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SirNorbertClarke
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Rishi Sunak has vowed to bring back National Service for 18-year-olds to create a “renewed sense of pride in our country” in his first major policy announcement of the election campaign

Is he insane?
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Report irishone May 26, 2024 12:25 PM BST
Report SirNorbertClarke May 26, 2024 12:29 PM BST
lfc = Literally Full of Crap
Report irishone May 26, 2024 12:35 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Charlie May 26, 2024 12:45 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 12:52 PM BST
Which tory donor is expecting to get the contract
to house 700,000 18 year olds

Which otter tory donor is expecting to get the contract
to supply 1,000,000 convict err conspription uniforms

Michelle Mone still not in jail, might be interested
Report yak hunt May 26, 2024 12:57 PM BST
Vote tory! Send your son to be killed!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 12:58 PM BST
Or daughter
Report Dr Crippen May 26, 2024 1:01 PM BST
It would be a start to send them to work.
Report yak hunt May 26, 2024 1:02 PM BST
Or both
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 1:10 PM BST
How can they work if they've been killed in Sunak's army...
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 1:15 PM BST
Who do you think you are kidding Mr Sunak
Making kids all use a gun?
We all can see this is just your silly game
National service is coming up again.
So few votes will you be winning Mr Sunak
Britain wants to see you gone!

Twitter
Report PorcupineorPineapple May 26, 2024 1:24 PM BST
Everyone: “My mortgage has gone up by £400 a month, my energy by £300, our household income by £0, olive oil is £8 a bottle, and if you drink the tap water south of Leeds, you’ll **** yourself to death.”

Rishi Sunak: “I WILL TRAIN YOUR ADULT OFFSPRING IN THE ART OF WAR.”
Report MALAY May 26, 2024 1:28 PM BST
Foinavon 26 May 24 10:44 
One of the neighbours' kids was a couple of years older than me and was called up. He was posted to Aden. He said it was a good experience, did things he would not normally have the opportunity to do.

You must be a fair age Foinavon, I knew somebody who served in Aden, had a great photograph book of his time. Enjoyed it too.

I gave it to an antique dealer, it wasn't worth anything but he liked it in his shop for people to browse.
Report yak hunt May 26, 2024 1:36 PM BST
Hold on a minute, if they refuse to serve in the armed forces or help in the community they will be penalised by....being forced to do community service?
Report MALAY May 26, 2024 1:39 PM BST
is there a problem with youth unemployment in uk, ?if so would they not be better bringing back YOP scheme as long as it wasnt abused by some businesses, chance of career, apprenticeship ?
Report MALAY May 26, 2024 1:41 PM BST
maybe tories don't remember YOP scheme, doubt anybody from eton was on it.
Report leif May 26, 2024 1:46 PM BST
For and Against National Service | Yes, Prime Minister | Comedy Greats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgjEjJkZks
Report Dr Crippen May 26, 2024 1:52 PM BST
is there a problem with youth unemployment in uk

There's a problem with going to work at all in the UK.

The country's full of gobsh!te idle lefties.
Report Early Morning Riser May 26, 2024 1:53 PM BST
YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU. We will be at war soon, we need the young trained up to fight when needed. Makes sense really.
Report Dr Crippen May 26, 2024 1:57 PM BST
Well said, EMR.
Report elisjohn May 26, 2024 1:58 PM BST
most 18 year olds are already on anxiety  , ptsd   and  on pip
Report MALAY May 26, 2024 1:58 PM BST
Dr Crippen 26 May 24 13:52 
is there a problem with youth unemployment in uk

There's a problem with going to work at all in the UK.

The country's full of gobsh!te idle lefties.

Bit of a generalisation Dr surely, ffs, so lefties are idle, rightos are hard workers, cmon Dr, cop on to yourself.
Report yak hunt May 26, 2024 2:03 PM BST

May 26, 2024 -- 1:58PM, elisjohn wrote:


most 18 year olds are already on anxiety

Report yak hunt May 26, 2024 2:04 PM BST
Total nonsense
Report Escapee May 26, 2024 2:09 PM BST

The country's full of gobsh!te idle lefties.


