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Records tumbling again. Train rails buckling. Europe on fire.

All scientists demonstrating that global warming is a direct result of burning fossil fuels.

Never mind we have serious analysts to keep us right.

I mean who needs scientists when we have extremist Trump supporting bigots to tell us the real truth about global warming on a betting forum?
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Report akabula • July 19, 2022 6:15 PM BST
An Oxford Don LaughLaughLaugh
Guys a clueless gullible numpty.
Report cryoftruth • July 19, 2022 6:18 PM BST
Is that the best you can manage bula.

Come on have another go.

Anyway what is wrong with you? A post not running Scotland down? You are slipping.
Report cryoftruth • July 19, 2022 6:20 PM BST
World Population has Treble COT there is your Problem

So you accept climate change is a product of human activity then. Thanks be. One of the usual crew with a glint of understanding.
Report johnnythebull • July 19, 2022 6:29 PM BST
edy 19 Jul 22 16:58 
Don't be such a defeatist all the time. The cullers might see use in keeping you around as a doormat or something similar. A bit more belief in yourself and your worth please

pragmatic,rather..doormats have been known to trip peeps up so u'd need to be on ur guardWink
Report Timber • July 19, 2022 7:06 PM BST

Jul 19, 2022 -- 6:13PM, casemoney wrote:


World Population has Treble COT there is your Problem , Nothing your Green mob do in the UK will make one Iota of a difference to the Global Problem ,I suggest yee get yerself on a Plane to Beijing with a Large Flag and Block the run way , Take Charlie Thunberg with you , Yee could make a difference , Either that or

Report Timber • July 19, 2022 7:06 PM BST
I'd pay for that case
One way
Report Timber • July 19, 2022 7:07 PM BST
Edy too, I know he's humongous but they could squeeze him in the cargo
Report edy • July 19, 2022 7:11 PM BST
Ur humourous yourself!
Report edy • July 19, 2022 7:12 PM BST
Also....

ur momma!
Report casemoney • July 19, 2022 8:33 PM BST
Shocked
Report Mubey25 • July 19, 2022 9:04 PM BST
The planet's gonna be ruined beyond repair by nuclear war sooner or later so who cares about things that will just plunge more people into poverty?
Report edy • July 19, 2022 9:12 PM BST
No such thing as "beyond repair". What's with all you Negative Nathans?
Report edy • July 19, 2022 9:12 PM BST
Defeatists y'all.
Report EvgenyKissin • July 19, 2022 9:15 PM BST
Just started raining in north London. I saw something in the ES on the way home about storms forecast this week.
Report lfc1971 • July 19, 2022 9:21 PM BST
If all the rivers run into the sea maybe that’s why the sea is rising ?
And yet the sea is not full, not by a long way
Report Mubey25 • July 19, 2022 9:21 PM BST
There will be nothing left once the nukes are launched and with warmongerer Liz Truss looking more and more likely to be PM, it's only a matter of time.
Report lfc1971 • July 19, 2022 9:24 PM BST
Or perhaps there is an asteroid heading this way ?

please hit earth
Report EvgenyKissin • July 19, 2022 9:26 PM BST
Still, on the bright side there's the KG at the weekend and Goodwood/Galway festivals next week.
Report lfc1971 • July 19, 2022 9:31 PM BST
That’s lovely evgeny , don’t look up
Report Gagging • July 19, 2022 9:33 PM BST
Over-population,self-pollution and non-sustainable use of resources are the issues that require urgent counter-measures - but if anyone really wishes to leave a legacy for our children it should be to plan for population numbers [human] that the earth can accomodate.  I suspect this would be much less than the current 7-8 billion. How u get there - persuasion, encouragement [i think India tried offering transistor radios for sterilisation once], more Chinese virus escapes, Putin playing with nuclear toys or AI robots deciding they've had enough of humans - is tricky but necessary. I'm pretty certain banning abortion and continuing to allow Catholicism to promote large families without contraception is not the way, so start by tackling them and sterilising any repeat offenders!
Report EvgenyKissin • July 19, 2022 9:39 PM BST
If that asteroid does hit, lfc, then I hope it's after the Sussex Stakes - would like to see Baaeed go out with a bang!
Report frog1000 • July 19, 2022 10:42 PM BST

Jul 19, 2022 -- 9:33PM, Gagging wrote:


Over-population,self-pollution and non-sustainable use of resources are the issues that require urgent counter-measures - but if anyone really wishes to leave a legacy for our children it should be to plan for population numbers [human] that the earth can accomodate.

