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Snackbar Punter in French Park
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Google is your friend. Hint, if lawyers are using that technique, they aren't going to admit it publicly.
Are you trying to claim that illegal boat people and illegal people in the country already don't lie to use any technique possible to try and resist deportation ? |
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It's quite weird anyway how the media appeared to be publicly declaring what religion this animal is meant to be following, within hours of his butchery. The point I'm making here is that anyone can 'join' any religion, it doesn't mean that is what they genuinely believe. My Dad got baptised, but only as my Mum wanted a church marriage, full white wedding etc. He lied his way through it until the wedding and then never saw the inside of a church again.
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I wrote about this on here before, I have first hand experience of people reporting to me that were in this country as 'students'. They weren't students, they were tamil tigers, sharing a big house and sending all of the money they earned over expenses back home to support their side in the civil war. As it happened, they were lovely people, lovely to me anyway, hard grafters and I was not responsible for authorising or verifying their right to work.
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Sir David Amess: MP murder suspect held under Terrorism Act
Published 17 October 2021 The man arrested by police following the killing of the MP Sir David Amess has been named as Ali Harbi Ali. The 25-year-old is being held under the Terrorism Act and officers have until Friday to question him. Whitehall officials confirmed the man's name to the BBC, and said he was a British man of Somali heritage. The BBC understands Mr Ali was referred to the counter-terrorist Prevent scheme some years ago, but was never a formal subject of interest to MI5. It also understands that his father, Harbi Ali Kullane, who was previously an adviser to Somalia's prime minister, has been visited by police who have taken his phone for analysis. Sir David Amess murder: Ali Harbi Ali given whole-life sentence Published 13 April 2022 IS fanatic Ali Harbi Ali has been given a whole-life sentence for murdering Sir David Amess MP. Ali stabbed the Conservative MP for Southend West more than 20 times after tricking his way into a constituency surgery in Essex last year. |
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Of course, when this atrocity happened, all the establishment wanted to talk about, and flood the narrative with was discussing apparent online hate
 In fact, I would argue, it doesn't get 10% of the coverage it deserves. The certainly weren't stating that he was a Muslim / Islamist on the day it happened. Or after, on the bbc. |
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There is only one way to stop this happening.
and its so simple, but there's too much money involved in defending the rights of refugees in this country. We need a massive change from the top. The silent majority will only take so much and be pushed so far before they rise |
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Ali, from Kentish Town in north London, told the court he had plans to target various MPs, including cabinet minister Michael Gove.
He told his trial he was motivated by a desire to seek revenge against MPs who had voted for airstrikes on Syria. |
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ah, so you're switching from lawyers lying to people lying to lawyers.
there's a good chap. Anyway, as predicted by (waves arms) everyone, none of the usuals have bothered questioning the role of christianity in this but instead have gone down the route of "he was probably lying and is still a muslim" and anyway here's some more bad muslims to back up my prejudice. Never change. |
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Describing online racists as the silent majority is the best comedy since I'm Alan Partridge. Incredibly noisy minority in reality.
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I'm not switching anything. If a lawyer tells his client it might help his case to prevent deportation if he says he's Christian, then there's a fair chance he will do that. Become a Christian, or go back to your third world existence. It's not exactly quantum physics.
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Cider is quite right, becoming a Christian is a standard ploy. This part of Birmingham is attractive to Muslim immigrants as there is a large and diverse community. My wife has seen a number of them come to her church saying they want to be Christians. They are welcomed with open arms, helped with their applications and given what they need. As soon as they get their residency papers they disappear and never return to the church, not a single one.
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Foinavon has done it for you. You seem to think that what I'm claiming they are doing is illegal. It isn't, afaik. The fault in the process is that the authorities believe it, or at least refuse to accept that it isn't blatantly cynical, and not genuine. Exactly the same as the blatantly middle aged blokes pretending to be kids. Or rapists pretending to be women.
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There's a distinction you're running away from though.