I always thought you probably didn't live in UK coz you seem to have zero idea about the British.


Our country is full of people who voted for lower taxes, brexit, strong and stable government.
We voted to take back control, to stop the boats, to reverse mass immigration.
We voted for affordable housing, low inflation, a chance to get an education and make a comfortable life.
We voted for crime free streets, we voted for a thriving economy, we voted for a GREAT Britain.

and now you think all those things are left wing.

F.U.

Report lfc1971 May 26, 2024 2:19 PM BST
Doc C is correct -Leftists generally tend to be unsound
in mind and body -
Those on the right/ centre right know it takes discipline and determination to get anything good done
Report SirNorbertClarke May 26, 2024 2:25 PM BST
Not signed up yet lfc?
Report dambuster May 26, 2024 2:32 PM BST
Sunak and Starmer will make promises they will never keep just to get into power.
They will lie and lie.
They have NO IDEA what its like to struggle to pay bills
Report casemoney May 26, 2024 2:32 PM BST
6 months Training and off to Help Vlod , send billions also
Report lfc1971 May 26, 2024 2:36 PM BST
Gen Z police recruits don’t want to work overtime or weekends
and rotas should take into account their ‘ work life balance ‘ ! Lazy little layabouts
probably just after dossing in uni don’t know what work is !
Report Early Morning Riser May 26, 2024 2:39 PM BST
Youth of today song.
Private Jones came in one night
Full of cheer and very bright
He'd been out all day upon the sniff
He bumped into Sergeant Smith.
Put his arms around his neck
And in his ear he whispered tenderly....

Kiss me goodnight, Sergeant-Major
Tuck me in my little wooden bed
We all love you, Sergeant-Major,
When we hear you bawling, "Show a leg!"

Don't forget to wake me in the morning
And bring me 'round a nice can of red bull.
Kiss me goodnight Sergeant-Major
Sergeant-Major, be a mother to me.

Kiss me goodnight, Sergeant-Major
Tuck me in my little wooden bed
We all love you, Sergeant-Major
Even when your neck grows rather red.

Don't forget to wake me in the morning
And bring me 'round a nice can of red bull
Kiss me goodnight, Sergeant-Major
Sergeant-Major, be a mother to me.
Report lfc1971 May 26, 2024 2:42 PM BST
My sister took one on at her business a few months ago
I said to her think thats a mistake ,, after the first week or so
asked how he was getting on and she said fine ,,
Was speaking to her a week ago and asked about him again
She said we had to let him go..
and he was a relative which made it trickier! Which partly the reason
I warned against it at the start
Report Ronaldmcdonald May 26, 2024 2:51 PM BST
The people who complain about their mortgage going up £400 are usually the same cretins who demanded lockdowns and furlough pay during the pandemic.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 3:00 PM BST
Bizarrely nowt to do with national service

An escape for timber...
Report leif May 26, 2024 3:07 PM BST
Penny Moredaunting was advocating a two week civic experience for 16 year olds late last year.
Chatam House bollix
Report Early Morning Riser May 26, 2024 3:28 PM BST
As of 1 January 2024, the British Army comprises 75,166 regular full-time personnel, 4,062 Gurkhas, 26,244 volunteer reserve personnel and 4,557 "other personnel", for a total of 110,029.  This is NOT enough even to defend the Falklands again.
Report leif May 26, 2024 3:50 PM BST
Prolly need 18 year olds as drone operators given their adepness pressing buttons.
Report SirNorbertClarke May 26, 2024 3:50 PM BST
Drones have changed future warfare
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 4:03 PM BST
https://www.ft.com/content/56c7a24f-06b7-472a-921c-248b58cfd1b2

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Report Dr Crippen May 26, 2024 4:12 PM BST
Bit of a generalisation Dr surely, ffs, so lefties are idle, rightos are hard workers,

Absolutely MAYLA, spot on.