Report frog1000 • July 19, 2022 10:43 PM BST
People have been saying this for decades.

99.9% of earth is unpopulated by humans. Plenty of space left.

Humans will adapt to whatever mother nature throws at us.
Report casemoney • July 20, 2022 1:28 AM BST
Catholicism to promote large families without contraception

Would hardly Be large families with it ?

As for Large families I would not be looking at Catholics these days TBH ..
Report lfc1971 • July 20, 2022 2:03 AM BST
Was watching a programme about Vermeer earlier  - he wanted to marry a young catholic woman from the Papenhoek
Or Papists Corner of Delft
Her mother wouldn’t allow him to do so unless he converted to Catholicism - which he duly did

They went on to have fifteen children , eleven of whom survived
And Vermeer still found time to paint producing the famous Girl in the pearl ear ring
Report flat16 • July 20, 2022 5:43 AM BST
More sense in gaggings' paragraph than the virtuous tirades from, Greta ,crisp salesman ,puny prince charlie ,sleepy woke joe ,megs+h etc........all worried about triv' like gender neutral toilets.
Why we literally are sitting on millions of m3 of relatively clean gas and importing gas from Norway and produce >1% ,while the big polluters ,China ,India ,USA ,Germany are burning dirty coal astounds me.
Report cryoftruth • July 20, 2022 7:05 AM BST
expert reaction to hot weather and climate change

A heat-health alert has been issued for parts of the UK this week as the Met Office forecasts high temperatures.



Dr Mark McCarthy, head of the Met Office National Climate Information Centre, said:

“The highest temperatures experienced in the UK tend to occur when our weather is influenced by air masses from continental Europe or North Africa, as it will be at the weekend.  There is already a strongly-embedded warming due to climate change across the continent that is increasing the likelihood of challenging the existing UK temperature record.”



Dr Melissa Lazenby, Lecturer in Climate Change at the University of Sussex, said:

“Heatwaves have increased in intensity, frequency and duration in observations and are predicted to continue on this upward trend in future. This is a result of human induced climate change and the evidence is clear, as we are currently experiencing a heatwave in the UK which has the potential to break the current maximum temperature record later this week. Heatwaves and their associated impacts are going to be something that we need to get used to and make sure we can adapt to now and in the future.”



Dr Radhika Khosla, Associate Professor at the Smith School of Enterprise and Environment, University of Oxford.

“The heat we are seeing this week is quickly becoming the ‘new normal’ for the UK. Responding to rising temperatures, just a few months ago the Met Office even raised the threshold of what counts as a heatwave in some parts of the UK.

“But we must be careful not to downplay the risks of heatwaves, which can be deadly for the vulnerable, elderly and very young, and hamper food supply and human productivity.

“As overall temperatures rise in the UK due to climate change it’s important to adapt to extreme heat with sustainable cooling options that don’t contribute to making the problem worse.”



Dr Laurence Wainwright, Departmental Lecturer at the Smith School of Enterprise and the Environment, University of Oxford, said:

“Heatwave events can have a significant impact on both physical and mental health. Key areas of the brain – especially those responsible for solving complex cognitive tasks – are impaired by heat stress.

“There are significant and positive associations between daily high temperatures and suicide. Roughly speaking, for every 1℃ increase in monthly average temperature, suicide rates increase by 1-2%.

“There is strong evidence that heatwaves exacerbate symptoms in those with underlying mental health conditions. Acute and sub-acute weather events – including heatwaves – have been linked to a rise in the manifestation of depressive symptoms in those with an underlying diagnosis of Major Depressive Disorder. The same is true of anxiety symptoms in those with Generalized Anxiety Disorder.