People lying to lawyers. In fairness, loads of people do it and focussing on one ethnic group is, well you know what it is. We had to baptise our daughter last year and did just what those people did. There are relatively harmless ways to game a system and you'd be thick not to. But when the stakes are higher and your choice is be honest and lose or lie to a lawyer and have a fighting chance? Well, what would you do. Or lawyers themselves lying to and for their clients. Again, if you have the evidence of this then front up. Because, if it is lawyers doing it, then it may not be illegal but it would get them disbarred. You think they'll do that for one more immigrant when there's a hundred more queueing behind them? |
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not a loaded comment PP...but 'you had to baptise your daughter last year' ??
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Porky's wife is Italian so presumably Roman Catholic. My first wife is French so I'm aware of the rigmarole in getting married and the baptism of children in that religion.
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oh...
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What I'm trying to say is that there is an expectation from family and friends that certain ceremonies are performed yet the priest will not do it unless you pay lip service to the religion. Being an atheist I had to state certain terminological inexactitudes in order that everyone be satisfied.
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I focused on one ethnic group, by explicitly confirming that my own Dad did it
Need to get rid of that critical race theory indoctrination Pineapple, it won't be healthy for you long term. |
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Or lawyers themselves lying to and for their clients. Again, if you have the evidence of this then front up. Because, if it is lawyers doing it, then it may not be illegal but it would get them disbarred. Why would there be any evidence? Only way there would be is lawyers admitting doing it. If the only way to get caught for something is to own up to it, then you just don't own up to it. |
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I had to state certain terminological inexactitudes in order that everyone be satisfied.
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The adjective is obtuse. Pineapple seems to agree that people will sign up to a certain religion to achieve some objective, when they do not actually believe in that religion. Alluding a possible fact that he did it himself. Apart from if they are clients of immigration lawyers, fighting off deportation back to their 'war torn' third world country of origin
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cider misunderstands (again).
I'm sure plenty refugees will lie to get away from their hellhole. Claiming they're terrorised christians seems a good plan to me. Applying that to everyone, including this guy with his name meaning something christian, and the evidence of him muttering about christ while stabbing kids, and trying to say "see, the others lied, so he's lying too" is the logic of the ninkompoop. |
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can certainly understand that PP...my first school was C of E on that basis...
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Being an atheist I had to state certain terminological inexactitudes in order that everyone be satisfied.
Why? Just find somebody who isn’t crazy. My mother projected her madness on everyone in the household being superstitious. As a child I couldn’t do much about it, but as an adult I could. |
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Have you ever been married dusty?
She wasn't crazy it was societal, the community she was brought up in. Rural France 50 years ago was and still is rather different from urban Britain today. |
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Married?
No You mean that legal contract that states you promise to always feel a certain way, and the moment you don’t can get punished for it? |
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Or gloats even.
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of all available genders
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This would be a lot less ironic if the whole critical race theory hysteria among a certain ever hysterical and led on fringe wasn't a big grooming and indoctrination job.
As the guy who started the disinformation campaign and critical race theory hysteria even freely admits. What are you talking about? |
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Something I mentioned specifically to you at least two times in the past.
The gloating Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ @realchrisrufo We have successfully frozen their brand—"critical race theory"—into the public conversation and are steadily driving up negative perceptions. We will eventually turn it toxic, as we put all of the various cultural insanities under that brand category. 8:14 PM · Mar 15, 2021 https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1371540368714428416 You can also find additional information on how it all started at e.g. Rufo's wikipedia or https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-inquiry/how-a-conservative-activist-invented-the-conflict-over-critical-race-theory https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/07/christopher-rufo-and-the-critical-race-theory-moral-panic.html Had you never wondered how suddenly a bunch of people who never choose to do any research started being all hysterical about this evil term? |
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It's ironically Trump who gets the entire MAGA movement (and associates) regarding their buzzwords. Though it was a dig at DeSantis and of course ironic because he does, or at least did, choose to do it himself for his own grooming efforts regarding e.g. CRT despite obviously knowing better.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1664307437371809792 |
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It doesn't matter what label you put on it, what terminology is used, what underlies critical race theory exists. Big time. Teaching people that there are the oppressed (non white) and oppressors (white). That the oppressors (white) are guilty by default. That the oppressed (not white) are innocent by default. That anything perceived to be bad that happens to the oppressed is due to them being not white, caused by the oppressors (whites).