And I’ve got my eye on you as well.
Report Foinavon May 26, 2024 4:30 PM BST
I am getting on a bit Malay, older than Trump but younger than Biden. None the worse for it.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 4:33 PM BST
The announcement came two days after defence minister Dr Andrew Murrison told the Commons the government has "no plans" to reintroduce National Service and doing so would "damage morale, recruitment and retention and would consume professional military and naval resources".
Report impossible123 May 26, 2024 4:45 PM BST
Excellent idea. To make up for some of the time wasted spend on a pub crawl at weekends costing taxpayers money. It is also to instil respect and discipline, and learn to appreciate freedom and security a little more; doing something useful and constructive is never a bad thing.

Bring it on!
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk May 26, 2024 4:53 PM BST
The Tories don't want to win. It seems obvious. Country is fecked, leave it to Labour to sort out and make a pig's ear of it. Tories back in 5 years.
Report MALAY May 26, 2024 4:55 PM BST
You are doing ok then foinavon, future good health.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 4:55 PM BST
Nobody would go to jail for refusing to comply with National Service under a Conservative government, the home secretary has said.
Report yak hunt May 26, 2024 5:01 PM BST

May 26, 2024 -- 4:55PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:


Nobody would go to jail for refusing to comply with National Service under a Conservative government, the home secretary has said.


No space for them.

Report Foinavon May 26, 2024 5:07 PM BST
Thank you Malay, much appreciated. I liked the anecdote btw.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 5:29 PM BST
Steve Baker, the MP for Wycombe, previously was a member of the RAF.

Among his likes are one post calling the idea of National Service "totally moronic", another highlighting Downing Street previously denying such plans existing, and one about a "devastating takedown" of National Service last week by a defence minister
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 5:45 PM BST
https://x.com/carryonkeith/status/1794649417246781805?s=19

..
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 26, 2024 10:15 PM BST
What a day for Kobbie Mainoo. Scores the winner in the #FACup Final then finds out he’ll be doing national service next season.

Twitter
Report irishone May 27, 2024 7:20 AM BST
There you again insulting the fine people of Wexford, Cork etc

Why are you so racist LFC ?
Report cryoftruth May 27, 2024 7:36 AM BST
Rather than wasting billions on conscription, he would be better to promise to bring back the National Health Service.
After all the greedy Hooray Henries have spent 14 years wrecking it.
Report cryoftruth May 27, 2024 7:37 AM BST
Why are you so racist LFC ?

Why do bears poop in the woods?
Report lfc1971 May 27, 2024 8:56 AM BST
Whilst you are part of the U.K. snp
you will be ordered to do  National Service .. no buts

And if north Britain breaks away be prepared for England
to invade if you ever step out of line , thankyou
Report truehoncho May 27, 2024 9:12 AM BST
I suppose for the rich and establishment families it's a good opportunity to get their public school kids into the officers bar and teach the working class ranks how to take orders for the rest of their lives in British society.
Report lfc1971 May 27, 2024 9:17 AM BST
The public schools and officers served
this country well - and have nothing to learn regarding duty and sacrifice from
any section of society
Report irishone May 27, 2024 9:21 AM BST
Forum Search Showing 1 - 15 of 153 total posts for "Lfc Racism"

153 posts linking Lfc with Racism .....there's a shock
Report irishone May 27, 2024 9:23 AM BST
Forum Search Showing 1 - 15 of 325 total posts for "Lfc racist"

325 posts linking Lfc with the term "Racist"

They cant all be wrong can they ?
Report truehoncho May 27, 2024 9:23 AM BST
Lol, lfc that's a stretch. Still let's get those working class kids who's industry and job prospect we've demolished marching up and down in straight lines and putting nice creases in their trousers. That'll sort them out.
Report Whisperingdeath May 27, 2024 9:57 AM BST
**** gif the Corporal
Report unitedbiscuits May 27, 2024 1:21 PM BST
We have already stood witness to the general lowering of standards in this country over the last few years. The cheerful East European waitress replaced by the sullen British model. That is the problem with employing people who couldn't recite the alphabet without making three mistakes..