“There is strong evidence linking extreme heat with aggression, and subsequent rates of violent assault. Various studies have shown a moderate rise in violent assault on hot days. Even just a one or two degree Celsius increase in average monthly temperatures can lead to a 5-10% spike in assaults.

“Further problems are posed by the fact that the effectiveness of key medications used to treat psychiatric illnesses can be reduced by the effects of heat. Some of these drugs increase the risk for heat related mortality, for example antipsychotics, which can suppress thirst.

“But there is reason for hope. Heatwaves, as disruptive as they can be, give us a unique opportunity to study mental health conditions in a novel manner – and in doing so provide a window of opportunity for identifying new methods of treatment and management and better understanding how medications work. They also provide us with a very tangible reminder that the best thing we can do to do help ourselves, and future generations, manage the health impacts of heatwaves, is to act on climate change.”



Dr Vikki Thompson, Climate Scientist at the University of Bristol Cabot Institute for the Environment, said:

“Climate change is making heatwaves hotter and last longer around the world. Scientists have shown that many specific heatwaves are more intense because of human-caused climate change. The climate change signal is even detectable in the number of deaths linked to heatwaves. Here in the UK the hottest day of the year is, on average, nearly 1°C warmer than in the 1970s. Across Britain extended periods of hot weather have doubled in length since the period 1961-1990. Southeast England has seen the greatest changes – with a tripling of warm spells.

“The UK record temperature is 38.7 °C from Cambridge in 2019. Forecasts are suggesting this could be broken in the coming weeks, with record smashing temperatures over 40°C possible, according to some models, but not likely.

“Heatwaves are one of the most deadly natural hazards, in the UK ~3000 deaths were linked to heatwaves in 2021. The health issues related to heat include direct effects, such as heat stroke and cardiovascular failure, and indirect effects including poorer mental health and an increase in accidents such as car crashes and drownings. To keep safe make sure you stay cool, drink plenty of water, and wear suncream. Look out for the more vulnerable such as young children and older people.”



Dr Eunice Lo, a climate scientist at the University of Bristol Cabot Institute for the Environment, said:

“The current hottest UK temperature is 38.7C, recorded at Cambridge Botanic Garden in July 2019. Scientists expect this record to be broken in the future because of climate change, and temperatures this weekend are forecast to come close to this.”

“Heatwaves are becoming more frequent and intense as the globe warms up, so we can expect more and hotter heatwaves in future. Scientists have linked past heatwaves to human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases, which have contributed to climate change. The more greenhouse gases we put into the atmosphere, the more likely it is to have record-breaking temperatures.

“Extreme heat can be dangerous to human health. The UK Health Security Agency estimated that more than 2,000 extra deaths were related to heatwaves in 2020. It is important to stay hydrated, stay indoors or under shade, and check on friends and family during a heatwave, especially children, older people and those who have underlying health conditions. While sunny weather is often much-welcomed, it’s important not to underestimate the health impacts of heat and to take appropriate precautions.”



Prof Hannah Cloke, a natural hazards researcher at the University of Reading, said:

“This current hot spell in the UK is forecast to intensify over the coming days. While there is still some uncertainty in the forecasts for a week from now, the indications are that there is a small chance that we will hit record maximum temperatures in the UK, with highs close to 40 degrees Celsius.

“This is a dangerous level of heat on its own. We should remember that heat is most dangerous when it is persistent over several days, especially for those who cannot escape it or gain respite at night time.

“Extreme cold is currently still the biggest weather killer of people in the UK, but studies have shown that heatwaves will begin to take over as the most dangerous natural hazard in years to come, if climate change continues without radical cuts to greenhouse gases.

“Whatever our future holds, that people are dying of heat or cold in Britain in 2022 is frankly a national disgrace. There is clearly a short-term link with the rising costs of heating or cooling our homes. But there is a much more significant long-term link with poorly designed buildings and infrastructure, that only carefully co-ordinated, far-sighted planning can overcome.

“We have made great strides in forecasting extreme weather and climate conditions in recent years. Now we need the systems in place so that people and governments act on the warnings we can provide, whether three hours, three days, or three decades in advance.”