So what we have here in the case that the OP is about, those who are steeped in critical race theory, after witnessing an animal hacking toddlers in a park and the identify of the offender can't be hidden, will reach for excuses as the perp is in the 'oppressed' group. Excuses for hacking toddlers in a public kids' playground are in short supply, the options are probably either 'mentally ill' or in this case 'Christian' (ie underlying white ideology). In the linked chat, as PP is a 'believer', he cannot bring himself to admit what a blind man could see, that people can and do fake being a Christian in order to avoid deportation. This is because they are in the 'oppressed' group as he sees them. It is laughable, and tbh I don't care how or what this mindset it is labelled. |
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Though as I also told you in the past, tobermory, I am convinced many of the people who appear groomed actually also know better themselves. They are not dumba and do not think "CRT CRT CRT CRT". They know it's all manufactured BS, but they play along for political and ideological reasons in their own manipulation efforts of people they consider dumb.
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Cider • June 10, 2023 6:59 AM BST
It doesn't matter what label you put on it, what terminology is used, what underlies critical race theory exists. Big time. Teaching people that there are the oppressed (non white) and oppressors (white). That the oppressors (white) are guilty by default. That the oppressed (not white) are innocent by default. That anything perceived to be bad that happens to the oppressed is due to them being not white, caused by the oppressors (whites). So what we have here in the case that the OP is about, those who are steeped in critical race theory, after witnessing an animal hacking toddlers in a park and the identify of the offender can't be hidden, will reach for excuses as the perp is in the 'oppressed' group. Excuses for hacking toddlers in a public kids' playground are in short supply, the options are probably either 'mentally ill' or in this case 'Christian' (ie underlying white ideology). In the linked chat, as PP is a 'believer', he cannot bring himself to admit what a blind man could see, that people can and do fake being a Christian in order to avoid deportation. This is because they are in the 'oppressed' group as he sees them. It is laughable, and tbh I don't care how or what this mindset it is labelled. You do realise the messages are available for people to read and hence fabrications like that are kind of silly. Kind of reminds me of your recent disinformation effort in the GB News thread, though even lazier and sillier. He literally wrote, before you came along with your disregard of terminology and your groomed with buzzword: PorcupineorPineapple • June 9, 2023 5:34 PM BST There's a distinction you're running away from though. People lying to lawyers. In fairness, loads of people do it and focussing on one ethnic group is, well you know what it is. We had to baptise our daughter last year and did just what those people did. There are relatively harmless ways to game a system and you'd be thick not to. But when the stakes are higher and your choice is be honest and lose or lie to a lawyer and have a fighting chance? Well, what would you do. Or lawyers themselves lying to and for their clients. Again, if you have the evidence of this then front up. Because, if it is lawyers doing it, then it may not be illegal but it would get them disbarred. You think they'll do that for one more immigrant when there's a hundred more queueing behind them? |
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And since in your latest post you wrote he "cannot bring" instead of "could not bring" [before your buzzword usage), I guess the following quote also suits to counter your fabrications:
PorcupineorPineapple • June 9, 2023 7:43 PM BST cider misunderstands (again). I'm sure plenty refugees will lie to get away from their hellhole. Claiming they're terrorised christians seems a good plan to me. Applying that to everyone, including this guy with his name meaning something christian, and the evidence of him muttering about christ while stabbing kids, and trying to say "see, the others lied, so he's lying too" is the logic of the ninkompoop. |
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Or lawyers themselves lying to and for their clients. Again, if you have the evidence of this then front up. Because, if it is lawyers doing it, then it may not be illegal but it would get them disbarred. You think they'll do that for one more immigrant when there's a hundred more queueing behind them?
yes I put him in a corner he could not get out of. his first instinct was to infer it wasn't happening, and ask me to put the 'evidence' on here |