Transfer by National Service people who couldn't find the couch in your living room to the armed forces and what do you get?

Basically the Israeli Defence Force. And nobody wants that, they're hopeless.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2024 4:42 PM BST
Parents to be fined if kids miss tory conscription

Lol
Report lapsy pa May 27, 2024 4:44 PM BST
Bring back the birch and be done with it.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2024 9:13 PM BST
Exclusive: Rishi Sunak is considering requiring future applicants for public sector jobs to have completed National Service

It’s one of the enforcement options that would go to the Royal Commission for consideration if he gets to enact the policy
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2024 9:15 PM BST
Of course migrants wouldn't have to do national service

Just brits...
Report Racingqueen May 27, 2024 9:18 PM BST
This reminds me of this clip from BBC QT : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWbwIwAhsYw

LOL The Torys/Labour love enticing young morons into the armed forces. When the idiots come home with their legs and arms missing, its seems the Torys/Labour don't want to know LOL

Look at the clown at the end. Forget about armed forces, get a big red nose some white make up and you can join the circus....

Circus/British armed forces....Same thing I suppose.
Report SirNorbertClarke May 27, 2024 9:34 PM BST
Why not just make 100 hours of charity work a previso of taking any A Levels
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2024 9:51 PM BST
The point of volunteer work is that it's done by volunteers.

It's nice to give something back, but I was too
busy enjoying myself in my youth.
Report SirNorbertClarke May 27, 2024 10:02 PM BST
To be born in the UK is like winning the lottery. There is no reason why we shouldn't ask kids to do some charity work. Make them learn about kindness and helping those less fortunate than themselves.
Report Racingqueen May 27, 2024 10:04 PM BST
To be born in the UK is like winning the lottery.

and the jackpot prize is universal credit Laugh
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2024 10:06 PM BST
They can do charity work now.

As can you and I.

It should be voluntary, and it should be to suit
both parties, the charity and the volunteer.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2024 10:11 PM BST
When I volunteered at Durham cathedral I had to do
numerous training courses, most of which I could
have run for them at no cost.

They have hundreds of volunteers, all needing induction
into the system, and I'm guessing they pais top
dollar to get us inducted to fit in with modern
requirements.

Not much point if volunteer isn't interested in helping out.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2024 10:11 PM BST
Paid top dollar
Report SirNorbertClarke May 27, 2024 10:43 PM BST
Just make a single CBT package for any charity based H&S.
Report Whisperingdeath May 27, 2024 11:08 PM BST
Why should kids do charity work?

What would our generatio say, the one that has fceked things up if we were told every weekend for a year we would have to do charitable work……. The second word would be off!
Report Racingqueen May 27, 2024 11:25 PM BST
This is the UK economy. Even in big corporations they have youngsters working for free ffs
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2024 11:29 PM BST
Kids want to be paid, to earn cash to spend.

Surely charity work interferes with that.


It's why so many can do charity or other volunteer
work when they are older. Self sufficient and time
rich.
Report lfc1971 May 27, 2024 11:31 PM BST
Starmer doesn’t seem to want to do anything
that might take a bit of effort or means he’s
going to have to exert himself does he ?
Report SirNorbertClarke May 27, 2024 11:37 PM BST
Kids need to learn to be good and functional members of society. A society that gifts them so much. Free healthcare, free education, rights, law and order. Doing a little charity work should be party of their education.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2024 11:44 PM BST
Yeah, kids in families up to necks in debt, prevented from
earning because they are doing charity work.

There are other ways they can learn to be good citizens.