Prof Richard Allan, Professor of Climate Science, University of Reading, said:

“Heatwaves are caused by weather patterns that produce persistent high pressure, cloud-free conditions and dry continental winds during summer. Climate change is intensifying these heatwaves as greenhouse gas increases raise temperatures and a warmer, more thirsty atmosphere dries out the soil so that more of the sun’s energy is available to heat the ground rather than evaporating water.

“Extreme heat and drought is already affecting western and southern Europe and so when pulses of this hot, arid continental air blow from the south the heat rapidly builds across southern Britain and moves north.”



Prof Nigel Arnell, Department of Meteorology, University of Reading, said:

“The current heatwave has certainly made the headlines. It’s not the first this year, and probably won’t be the last. And we’ll get more next year, and the year after, and so on. Our analysis1 shows that we are highly likely to get more and longer heatwaves in the future due to climate change, for the numbers of heat-health alerts, heat-stress days – days when it is too hot to work – and damaging heat extremes to increase.  Work by colleagues in the Department of Meteorology2 shows that heat-related mortality will increase. Not only does this affect individuals, families and communities, it all puts pressure on our health services and economy.

“We’re not really geared up to deal with more frequent heatwaves, other than through enacting emergency plans, and we can’t really run in crisis mode each and every summer. New building regulations have just come into force to reduce overheating risks in homes, but that will take years to have an impact. We urgently need to improve our existing housing stock to better insulate against both hot and cold weather – and that will help reduce our exposure to rising energy bills too. It’s a win-win, but it’s complicated because lots of different departments, organisations and householders need to be involved: it needs to be given a much higher priority by government than it has now.”

1Arnell, N.W. & Freeman, A. (2021) The impact of climate change on policy-relevant indicators of temperature extremes in the United Kingdom. Climate Resilience and Sustainability doi. 10.1002/cli2.12 https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cli2.12

2Huang, W.T.K., Braithwaite, I., Charlton-Perez, A., Sarran, C. and Sun, T. (2022) Non-Linear Response to Global Climate Change of Temperature-Related Mortality Risk in England and Wales. Environmental Research Letters 17, 034017 https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac50d5



Dr Michael Byrne, Reader in Earth & Environmental Sciences at the University of St Andrews, said:

“The current heatwave is a dangerous reminder of the accelerating impacts of global warming. With London expected to feel like Barcelona by 2050, the UK is braced for more frequent and severe heatwaves over coming years.

“Extreme heat is a severe threat to public health that – as pointed out by the UK Climate Change Committee only last year – the UK is woefully under-prepared to deal with. We urgently need to overhaul UK infrastructure to keep us cool & healthy in a rapidly warming world.”



Dr Friederike Otto, Senior Lecturer in Climate Science, The Grantham Institute for Climate Change, Imperial College London, said:

“When it comes to summer heat, climate change is a complete game changer and has already turned what would once have called exceptional heat into very frequent summer conditions. Every heatwave we experience today has been made hotter because of the fossil fuels we have burned over the last decades in particular.

“This is no reason to cheer, heatwaves are by far the deadliest extremes in Europe. In 2020, in the UK alone more than 2500 people died because of hot days – and those were less hot and less frequent than what we are already seeing this year.”
Report cryoftruth • July 20, 2022 7:06 AM BST
And we have our global warming denial monkeys burying their heads in a betting forum.

Splendid.
Report cryoftruth • July 20, 2022 7:07 AM BST
The world’s failure to act seriously on cutting greenhouse gas emissions means meeting its 1.5°C climate change goal is implausible, according to two scientists calling for more honesty about the path Earth is headed for.

In a review of global action on climate change, including pledges at last year’s COP26 summit, Damon Matthews and Seth Wynes at Concordia University, Canada, said social, political and technological inertia meant the Paris Agreement’s temperature target was likely to be missed.

“It’s a call for honesty and action. Given the direction we are going right now, there is no prospect of coming close to 1.5°C,” says Matthews. Global emissions need to fall 43 per cent by 2030 to have a good chance of meeting the target, but have been steadily marching upwards for decades.


The study follows recent research showing there is now an almost 50-50 chance of temporarily exceeding the goal within five years. Other analysis has shown there is a high chance of breaching it long-term, even in the unrealistic event of global emissions stopping overnight.

