voting for her, obviously
I won't have a vote. I'm just noting her positioning. |
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Spike Cleverly price coming in a little. Just don't bring your wife/girlfriend to any of his dinner parties.
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Foinavon 11 Jul 24 14:12 I hope lfc will be back eventually What ? you miss a bigoted racist who admitted he tells lies ? Fionavon you are a weirdo ! |
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I hope lfc will be back eventually, I doubt his ban is permanent.
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Espero que lfc vuelva pronto.
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I dont think many others want the bigoted racist back
..particularly the "south irish" |
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'Lay' Ms Bademoch at 3.1. She's too soon for another descendent of an immigrant to be leader. She's also too emotive, fiery and politically inexperienced and naive; she's no glue for her Party - the key ingredient of the next Tory leader.
God helps the UK if Robert Rancid is elected leader. He's as "good" as Mr Williamson the inept, once Defence and Education Secretary. Boths tasks were beyond him. |
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If Badenoch makes it to the members' vote then she wins. The key is whether the MP's can arrange that she never gets that far.
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I don't think the actual process for electing the next Conservative leader has actually been decided yet.
Won't it be down to the 1922 committee and their new leader Bob Blackman? |
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That is correct nobby.
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Blackman told the BBC News Channel that Cameron's backing of religious same-sex marriages was wrong "on principle" and that marriage had to be "between one man and one woman".[21] According to the Harrow Times, he was accused of hypocrisy by a former fellow Brent council colleague who claimed she had an 11-year affair with him whilst he was married.
In 2015, the compliance officer for the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) made a judgement that Blackman had submitted 732 inaccurate mileage claims.[26] According to IPSA he claimed up to 10 miles for a two-mile journey, making him the highest-mileage MP, claiming almost twice the mileage as the 10 next-highest MPs. After three A-levels, he studied maths and physics at the University of Liverpool, where he graduated with a BSc. While at Liverpool, he was president of the students' union.  |
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There is clearly a split in the Conservative party about which direction they should go politically.
They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Starmer has the centre right ground and Farage has the far right. It'll be a very log road back into power. |
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The trouble for the Conservative Party is that half of the potential next leaders were voted out. Thank or blame Reform for that.
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Basically Britain has no fecking talent
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unitedbiscuits
unitedbiscuits13 Jul 24 17:48Joined: 27 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 19,053 | Blogger: unitedbiscuits's blog The trouble for the Conservative Party is that half of the potential next leaders were voted out. Thank or blame Reform for that. Blame the conservative party themselves for reneging on their manifesto promises and doing the exact opposite. A big chunk of their core vote had had enough and either stayed at home or voted for Reform of the Lib dims. |
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I count Starmer's as the fifth Govt trying to make a success of turning their back on their nearest and biggest market. True but with the attraction of the UK to economic migrants we simply can't have free movement of workers. We need to fix that attraction. |
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Lord Cruddas: Being a ‘broad church’ will be Tory ‘death warrant’
The Conservatives will have signed their own “death warrant” if the next party leader focuses on being a “broad church”, Lord Cruddas has said. The Tory donor and former party treasurer wrote in the Conservative Post that “there will be a flight of further conservative support to other parties” without a “fundamental re-setting of conservative values by the Parliamentary Conservative Party”. “Shamefully the conduct of many Conservative MPs on the question of their role in Parliament and the freedom of the individual has been lamentable,” Lord Cruddas said. “These problems will become even more embedded over the next five years under Labour. “Having a new Conservative Party leader who just fudges the issues and problems by hiding behind the banal statement of being a broad church would not just be a disgrace but a death warrant for the Conservative Party.” |
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Lord Houchen: Sunak replacement likely to be elected in October
Ben Houchen warned against a lengthy Tory leadership battle as he suggested the race to replace Rishi Sunak will conclude in October. The Tory Mayor of Tees Valley said the Tories needed to settle on a “Goldilocks” timetable for choosing a new leader - not too long and not too short. He said that it is possible to have “too much bloodletting” and suggested airing “dirty laundry” in public for too long would be damaging to the Conservative Party. Lord Houchen told the BBC: “I don’t think it should be particularly long… what I am hearing within the Conservative Party is a natural timeline should probably be at some point in October, with the conference playing a significant role in a hustings or in that leadership debate to make sure that members can have a full and fulsome involvement in that.” He added: “If you go too long you also get to a point which is a very purely Conservative politics one which is you can have too much bloodletting and you can have too much dirty laundry aired out in public. “I think there is a Goldilocks thing, somewhere happy in the middle and I think most people are coalescing around an October date for the announcement of a new leader.” |
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Tom Tugendhat apparently going to be running. He has been sounding out support from MPs and is confident he will be in the contest with declaration expected within the next fortnight. Has to have a big chance as a centrist with little visible serious opposition for that sector of support.
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