Likely they are better citizens in a more balanced
society than we currently have.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 27, 2024 11:46 PM BST
Starmer wants a better society than we have
ended up in after 14 years of tory filling pockets
of themselves and donors,
and austerity for the people
Report SirNorbertClarke May 27, 2024 11:59 PM BST
**** me.

People from all over the world risking their lives to get to the UK but somehow asking kids born here to do a few weeks of charity work....
Report Solmyr May 28, 2024 1:03 AM BST

May 27, 2024 -- 11:37PM, SirNorbertClarke wrote:


Kids need to learn to be good and functional members of society. A society that gifts them so much. Free healthcare, free education, rights, law and order. Doing a little charity work should be party of their education.


This has been mentioned a few times, but no. When you say "gifted" you mean the majority will pay ever rising taxes for the best part of their next 50 years. If the state does not provide healthcare, education, law and order, pension then you don't pay tax. Those 18yo as collective will pay (over their lifetimes ) a massive multiple on what they've received in education and healthcare. Basing it on history, it will be enough to cover illegal wars abroad, billions on friends for unusable apps and equipment etc, and pay the interest on previous generations' borrowing.

It's a bit like getting trained when you start a new job. They don't do it so they can gift you education. They do it so you can make them more money over time.

Report yak hunt May 28, 2024 7:51 AM BST
Why don't we ask everyone on Universal Credit to do voluntary charity work if they wish to be paid their benefits? Currently, if you are on Universal Credit and you wish to do charity work, it doesn't count as far as Work and Pensions are concerned.
Report Whisperingdeath May 28, 2024 11:35 AM BST
Why are we paying people to work two days a week while people who work full time are struggling to pay mortgage or rent or buy their kids clothes?

Another thing shirley we all have in common is to cut down on scroungers and cut back on waste.
Report SirNorbertClarke May 28, 2024 11:40 AM BST
The scroungers hide behind health issues.

All sick pay needs to be time limited and there need to be professional panels accessing people's health not overworked GPs.
Report Racingqueen May 28, 2024 11:42 AM BST
Charity work LOL

All these charities are scams ffs.

^ Tory voters using all 3 of their brains cells above LaughLaughLaughLaugh

Typical Torys.....they want you to work for free. Slavery is a Tory policy now.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 28, 2024 11:48 AM BST
How many experts to we need to recruit and pay for
to manage the 2million odd claiming sick pay?

Where will they come from?

Clearly some folk are gaming the system but
will the savings be cost effective?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 28, 2024 11:48 AM BST
Do we need
Report SirNorbertClarke May 28, 2024 11:54 AM BST
If you don't have effective checks and balances on FREE MONEY then expect that system to be massively abused.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 28, 2024 11:58 AM BST
Of course, but why is it not already effectively checked
and operated within reasonable bounds?
Report SirNorbertClarke May 28, 2024 12:01 PM BST
We all know when it comes to the public purse this government has been woefully incompetent.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 29, 2024 1:58 PM BST
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/national-service-conscription-army-navy-raf-teenagers-b2552740.html

..

National service would only be a hindrance to our already depleted Armed Forces
Rather than enhancing our defence capability, Rishi Sunak’s plan to conscript untrained youngsters would only reduce it further, says Admiral Lord West
Report lfc1971 May 30, 2024 8:10 PM BST
Khhh so tedious and unoriginal from noblets ..
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 7, 2024 10:59 AM BST
It’s a bit unrealistic to expect teenagers
to do a year of national service when today
Sunak couldn’t do a full day of it.
Report yak hunt June 7, 2024 11:52 AM BST
Very fair and relevant point.
Report yak hunt June 7, 2024 12:00 PM BST
Sunak has made some howlers but this latest one has to be right up there as one of the worst, if not the worst. If he wishes to turn off the majority of the traditional white, elderly Conservative voters, he is going about it the right way.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 7, 2024 12:03 PM BST
He's having a car crash on sky right now
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- June 7, 2024 12:05 PM BST
People should judge me by my actions....

Whilst apologising and parroting bollox.
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