However, Matthews says while political and corporate efforts to cut emissions are falling short of what is needed, there have been signs of progress. The world is now on course to warm by between 2.5°C and 3°C by the end of the century, he says, not the 4°C to 5°C that was feared around a decade ago. “We have made progress, there are options, but we haven’t really embraced those options at the level [needed],” he says.

Car-free days in cities, revised motorway speed limits and cutting business air travel offer ways to reduce emissions immediately, Matthews and Wynes suggest. Such quick wins will need to be accompanied by major changes such as decarbonising energy grids and widespread adoption of electric cars and heat pumps, alongside behaviour changes including dietary shifts, they add.
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 7:39 AM BST
Cryer quoting more paid shills LMFAOLaugh
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 7:41 AM BST
I wonder if any of these shills ever go to Beijing and opine to the Chinese?
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 7:42 AM BST
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https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/

Nothing any of these shills has projected has EVER come true
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 7:46 AM BST
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LaughLaughLaugh
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 7:47 AM BST
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LaughLaughLaughLaugh

THE END IS NIGH
Report edy • July 20, 2022 9:27 AM BST

Jul 20, 2022 -- 7:41AM, Timber wrote:


I wonder if any of these shills ever go to Beijing and opine to the Chinese?


China is building renewable energy capacity at warp speed.

Report edy • July 20, 2022 9:28 AM BST
Them sheeple like Timber just never do the slightest bit of research.
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 9:34 AM BST

Jul 20, 2022 -- 9:27AM, edy wrote:


Jul 20, 2022 -- 7:41AM, Timber wrote:I wonder if any of these shills ever go to Beijing and opine to the Chinese?China is building renewable energy capacity at warp speed.


LaughLaughLaugh

Report edy • July 20, 2022 9:40 AM BST
What do you find so funny, honey?
Report Johnny The Guesser • July 20, 2022 9:53 AM BST
What is it with the climate change deniers ?  Is it :-

a) Nothing is happening - there is zero 'man made' global warming ?

b) There is some man made global warming but not on the scale calculated by the scientists and not enough to worry about ?

c) I just don't care , I'll be long gone and I'm not prepared to make lifestyle changes or incur costs doing anything about it ?
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 9:55 AM BST
climate change - the most nebulous phrase ever
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 9:57 AM BST
Imagine the arrogance of thinking humans can have an effect on a 5,500,000,000 year old rock
Report Johnny The Guesser • July 20, 2022 9:59 AM BST
So you're an a) then - Is that correct ?
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:00 AM BST
It's generally called physics, not arrogance.
Report northanlite • July 20, 2022 10:00 AM BST
i don't meet many in the a category a these days.
quite a few b's and i suspect there are more c's
than would ever admit it.
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:03 AM BST
Who is it meant to be arrogant towards anyway? The Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:03 AM BST
Spoiler: Show
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not real.
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:10 AM BST
Why do they keep getting it wrong then...if its science??

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https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:10 AM BST
Just show one prediction that has materialised
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:11 AM BST
Why is Al Gore so rich?
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:13 AM BST
Surely Prince Charles is getting the best advice
Why is he always wrong?
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:14 AM BST
Why do scientists only get funded if they agree with the people who are funding them?
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:15 AM BST
Why is any scientist who doesn't agree treated like a pariah
Why are there no debates ?
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:17 AM BST
Same with covid, only the arse licking sycophants are allowed to opine in public
Everybody else is banished
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:18 AM BST

Jul 20, 2022 -- 10:10AM, Timber wrote:


Just show one prediction that has materialised


https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/05/ipcc_90_92_assessments_far_full_report.pdf

it shows a sea level rise of about 10 to 15 cm for the various scenarios from 1990 to 2020. We actually got that in satellite measurements.

Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:19 AM BST
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Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:20 AM BST
Is this the same Guardian that has been reporting about the heat in the last week??LaughLaughLaugh
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:20 AM BST
oh damn it's something not on your site and you will have to think for yourself now to evaluate the information.

