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Oceangate Expeditions

The company, which has not commented on the reports, charges guests $250,000 (£195,270) for a place on its 8-day expedition to see the wreck.

Some things are better left alone IMO

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By:
peckerdunne
When: 19 Jun 23 16:17
Did the Tories take it ?
By:
casemoney
When: 19 Jun 23 16:21
Would imagine some fairly Rich People on Board Pecker , Maybe tory Types or Woke filth types ,250 k a pop

Hows your Man LEO TRAVOLTA , still out Kissing rings at Discos ?
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Jun 23 18:03
250k to go down deep into the ocean to look at a broken up lump of metal

Why not go and observe nature that far down?

Instead of a ship that sank 110 years ago ffs
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jun 23 19:01
200k a pop.

Let's hope they can rescue them, could be another
bookand film in it.
By:
mesmerised
When: 19 Jun 23 19:34
tourists last went down there in 2012 for for about 50 grand, why does it suddenly cost an extra 200k.

The whole Titanic thing is a bit of con, a big boat that sank, that's all it is, immortalised and glamoursied by films and history anorak's, if it were a ship such as Doña Paz, where far more people died, travelling from two pauper countries such as Phillipines to Laos rather than the UK to the US, then it'd barely have registered a flicker of interest a decade later let alone 100+ years, reminds me of the Mona Lisa, another con who's notoriety and popularity has grown arms and legs over the years after the publicity surrounding it's theft, it wasn't even the most famous painting in the gallery when it was stolen, yet it was on return and now the world over, it's a boring painting and the ambiguity over the sex of the sitter even more boring, has anyone been to the the Louvre, very disappointing experience, you've got a room packed full of people who are all to a man, holding up their camera phone pointing it a very small, deteriorating painting from a distance. Those with vested interest have a done a great job in perpetuating it's mythical status, just like the Titanic, Kind Regards.
By:
Foinavon
When: 19 Jun 23 19:38
A British billionaire is mentioned as a passenger. Just speculating but that sounds like the sort of thing Branson would do.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jun 23 19:57
No camera phones when I went to louvre.

Michaelangelo is a very interesting guy,
and well worth seeing his work. Good to
see Mona Lisa alongside Jack Grealish last
week, lol.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jun 23 19:59
https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1669642101104037890?s=20

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By:
Cider
When: 19 Jun 23 20:00
Obviously there is more 'mystique' around a ship built in Britain, with British passengers, that was thought to be unsinkable, the biggest in the world, hitting an iceberg and lost on its maiden journey. There are several other layers to it, such as the class system at the time. It was a tragedy of course, but the story lends itself to story telling, it wasn't just a boat that sank, with lots of people lost at sea.

A contra to that is I had only just recently learned of the R101 disaster. The Hindenburg on the other hand, I've been aware of for as long as I can remember. And a film was made out of the Hindenberg story.
By:
Cider
When: 19 Jun 23 20:06
R101 is actually a good story too, that has the material for a film. Perhaps it hasn't made it due to the socialist one failing, leading to such tragedy.
By:
mesmerised
When: 19 Jun 23 20:11
it's interesting for 5 minutes, it's only embedded in people's minds today because of the sheer amount of effort in keeping it there.
By:
Cider
When: 19 Jun 23 20:15
It's more interesting than a random boat sinking, full of regular people. It spawned the highest grossing movie of all time, at the time, if memory serves.
By:
mesmerised
When: 19 Jun 23 20:17
exactly, immortalised and glamourised by Hollywood as said
By:
Cider
When: 19 Jun 23 20:18
because it is an interesting story!
By:
Foinavon
When: 19 Jun 23 20:19
I saw the Mona Lisa about 50 years ago and was underwhelmed, to say the least. There is much more interesting stuff in that museum and if you go up to the first or second floor you can browse in tranquility to your heart's content as the crowds with their cameras are queueing downstairs.
By:
mesmerised
When: 19 Jun 23 20:26
It seems incredible to us today that anyone could believe that 70,000 tons of steel could be unsinkable, and specifically the Titanic unsinkable, but that was the conventional wisdom of 1912 belief. The information on this page will seek to look at some of the reasons why people at the time had that belief.

The shipbuilders Harland and Wolff insist that the Titanic was never advertised as an unsinkable ship. They claim that the ‘unsinkable’ myth was the result of people’s interpretations of articles in the Irish News and the Shipbuilder magazine. They also claim that the myth grew after the disaster.

Yet, when the New York office of the White Star Line was informed that Titanic was in trouble, White Star Line Vice President P.A.S. Franklin announced ” We place absolute confidence in the Titanic. We believe the boat is unsinkable.” By the time Franklin spoke those words Titanic was at the bottom of the ocean. It would seem that the White Star Line President was also influenced by the ‘myth’
By:
Cider
When: 19 Jun 23 20:34
One of the things I recall lucidly from way back in my school years was being taught about the Titanic. The teacher concentrated on the survival rates between the defined classes. We were encouraged to think about things ourselves back then, with a few pointers I guess. Debating why the people on board had very different outcomes.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jun 23 20:35
Richard Williams survived the sinking of Titanic and
went on to win Olympic gold at 1924 Olympics.

In mixed doubles tennis. His partner, Hazel wightman
has a cup named after her.

He won us open singles twice and was semi finalist
at wimbledon

He nearly lost his legs to exposure to cold water.