I apologise in advance for causing you so much headache.
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:21 AM BST
Jog on girtha, nobody wants to listen to your shilling
Report saddo • July 20, 2022 10:23 AM BST
Is edy retired or on the pan crack?
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:24 AM BST

Jul 20, 2022 -- 10:21AM, Timber wrote:


Jog on girtha, nobody wants to listen to your shilling


Conceding that thinking for yourself is too much trouble and far too hard I see.

Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:25 AM BST

Jul 20, 2022 -- 10:23AM, saddo wrote:


Is edy retired or on the pan crack?


He gets paid to troll all day, everyday

threepence per hour

Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:25 AM BST
Oh that is a great topic!

Who pays me?
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:26 AM BST
Show me your greatest critical thinking!
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:28 AM BST
Why don't you get a proper job ffs & stop leeching
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:28 AM BST
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:29 AM BST
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https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/390729-theres-no-need-to-panic-about-the-rising-sea-level/
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:29 AM BST

Jul 20, 2022 -- 10:28AM, Timber wrote:


Why don't you get a proper job ffs & stop leeching


More conceding that critical thinking just isn't for you. Sad.

Report johnnythebull • July 20, 2022 10:29 AM BST
threepence per hour

thought they were meant to be clamping down on egregious wage rises?!
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:31 AM BST

Jul 20, 2022 -- 10:29AM, johnnythebull wrote:


threepence per hourthought they were meant to be clamping down on egregious wage rises?!


Grin

Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:36 AM BST
C'mon Timber, use for your critical thinking for the first time ever: Who pays me?
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:36 AM BST
If you start such things, you gotta be man enough to elaborate.
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:37 AM BST
honk honk Coco
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:37 AM BST
Oh wait.....you and man enough. Laugh
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 10:37 AM BST
get a life ffs
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:37 AM BST
The guy who lost a bet that he never honoured and is chicken scared of for life to back up his decertification beliefs.
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:43 AM BST
Why do super alphas like you not honour bets, Timber?
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:44 AM BST
Of course it did appear like you honoured it, but turned out you were simply having a multi months mental breakdown and eventually came back.
Report edy • July 20, 2022 10:53 AM BST
....and he's coincidentally gotten busy...what a shame.
Report saddo • July 20, 2022 11:05 AM BST
I'm surprised you're not busy edy, must be a lot of jobs shifting coal at the moment.
Report edy • July 20, 2022 11:08 AM BST
Why would I want to replace my current means of financing myself with digging up coal?
Report edy • July 20, 2022 11:09 AM BST
It's all dirty, I wouldn't be able to make fun of Timber during it, physically wrecking...
Report cryoftruth • July 20, 2022 11:10 AM BST
What is it with the climate change deniers ?  Is it :-

a) Nothing is happening - there is zero 'man made' global warming ?

b) There is some man made global warming but not on the scale calculated by the scientists and not enough to worry about ?

c) I just don't care , I'll be long gone and I'm not prepared to make lifestyle changes or incur costs doing anything about it ?

None of the above.

They trawl dark web nut job extremist right wing websites and decide that global warming is a conspiracy and isn’t happening. It’s like the tosh about fake moon landings, Elvis Presley is alive, Trump never lied 50,000 times and had the election stolen, that Vlad is not too bad, the Black Lives Don’t Matter, and giving every citizen on the planet a machine gun would make us all safer,  and all the other extremist utter bilge they spout.
Report saddo • July 20, 2022 11:11 AM BST
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Report edy • July 20, 2022 11:11 AM BST
They also majorily believe that the Holocaust is the biggest lie ever.
Report Charlie • July 20, 2022 11:14 AM BST
Timber • July 20, 2022 10:28 AM BST
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html

Timber • July 20, 2022 10:29 AM BST
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/390729-theres-no-need-to-panic-about-the-rising-sea-level/


No surprise that the biggest plank on here links to two completely debunked pseudo-scientists.


The Spectator runs false sea-level claims on its cover
Fraser Nelson makes the biggest blunder of his career by putting Nils-Axel Mörner's, a serial promoter of nonsense, in his magazine
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/dec/02/spectator-sea-level-claims


Not the IPCC (“NIPCC”) Report
Much in the spirit of the Fraser Institute’s damp squib we reported on last year, S. Fred Singer and his merry band of contrarian luminaries (financed by the notorious “Heartland Institute” we’ve commented on previously) served up a similarly dishonest ‘assessment’ of the science of climate change earlier this year in the form of what they call the “NIPCC” report (the “N” presumably standing for ‘not the’ or ‘nonsense’).
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/11/not-the-ipcc-nipcc-report/


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Report Timber • July 20, 2022 12:00 PM BST

Jul 20, 2022 -- 11:14AM, Charlie wrote:


Timber • July 20, 2022 10:28 AM BSThttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/... • July 20, 2022 10:29 AM BSThttps://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/390729-theres-no-need-to-p... surprise that the biggest plank on here links to two completely debunked pseudo-scientists.The Spectator runs false sea-level claims on its coverFraser Nelson makes the biggest blunder of his career by putting Nils-Axel Mörner's, a serial promoter of nonsense, in his magazinehttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/dec/02/sp... the IPCC (“NIPCC”) ReportMuch in the spirit of the Fraser Institute’s damp squib we reported on last year, S. Fred Singer and his merry band of contrarian luminaries (financed by the notorious “Heartland Institute” we’ve commented on previously) served up a similarly dishonest ‘assessment’ of the science of climate change earlier this year in the form of what they call the “NIPCC” report (the “N” presumably standing for ‘not the’ or ‘nonsense’). https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/11/not-the-ipcc-nipcc-report/.


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Report Timber • July 20, 2022 12:03 PM BST
Edy, Charlie & Crybaby bunting happy to send millions to their deaths & make trillionaires even richer
WAlOC
Report edy • July 20, 2022 12:04 PM BST
But the climate scientists are the hysterical alarmists, eh?
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 12:04 PM BST
Get a life ffs
Report edy • July 20, 2022 12:05 PM BST
You can get rid of me posting on here simply by agreeing to the decertification bet and decertification happening.
Report edy • July 20, 2022 12:05 PM BST
Shame you are mightily scared of standing for your own beliefs beyond just spouting about them.
Report edy • July 20, 2022 12:07 PM BST
Or are you in, Superalpha totally not soy boy?
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 12:15 PM BST
Energy went up 50% recently & another 50 % is going to happen in October

Do you really think that isn't going to affect old people on a fixed income?
Report edy • July 20, 2022 12:17 PM BST
wait, didn't you tell the forum recently it went up 600%?
Report edy • July 20, 2022 12:19 PM BST
Timber • July 1, 2022 10:16 AM BST
Electricity rates are up about 6x in Germany.

Must be Brexit


This one.
Report flat16 • July 20, 2022 12:52 PM BST
Very interesting piece by puny prince charlie ,is he aware that all of us do not each have a Duchy ,numerous palaces and a very rich Mum ,some of us have to work and have incomes WAC
Report Timber • July 20, 2022 1:02 PM BST

Jul 20, 2022 -- 12:17PM, edy wrote:


wait, didn't you tell the forum recently it went up 600%?


I was talking about the UK

Report edy • July 20, 2022 1:11 PM BST
I see. Of course increased heating and energy prices are going to affect people in the country with one of the worst insulations around. Unlike you doommonger who sees millions of dead people however (in addition to your millions of vaccine deaths...this time definitely incoming), I am positive that their families/support nets and Rishi/Penny will see to British people not dying in their homes because of Putin's war on wiping the Ukraine off the face of the earth.
Report edy • July 20, 2022 1:21 PM BST
Thought you took delight from the thought of people freezing anyway.

Timber • July 20, 2022 12:17 PM BST
It's going to be hilarious, Germans huddling around a wood burner in the winterLaughLaughLaugh


So not sure why you suddenly pretend to be all concerned.
Report Foinavon • July 20, 2022 3:03 PM BST
OMG it's pleasantly cool today just when I was thinking of getting an air-con unit for the bedroom. Has climate change had a day off? It's a bit fickle, isn't it? Just like the wind which blew the hot air from the Sahara for a couple of days. Have we all been had yet again?
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