He's only survivor of titanic to win Olympic gold.
By:
Cider
When: 19 Jun 23 20:37
"Not even God himself could sink this ship."
-- Employee of the White Star Line, at the
launch of the Titanic, May 31, 1911

When the British ship Titanic steamed out of Southampton bound for New York on April 10, 1912, it was the largest and most sumptuous luxury liner that had ever sailed. It was a monument to the promise of technology and to Victorian elegance, magnificently appointed with oriental carpets and crystal chandeliers. It was thought to be unsinkable.

Confidence was so high that the owners and builders rejected plans calling for as many as 64 lifeboats. Although the number of lifeboats on the Titanic (20) exceeded government standards, the boats would only accommodate about half of the 2,228 people aboard. In one of history's great ironies, the Titanic sank on its maiden voyage, after colliding with an iceberg off the banks of Newfoundland. More than 1,500 people died in the accident
By:
Charlie
When: 19 Jun 23 20:46
A pretty horrible thread where posts are all but wishing the people well.
By:
Cider
When: 19 Jun 23 20:48
Like yours ?
By:
Cider
When: 19 Jun 23 20:50
Heap of horse sh!t from you anyway (as per), anyone undertaking this 'trip' was inherently putting themselves in serious jeopardy. Faux sympathy is far worse.
By:
mesmerised
When: 19 Jun 23 20:55
a thought process in the early 1900's, before TV and radio and not long after the first car was built, they also believed in Eugenics in the early 1900's, to build a stronger society, technology and science has come a long way since. What is interesting however is that tabloidy, sensationalist headlines such as Not Even God Can Sink This Ship, existed 120 odd years ago. The point being is that if Titanic stories were never reported, they'd be limited interest, the sums of money people are paying to go and visit a watery grave is a reflection of the manufactured hysteria over a boat sinking. Same with the boring balding ginger ponce, Price Harry, who really cares about what he's doing, saying, sh@gging or going, but provide wall to wall coverage as the media does and it seems like everyone's on the edge of their seats waiting for the latest. The media simply controls what people's interests are or seem to be.
By:
Cider
When: 19 Jun 23 21:03
mes, I get that you don't find the story compelling, but you must surely be able to see why many people do. And it's not because they made a blockbuster movie out of it. They produced a movie telling the story, with a huge budget as they were sure that it would sell. They were sure that it would sell as it's a story that commands global interest.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jun 23 21:07
And titanic sub rescue will sell papers.

Round and round we go.


No Internet, nor camera phones back then.

Possibly a few cameras and diaries sunk with ship.



Seemingly Elon musks starling was supplying coms to sub.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jun 23 21:07
Star link

Bludy phone.
By:
mesmerised
When: 19 Jun 23 21:35
it's a solved story with practically nothing left to uncover and one told many times so it's surprising it still garners such interest, I find unexplained stories more interesting, actual factual mysteries like the Mary Celeste, Lord Lucan, how they built the pyramids etc, also don't know what Charlie is piping up about, looks like a pretty civil debate til he chimed in with that nonsense, Kind Regards.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Jun 23 21:39
There's far more interesting sinkings than the Titanic but it's their playbook, their big one that gained so much traction

In fact it wasn't even a well built ship ffs, it was so flawed design wise and it was a horrible looking linear as well. So bland on the outside and those coal chimneys were a fooking eyesore. To this day how they got a blockbuster movie out of it beggers belief, even my grandma was miffed by the wanting of the VHS tape.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Jun 23 21:43
I mean the compartment design Laugh even a kid would question that design

Water tight it wasn't

But it seems to be a big thing, and I think the media want it in the public eye for reason we'll soon find out why
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Jun 23 21:44
And even now I have to ask (again)

Why didn't they switch the engine off, reverse the propellers and just hit it head first? By the time they'd hit it it wouldn't have been doing more that 5mph...
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Jun 23 21:46
Also... Why weren't there tyres on the front to give it some protection to the head ons?

Cheap option and the thing might have looked more spruced up and nicer on the eye
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jun 23 21:47
Still not 100% solved, as the rumours
were that the steel might have been
substandard. Steel in the rivets, that is.

There's a few stories from press that shook
the world because of newspaper coverage.

We forget, sometimes how hooked up society
is to press, and in days when news was delayed
and covered by press, how engrossed society
became. Then stories are passed down through
the generations.

Shackleton, Scott, Hillary, livingstone I presume
all gained mega stardom because of the power
of the press.


Then tv brought us shooting of jfk. And everybody
remembered where they were when they heard.

Man on the moon

Denis Taylor beats Steve Davis....
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jun 23 21:50
Advertising works

Be it the guy in the church, the celeb selling beer,
the newspaper selling news, or the crackpot selling
crackpot diets to halfwits.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 Jun 23 21:51
Newspapers, pathé news, tv, radio, Internet...
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Jun 23 21:51
It's obvious that it was deliberately sunk

You don't just run into a massive block of ice in late April with a ship doing 10mph and not be able to stop before to cu nt it

The way they allegedly tried to side around it was hilarious, who was advising that the Spanish ?
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Jun 23 21:53
The whole story makes little sense

The crows nest couldn't see it until it was to late is another lie, oh wait they were looking at Jack and Rose snogging my bad..
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Jun 23 21:55
And why did Cal not get on a lifeboat?

That story always baffled me
By:
xmoneyx
When: 19 Jun 23 21:58
did it hit a iceburg
By:
irishone
When: 19 Jun 23 22:02
you wait until one of these space tourist rockets **** up
billionaires dead
stock market collapse
Insurance brokers go bust
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